mother Posted June 10, 2008 #1 Posted June 10, 2008 on our way down to Dons Maintenance day, my friends rear Metzeler tire rubber tread separated from the inner plys. this tire was only 8 months old and had lots of tread left on it. he was very fortunate that it did not let go out on the highway. we had stopped in Fredonia, New York on friday night. when we got up Saturday morning, we pulled out of the hotel parking lot, drove down the road and he had to pull over as there was a big lump of bulging rubber hanging out the left side of the rear tire and the rear end of the bike was wagging left and right. we found a bike repair place, had his bike trailered to the repair shop, had a new Dunlop installed and then proceeded fashionably late down to Maintenance Day.
Brake Pad Posted June 10, 2008 #2 Posted June 10, 2008 Ha Mother, I had my Metzler, rear tire chuck off, on the turnpike last weekend, we rode it 120 more, pulling our trailer, the tread hole was about the size of a tennis ball. I had 7,000 miles on it, and just replaced it with another Metzler.
wizard Posted June 10, 2008 #3 Posted June 10, 2008 Next time, have him try a BF Goodrich TA Radial. Its a much safer tire. Its a high performance tire rated at over 1000 lbs at 35 psi!
BradT Posted June 10, 2008 #4 Posted June 10, 2008 fashionably late down to Maintenance Day. WOW never knew there was a real problem, just figured it was normal. Brad
BJB Posted June 10, 2008 #5 Posted June 10, 2008 Mother, Was your friends bike a 1st gen or 2nd gen or something else? Reason asked is most Metzler complaints are from 2nd gen owners. Thanks.
GeorgeS Posted June 10, 2008 #6 Posted June 10, 2008 Used to use Nothing but Metz on my BMW back in the 80's never had a problem, what have they done to their quality control ??
gibvel Posted June 10, 2008 #7 Posted June 10, 2008 Big question: What pressure was he running? Every time this has happened before Metzler claims that the tires were run under inflated. I believe, but am not sure, that Metzler says to run the max sidewall pressure.
gibvel Posted June 10, 2008 #8 Posted June 10, 2008 Mother, Was your friends bike a 1st gen or 2nd gen or something else? Reason asked is most Metzler complaints are from 2nd gen owners. Thanks. No, actually, I've seen just as many reports of Metzlers blowing chunks on 1st gens. as I have on 2nd. gens. At least on this site.
Squidley Posted June 10, 2008 #9 Posted June 10, 2008 I'm going to come right out and be cantankerous here, This is the 5th person I have met personally or is a friend of mine that has had problems with Metzler 880's I know many of you run them, and that is your choice, but the tires are JUNK! Your taking your life in your hands when you run them, I know what coming off a bike at 75 mph feels like because of rear tire failure. Metzler should be hung out to dry with these POS tires....end rant!
Mariner Fan Posted June 10, 2008 #10 Posted June 10, 2008 Mother, Was your friends bike a 1st gen or 2nd gen or something else? Reason asked is most Metzler complaints are from 2nd gen owners. Thanks. I believe his friend was riding a Harley Road Glide. They rode down together.
mother Posted June 10, 2008 Author #11 Posted June 10, 2008 his rear tire pressure was 48 psi when removed from the bike. my rear Metzeler let go last summer with only 2000 miles on it, exactly the same way my buddies let go. it was on my first gen. if you value your life, dont run with these tires.
BoomerCPO Posted June 10, 2008 #12 Posted June 10, 2008 Seem to me that for what they charge for these tires them Metzeler folks need to get slapped with a lawsuit or two to wake em up a bit! There is NO excuse to be putting out a shoddy product on something as critical as a MC tire. And we wonder why guys are going over to the dark side?
Tom Posted June 10, 2008 #13 Posted June 10, 2008 Big question: What pressure was he running? Every time this has happened before Metzler claims that the tires were run under inflated. I believe, but am not sure, that Metzler says to run the max sidewall pressure. I ran max pressure in mine when I had them and it lasted 1700 miles before it started chunking rubber..I know some run them on this site and no trouble but there is a pattern of failures that says loudly that there IS a problem. For those who continue to run them PLEASE watch them close,the first thing you will notice is small cracks then quickly start chunking. be Safe,Tom
gibvel Posted June 10, 2008 #14 Posted June 10, 2008 his rear tire pressure was 48 psi when removed from the bike. my rear Metzeler let go last summer with only 2000 miles on it, exactly the same way my buddies let go. it was on my first gen. if you value your life, dont run with these tires. Got a friend here at work that got an 880 last year and I keep an eye on it every day!! We'll see what happens and if I can catch it before it does.
wolfman1 Posted June 10, 2008 #15 Posted June 10, 2008 Everyone who's had a problem needs to contact the Federal Consumer Protection Division. They're the ones who can force Metzler to do something. The more complaints, the faster metzler will be forced to do something. Steve
Bill Feehan Posted June 10, 2008 #16 Posted June 10, 2008 Has anyone used these tires on a first Gen , and what were the results. Bill
Squeeze Posted June 10, 2008 #17 Posted June 10, 2008 Has anyone used these tires on a first Gen , and what were the results. Bill I use have to use the ME 880's on my '93 VR by our Law here. The're not bad. Not as sticky as my Michelin Pilot Road2 on the Vmax but so far so good. If i would be free to choose, i'd probably use the Michelins Commanders.
Albino Rhino Posted June 10, 2008 #18 Posted June 10, 2008 I'm going to come right out and be cantankerous here, This is the 5th person I have met personally or is a friend of mine that has had problems with Metzler 880's I know many of you run them, and that is your choice, but the tires are JUNK! Your taking your life in your hands when you run them, I know what coming off a bike at 75 mph feels like because of rear tire failure. Metzler should be hung out to dry with these POS tires....end rant! Curious: How many of these tire failures have been reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration?
zagger Posted June 11, 2008 #19 Posted June 11, 2008 I've got 880's on two bikes without any problems. My slightly modified '83 has only got 3k or 4k miles with them. My Honda Sabre has 12k. Who knows - but I have not seen any problems. Seems ok to me. zag
Squidley Posted June 11, 2008 #20 Posted June 11, 2008 Curious: How many of these tire failures have been reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration? Thats a good question, probably not many folks would even know to report it to the proper authorities. My biggest problem is not nessecarily the people who run them unknowingly, but the damage they could impose say in a group ride if someones tire went out and cause a pile up.
1BigDog Posted June 11, 2008 #21 Posted June 11, 2008 Two of my three sets of Metz delaminated. Mets customer service could care less. Ill stick with the Avons now.
Steve S Posted June 11, 2008 #22 Posted June 11, 2008 Is anyone tracking where these tires are made?? Yesterday my riding buddy noticed the rear tire on his Roadstar had seperated. It had 8K miles and was due to be replaced, but he went on a short ride and the tread seperated by the time he got back home. He went out last night to check it out, and sure enough, the tire was made in BRAZIL! Is there a problem with the tires made in Brazil? We both have ridden a lot of miles on Metzlers without a problem, but this is making a Bridgestone look real good.
bmxndad Posted June 11, 2008 #23 Posted June 11, 2008 I would not buy a Metzeler tire, irregardless of where it was manufactured. If I had some on my bike now, i would take them off ASAP. Its not worth the risk!!
flb_78 Posted June 11, 2008 #24 Posted June 11, 2008 My last motorcycle tire was a Metzler, made in the Fatherland. I had no problems with it, I even had a plug in it. I ran it at 50psi.
stvmaier Posted June 11, 2008 #25 Posted June 11, 2008 Wow!! I find it amazing that with all the known problems...people DEFEND this tire!! You know, the odds are, 5 out of 6 times you'll still be alive after playing Russian roulette....Doesn't make sense to me.. I don't wanna play....
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