RSTDRIDER Posted June 16, 2008 #1 Posted June 16, 2008 I was just on the Star page and saw the new 1649cc fuel injected V-4. Does anybody think these new powerplants will find there way in next years RSTD and Ventures?
emack Posted June 16, 2008 #2 Posted June 16, 2008 I was at the Stealership over the weekend and the service manager was touting the V-max.. he also mentioned hope for the V-max engine to be in the 2010 model year Ventures & RSTD. I wonder what the MSRP is going to be though... they're not exactly giving the V-max away at $17.9K
yamahamer Posted June 16, 2008 #3 Posted June 16, 2008 MY DEALER TOLD ME THAT THE VENTURE AND TOUR DELUXE WERE NOT AVALABLE FOR 2009.
Guest JGorom Posted June 16, 2008 #4 Posted June 16, 2008 I was just on the Star page and saw the new 1649cc fuel injected V-4. Does anybody think these new powerplants will find there way in next years RSTD and Ventures? My hope is that they would...and it also makes sense that they would. After all, Yamaha has some $ tied up in the new VMax powerplant...and one way to get that investment back is to use it in other models to improve their return on investment. The Venture is a great touring motorcycle in need of a few tweaks here and there. If I had a vote on the matter I would vote "yes."
Ranger175c Posted June 16, 2008 #5 Posted June 16, 2008 Pure speculation... but... http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modeloverview/ls/2009/model_overview.aspx this website does not show a Venture or RSTD option available for 2009
KiteSquid Posted June 16, 2008 #6 Posted June 16, 2008 I would bet that they will hold off to the 2010 model year as that is when the new EPA Tier 2 emissions regulations come into effect. The current bike does not pass, but a bike with EFI would!!!!!!
RSTDRIDER Posted June 25, 2008 Author #7 Posted June 25, 2008 I looked up the 2009 line-up and no venture or rstd. I bet they are going to be back in 2010 with the new V-4. That works out perfect because my 2007 will be wore out by then!!
SilvrT Posted June 25, 2008 #8 Posted June 25, 2008 There probably will be no 2009 model so that they can purge any remaining 2008's from production well in advance, thus making a new, 2010 model more attractive and sellable at a higher price tag... (just a wild guess here)
RSTDRIDER Posted June 25, 2008 Author #9 Posted June 25, 2008 Of course a higher price! Would you expect anything less? I just hope they will fix some of the problems we have now before creating a whole new batch!
Christo Posted June 26, 2008 #10 Posted June 26, 2008 There probably will be no 2009 model so that they can purge any remaining 2008's from production well in advance, thus making a new, 2010 model more attractive and sellable at a higher price tag... (just a wild guess here) Ok, so why not make it an anniversary model? With all the new features needed etc, 2009 is the 10 year anniversary of the RSV!? Yamaha is missing out on a good marketing thang!
CrazyHorse Posted June 26, 2008 #11 Posted June 26, 2008 My prediction is its not going to look like a 2nd Gen. Maybe a hybrid along the lines of a Victory Vision or possibly Goldwing like.
Freebird Posted June 26, 2008 #12 Posted June 26, 2008 I think that you may be right but I hope not. If that is the case, then the only NEW bike that will really appeal to me is the Harley Ultra. I think it would be music to the ears of our first gen owners though who never liked the cruiser styling of the RSV. By the way, I was driving along Route 33 just east of Weston, WV today and there was a Vision riding in the lane beside me. First time I had actually seen one expect in pictures. I really wasn't sure from looking at the pictures whether or not I liked the style. I can pretty much say for sure now that I honestly don't. Just not a bike for me.
SilvrT Posted June 26, 2008 #13 Posted June 26, 2008 By the way, I was driving along Route 33 just east of Weston, WV today and there was a Vision riding in the lane beside me. First time I had actually seen one expect in pictures. I really wasn't sure from looking at the pictures whether or not I liked the style. I can pretty much say for sure now that I honestly don't. Just not a bike for me. Saw one making a left at an intersection about 3 weeks ago... 2 weekends ago I was at a bike shop that sells them...there were 2 outside that folks owned and one on display inside... now that I've had my "close-up" .... nope!... not for me brother!
emack Posted June 26, 2008 #14 Posted June 26, 2008 .. not to hi jack the thread or anything... but I sat on Vision a couple weeks ago,.. and even though I don't care for the looks it was nice once perched on top. It's not as heavy as it looks, all the buttons, brake and clutch reservoirs were low profile, fairing way up front giving the bike a spacious feel. ... I was impressed. Until I opened the side bag(s)... room enough in there for a box of tissues.. that's about it. The other side bag wouldn't open... the plastics are cheap on that thing.. like Kawasaki Voyager cheap. I'd buy it for $13K but for $22K?... forgetaboutit. HD is a better value in my humble and useless opinion.
yamahamer Posted June 26, 2008 #15 Posted June 26, 2008 My prediction is its not going to look like a 2nd Gen. Maybe a hybrid along the lines of a Victory Vision or possibly Goldwing like. THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH ON THE V-MAX SOO HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T MESS WITH THE STYLE JUST ALL THE LITTLE THINGS THAT NEED TO CHANGE.
PBJ Posted June 26, 2008 #16 Posted June 26, 2008 THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH ON THE V-MAX SOO HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T MESS WITH THE STYLE JUST ALL THE LITTLE THINGS THAT NEED TO CHANGE. I have to agree besides Yamaha already created the replacement for the 1st gen and thats the FJR 1300. tha was the second reason I bought my 85 so many similar styling que's
CrazyHorse Posted June 26, 2008 #17 Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) I'm kinda of mixed on the Vision at first I didn't like it. Now I saw one driving it didnt look too bad its kinda of a meld of Goldwing and classic look. I'm kinda of changing my mind about it. I never sat on one or drove one so I dont know about its quality. The FJR is competing against ST1300 and Kawi Concours in sport touring class smaller version of the touring class. I like the looks of the FJR but I prefer the V4 motor of 1st and 2nd Gen's. The FJR needs to be bigger and more passenger friendly and need a radio if I went a got a sport tourer it would probably be a Concours instead of the FJR. Edited June 26, 2008 by CrazyHorse
GeorgeS Posted June 26, 2008 #18 Posted June 26, 2008 Squeez pointed out to me, the Torque rateing on this new V-Max engine. I haven't found a posted HP rateing as yet. However the Torque is far above a Hyabusa. This is why Squeez, wants one. ( You know, the German Autoban, etc. etc. etc. ) The new Max, will weigh about 167 lb. more then a Hyabusa. BUT,----With the added Torque and HP, this thing will have Unbelievable Performance. I'm waiting to see what the "Zero -to- 60 MPH " times on a drag strip will be. I call my 99 Hyabusa, a " Death Machine " ( 2.6 sec 0-60 times) This new V-Max, will be the " Devils, Death Machine " ( zero to 60 time ????? ) Anybody heard what it is ?? This is a Drag Strip Machine !!! Oaklahoma Highway Patrol: Might be of Interest: http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/05/25/suzuki-hyabusa-police-interceptor/
Squeeze Posted June 26, 2008 #19 Posted June 26, 2008 It's 197 hp and 129+ ftlbs Torque or 202 PS/ 174 Nm here's the VMAX Microsite http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/msite/micro_v1.aspx I wanted one, badly. But when i saw the Specs, i was sort of disappointed in regard to the Price called for. But eventually, i will be in Swiss on Saturday to take a close Look at the Bike. Might be hard to justify that much of Money, but on the other Hand, Life is short... No Times heard, yet. Rumours from the Test Riders say something like mid Niners. This Beast is build for the Drag Strip, but seem to corner very well.
Guest IndyElmo2006 Posted June 27, 2008 #20 Posted June 27, 2008 Workin for a dealership and no info till Sept. on the new 2009s .... Its hard to say if there will be any Ventures or RSTD .... There also isnt any Raider listed But im 100% sure there will be as its been a good seller ....
emack Posted June 28, 2008 #21 Posted June 28, 2008 Write up of the 2009 v-max in the August Cycle World. Cover photo of it makes the Suzuki B King look normal.
Steve S Posted June 28, 2008 #22 Posted June 28, 2008 I read that the take off speed of the new V-Max was 0 to DEAD in 3.7 seconds. Man, I wanna try one REALLLL bad. :bang head:
GeorgeS Posted June 28, 2008 #23 Posted June 28, 2008 Find a good used Busa, for about 4 to 7 K, costs less, and will kill you just as fast !!!
Squeeze Posted June 28, 2008 #24 Posted June 28, 2008 I agree with George, for such a Purpose, a Hayabusa is as right enough as the the new Vmax. On the other Hand, when riding with intend to Die, why not do it with some extra Class ??
emack Posted June 28, 2008 #25 Posted June 28, 2008 Motorcycles don't kill people,.. people kill people... or something like that. I'd take the busa over the v-max any day... at least you can set a busa up for touring. And I think it looks better too.
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