Maritimer Posted June 9, 2008 #1 Posted June 9, 2008 Any one heard or is using this technology? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GScWPb8qcng&NR=1]YouTube - Crazy motorcycle tires[/ame] Looks pretty good stuff.
Sunman Posted June 9, 2008 #2 Posted June 9, 2008 Never heard of it, but it looks to be a good product. I wonder if it affects balance, and if it hardens, does it affect handling?
KeithR Posted June 9, 2008 #3 Posted June 9, 2008 Looks interesting but it don't appear to be a item you could install yourself. This is quoted from the Rhino site RHINO TIRE safety technology can be applied to any type and size of tire. Bikes, motorcycles, cars, pickups or commercial trucks. It works on new and used tires with the same result. To make your tires Rhino-protected, you need to bring your car to one of our facilities, where our qualified technicians will apply a special adhesive material inside the tire. The whole process takes approximately 20 minutes. The unique Rhino adhesive polymer will stick to the inner surface of the tire, and in case a sharp object penetrates, it will automatically seal out any possibility of air leakage. Tests of this newly developed leak-proof Rhino material show consistently stable physical characteristics, providing extended sealant properties even beyond the life of the tire. Applying this technology will not affect the balance of the tire. Keith
KiteSquid Posted June 10, 2008 #4 Posted June 10, 2008 Rhino tires web site is HERE It looks like they will apply the goo an ship you a tire too....
Sunman Posted April 2, 2009 #5 Posted April 2, 2009 I am curious if any of our members have used these tires? Or more accurately this product. The rhino tire treatment appears to be available on many different makes and sizes of tires. The video and comments are impressive, much more reliable than the ride on, or slime type liquid goop that you add to regular tires. If anyone has used or is using this product, let me know what you think. This is not a do it yourself at home type treatment, this is a permanent bonded protection. I am about due for new tires, so I will have to find a distributor in Ontario that carries or can get them, and figure if the price difference will be viable. Thanks in advance!
Eck Posted April 2, 2009 #6 Posted April 2, 2009 wonder what effect it has on the aluminum wheels.......... or any type rim for that matter..
KiteSquid Posted April 3, 2009 #7 Posted April 3, 2009 in the video they state that the tire is baked at 245F... that cant be too good for a tire.
Eck Posted April 3, 2009 #8 Posted April 3, 2009 in the video they state that the tire is baked at 245F... that cant be too good for a tire It also states: The whole process takes approximately 20 minutes. They surely cant remove the tires and reinstall them in that amont of time... Yamaha would flip out on thier hourley rate prices if they could......
SaltyDawg Posted April 3, 2009 #9 Posted April 3, 2009 My question is: Is it cost prohibitive? The way I go through tires to spend a lot to save it from a possible puncture isn't worth it.
Sunman Posted April 3, 2009 #10 Posted April 3, 2009 wonder what effect it has on the aluminum wheels.......... or any type rim for that matter.. I don't think it would have any effect on rims at all. The product is NOT in liquid form like slime, or ride on. It is BAKED to the inside of the tire, so would not contact the rim at any time.
Sunman Posted April 3, 2009 #11 Posted April 3, 2009 in the video they state that the tire is baked at 245F... that cant be too good for a tire. How do you think the tire is made in the first place? Whittled out of a solid piece of rubber? Tires are molten rubber, at a higher temp than 245 F, undergoing enormous pressure during manufacturing as well. The baking process for Rhino Tires seems to be short just to cure the compound to the tire. But my question was more if anyone here had actually USED this product, simply looking for any recommendations, or cautions. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If5t783NZFY]YouTube - How a tire is made[/ame]
Eck Posted April 3, 2009 #12 Posted April 3, 2009 I don't think it would have any effect on rims at all. The product is NOT in liquid form like slime, or ride on. It is BAKED to the inside of the tire, so would not contact the rim at any time. Well If I may, I tend to disagree bit in that this "gel" must remain somewhat in a liquid state, to be able to "flow" into a puncture. If it was baked on the inside of the tire where it is a completely dried surface, then it would not be pliable and would surely "crack" especially with the flexing of the side walls. I know they say they BAKE it onto the inside of the tire, and i am sure they clean the inside tire surface chemically to remove any powder, oils or FOD. I would then assume that must be so a thin thin layer of the material can "properly bond" to the inside rubber surface, however the remaining (bulk) of the material inside the tire needs to remain pliable to be able to flow into a very small hole caused by a screw or nail. Being (in my opinion) the remaining bulk of the material is still pliable, when ever the bike is parked for a duration of time the material may flow to the bottom side of the tire and as it fills up per say, it may touch the inside of the rim causing corrosion of some type like that green tire goop junk does to aluminum Just my opinion now..
Sunman Posted April 3, 2009 #13 Posted April 3, 2009 Well If I may, I tend to disagree bit in that this "gel" must remain somewhat in a liquid state, to be able to "flow" into a puncture. If it was baked on the inside of the tire where it is a completely dried surface, then it would not be pliable and would surely "crack" especially with the flexing of the side walls. I know they say they BAKE it onto the inside of the tire, and i am sure they clean the inside tire surface chemically to remove any powder, oils or FOD. I would then assume that must be so a thin thin layer of the material can "properly bond" to the inside rubber surface, however the remaining (bulk) of the material inside the tire needs to remain pliable to be able to flow into a very small hole caused by a screw or nail. Being (in my opinion) the remaining bulk of the material is still pliable, when ever the bike is parked for a duration of time the material may flow to the bottom side of the tire and as it fills up per say, it may touch the inside of the rim causing corrosion of some type like that green tire goop junk does to aluminum Just my opinion now.. If you watch the video, and read about the process, it is an adhesive that bonds to the tire, becoming part of the tire. That is why you can't simply add it via the valve stem like slime or ride on. This product remains flexible, but is not in liquid form once bonded. It is sprayed to the inside of the tire, then baked. It does not flow after the process is complete. That is why you can order the tires, then have them shipped. If the product was liquid, you could not do that. They apply the polymer, and once it sets, it will not "flow" Although it does retain it's flexibilty. Without actually touching it, my guess is it has the consistency of very soft rubber, so any punctures would heal it self. But again, I am just wondering if anyone has used this product. The application process, or the physical state of the product is not what I am after, I understand the process from the site, what I am hoping to get HERE is to find out if any of our wonderful members have actually USED the product.
KiteSquid Posted April 4, 2009 #14 Posted April 4, 2009 I have not, but probably will on my next set of tires.
Guest seuadr Posted April 4, 2009 #15 Posted April 4, 2009 Well If I may, I tend to disagree bit in that this "gel" must remain somewhat in a liquid state. remember, glass is technically a liquid and flows as well.. looks interesting to me. AM20 FRONT AV-086 SIZE & RATING: 130/90H-16 BLK 174.95 AM20 FRONT AV026 SIZE & RATING: 90/90H-19 BLK 146.95 AM20 FRONT AV029 SIZE & RATING: 90/90H-21 BLK 148.95 AM21 REAR AV040 SIZE & RATING: MT90H-16 BLK 180.95 AM21 REAR AV046 SIZE & RATING: 230/60H15 BLK 327.95 not real bad prices, considering. Assuming it works as well as shown. i would definitally fork over the cash for it, myself.
KiteSquid Posted April 4, 2009 #16 Posted April 4, 2009 interesting video showing a minivan tire. look at about 2:40 he pushes the coating with his fininger and it gives... Click [ame=http://www.metacafe.com/watch/878773/rhino_tire/]HERE[/ame] to go to Metacafe website where the video is hosted. And anther video is [ame=http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2618070/no_more_flat_tires_technology/]HERE[/ame] with a car.
Sunman Posted April 5, 2009 #17 Posted April 5, 2009 Thanks for that video KS!. I had not seen that one, and I am going to begin my search for a Canadian dealer for those tires. If not, I may have to go visit Bob in NY in my near future. That video answered everything I needed to know. That kind of abuse, would be catastrophic in a normal tire. I would be happy, and would feel it is worth the price, if it helped me stop 1 single nail hole. I think also, the video clearly demonstrates that the product does not "flow" I noticed there was none on the rim when they dismounted the tire. It appears to have the consistency of soft rubber, I think that is why it is able to "heal" itself so quickly. Rhino Tires hopefully will be my next set of skins for the bike. The only thing that I wish they had done in the video, which would be a great selling point, would be to take an accurate tire pressure reading before the runs over the nail board, and again after. If the difference was small enough, that would really sell me. They make run flat tires now, which can run up to 60 MPH with 0 psi in them. So the pressure reading, would really show that no air is getting out. Sonny
Sunman Posted April 14, 2009 #18 Posted April 14, 2009 I really think this whole thing was a colossal waste of time. I have sent numerous emails to the company asking about Canadian distribution, not even 1 reply. I even went so far today to call their NY number, which can't receive calls (meaning someone didn't pay their cell phone bill I think) Absolutely no customer service. I had really high hopes for this product, and was looking forward to reporting on it. Now I think I understand why not even 1 member here had any reviews of it. I don't think anyone could buy them. I am really disappointed. Oh well, guess regular Avon Venoms are in my future.
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