Dragonslayer Posted June 3, 2008 #1 Posted June 3, 2008 I got a new project bike in my driveway to start on. It really isn't mine It belongs to some old friends that I haven't seen in years. These are great people, Matt and Charlotte Flory, of Lilburn, Georgia. Please welcome them and look forward to meeting them soon as new members. We had lost touch several years ago due to moving, changing watering holes, and busy lives, ect..... A mutual friend mentioned to me that they had a Venture that they might consider selling, so I got in touch with them. They told me that they really didn't want to part with the bike because they loved it so much, but wanted to get it back on the road. It had been sitting under cover for several years with a few problems and they didn't know how to go about getting started with repairing it considering it's age and not knowing anyone who could or wanted to work on it for them. As we were talking I told them about my experience with my 87 XVZ1300 and how finding this site and all of you that have helped me have made it possible for me to be able to keep my bike alive in my heart, mind, soul and under my butt as a daily driver. One thing led to another so we came to an agreement that helps both of us out, me helping him get his bike on the road and him helping me get some punch items repaired for a upcoming House closing this month. I can't wait to get started on it and am trying to shoot for the July Georgia M & E for a target date of having him with me at that event riding his rejuvenated VR and meeting some of you. I've told him how great ya'll have been to me and I think he's really looking forward to getting involved with Ventureriders.org.
Squeeze Posted June 3, 2008 #2 Posted June 3, 2008 Nice Bike, but why do you call it "Project" ?? It seems there's some Work to do, but i wouldn't consider this a Project. It'll take some Time, yes, but we're not talking Months to get it back on the Road.
GigaWhiskey Posted June 3, 2008 #3 Posted June 3, 2008 That bike will definitely take some time to clean, that is fer shore.
Dragonslayer Posted June 3, 2008 Author #4 Posted June 3, 2008 Nice Bike, but why do you call it "Project" ?? It seems there's some Work to do, but i wouldn't consider this a Project. It'll take some Time, yes, but we're not talking Months to get it back on the Road. I know but at this stage of life every new task seems like a project. Even getting off the sofa to go to the bathroom sometimes seems like a project.
Dano Posted June 3, 2008 #5 Posted June 3, 2008 Mine was a project, that one needs a carwash!!!! Let us know if you need some help, has it been turned over recently or in the past couple years? If not, I'd be carefull of just stickin a battery in there and cranking it over without an oil change, pulling the plugs and putting a couple squirts of oil in there and then cranking it over by hand a couple of times to get things moving. Good luck!!! Dan
Dragonslayer Posted June 4, 2008 Author #6 Posted June 4, 2008 Mine was a project, that one needs a carwash!!!! Let us know if you need some help, has it been turned over recently or in the past couple years? If not, I'd be carefull of just stickin a battery in there and cranking it over without an oil change, pulling the plugs and putting a couple squirts of oil in there and then cranking it over by hand a couple of times to get things moving. Good luck!!! DanGood advice, thanks for reminding me or I might have done just that. Hasn't been turned over for three years but was running when parked with shifter linkage problem and fork tube compression problem due to blown out anti-dive solenoid. Then there is the cobwebs, pine straw and oxidation.
Dano Posted June 4, 2008 #7 Posted June 4, 2008 Don't forget the mouse nest you're gonna find!!! Next door neighbor bought an 87 Grand National, mice had eaten almost every wire under the hood!!!!!
Dragonslayer Posted June 4, 2008 Author #8 Posted June 4, 2008 Don't forget the mouse nest you're gonna find!!! Next door neighbor bought an 87 Grand National, mice had eaten almost every wire under the hood!!!!! Hush your mouth
Dragonslayer Posted June 5, 2008 Author #9 Posted June 5, 2008 Don't forget the mouse nest you're gonna find!!! Next door neighbor bought an 87 Grand National, mice had eaten almost every wire under the hood!!!!! I opened her up and did not find any mices eating wires to pieces!!!!!
GeorgeS Posted June 5, 2008 #10 Posted June 5, 2008 1. Clean All the Electrical Plugs with CRC 2-26 --- ----- And the Switches ---- 2. Clean up All the Ground Connections !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3. Clean out the Gas Tank ----- 4. You know what to do next !!! Good Luck
Dragonslayer Posted June 5, 2008 Author #11 Posted June 5, 2008 1. Clean All the Electrical Plugs with CRC 2-26 --- ----- And the Switches ---- 2. Clean up All the Ground Connections !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3. Clean out the Gas Tank ----- 4. You know what to do next !!! Good Luck George, As usual YOUDAMAN. I've had a good teacher and mentor in you and I'm already right with you with this one, Gas tank has been drained, oil drained, new Odyssey battery, starting to check, clean moisture proof electrical plugs. Monitor system is showing all checks showing warning I understand gas, lights, But I did not expect kick stand (kickstand up and bike on centerstand) battery is new, brakes and water. So I'll be going through those systems as well. Question since Odyssey battery does not have an internal probe, how does the battery monitor system work and why am I showing check battery indicator with fresh battery. Could that be related to cleaning up ground points? Shifter was useless because earlier mechanic said bike fell over in his shop and broke corner of stator cover where shift shaft goes through cover. Sounds weird to me because this bike has driver footboard and heal/toe shifter which completely protects shift shaft and I do not see how a fall over could have damaged the shifter and cover the way it did. I have another cover so this won't be a big deal to fix. But, The clutch fluid system was completely dry and I'm not sure why. Any thoughts?
GigaWhiskey Posted June 5, 2008 #12 Posted June 5, 2008 With regards to the battery warning light and probe, check out this page - http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=489 Maybe try the speedbleeder on the clutch cylinder to help figure that out quicker, maybe. Maybe just a dried out hose and it all leaked out during those years it sat.
GeorgeS Posted June 5, 2008 #13 Posted June 5, 2008 Yes, the above Link !! Do Not , hook the Wire to the Old " Water Level Sensor " directly to 12 VOLTS !!! If you do, it will fry the Circuit board in the Instrument Panel. Install the Resistor, this will lower the voltage to about 3 to 4 volts, that is felt on the Instrument panel computer. Be sure to Hook it to a Switched 12 volt point. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have to pull the left side covers to make the repair, you might as well Install a " NEW " Clutch Slave Cylinder, as long as your in the area. ( About $30.00 ) Rebuild the Master also. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dragonslayer Posted June 5, 2008 Author #14 Posted June 5, 2008 With regards to the battery warning light and probe, check out this page - http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=489 Maybe try the speedbleeder on the clutch cylinder to help figure that out quicker, maybe. Maybe just a dried out hose and it all leaked out during those years it sat. Thanks GW, Just what I needed to know about battery monitor system. I'll let you know what I find out about clutch fluid.
GigaWhiskey Posted June 5, 2008 #15 Posted June 5, 2008 I stuff my fuse box in the space left over from the Odyssey battery. It fits and keeps the battery snug.
Squeeze Posted June 5, 2008 #16 Posted June 5, 2008 Thanks GW, Just what I needed to know about battery monitor system. I'll let you know what I find out about clutch fluid. Put this Fluid Sensor Thing way behind in your Plan. You don't need it fixed at the Moment. I agree on the new Clutch Slave. Rebuild takes a Lot of Time, it doesn't make sense and is a Pain. You will need a the rear left Gasket anyway and watch out for the Copper Washer on the lowest middle Bolt on that Cover.
GigaWhiskey Posted June 5, 2008 #17 Posted June 5, 2008 Yea, what squeeze said. That is one thing I have not done yet with the new battery. It will run just fine with out it and I have kinda gotten used to the flashing warning light on my dash. It is about time I do it though. Maybe I'll do it on the 21st along with my fuel gauge in the tank thing too.
Dragonslayer Posted June 5, 2008 Author #18 Posted June 5, 2008 Yes, the above Link !! Do Not , hook the Wire to the Old " Water Level Sensor " directly to 12 VOLTS !!! If you do, it will fry the Circuit board in the Instrument Panel. Install the Resistor, this will lower the voltage to about 3 to 4 volts, that is felt on the Instrument panel computer. Be sure to Hook it to a Switched 12 volt point. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have to pull the left side covers to make the repair, you might as well Install a " NEW " Clutch Slave Cylinder, as long as your in the area. ( About $30.00 ) Rebuild the Master also. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------oooops!! May be too late. I hooked up the new battery exactly how old battery was hooked up. See picks. There was no green wire with transistor and white/red wire was hooked directly to positive terminal of battery. Someone had added this in the past even though there was a port for the water level sensor that was still plugged.
Dragonslayer Posted June 8, 2008 Author #19 Posted June 8, 2008 Yes, the above Link !! Do Not , hook the Wire to the Old " Water Level Sensor " directly to 12 VOLTS !!! If you do, it will fry the Circuit board in the Instrument Panel. Install the Resistor, this will lower the voltage to about 3 to 4 volts, that is felt on the Instrument panel computer. Be sure to Hook it to a Switched 12 volt point. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have to pull the left side covers to make the repair, you might as well Install a " NEW " Clutch Slave Cylinder, as long as your in the area. ( About $30.00 ) Rebuild the Master also. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Master and slave rebuild kit on order and should be here next week.
GeorgeS Posted June 8, 2008 #20 Posted June 8, 2008 oooops!! May be too late. I hooked up the new battery exactly how old battery was hooked up. See picks. There was no green wire with transistor and white/red wire was hooked directly to positive terminal of battery. Someone had added this in the past even though there was a port for the water level sensor that was still plugged. Install a 2200 ohm Resistor, in series with the lead to a " switched " 12 volt point. On the fuse block. No need to have voltage, thru the resistor when Ing Switch is " OFF " The Resistor will lower the voltage to about 4 volts, going to the Display panel. If the Instrument panel display, is still working, Your lucky !!
Dragonslayer Posted June 11, 2008 Author #21 Posted June 11, 2008 Install a 2200 ohm Resistor, in series with the lead to a " switched " 12 volt point. On the fuse block. No need to have voltage, thru the resistor when Ing Switch is " OFF " The Resistor will lower the voltage to about 4 volts, going to the Display panel. If the Instrument panel display, is still working, Your lucky !! noted.... Master and slave cylinder rebuild kits showed up today.
Dragonslayer Posted June 17, 2008 Author #22 Posted June 17, 2008 When I removed the left top front fairing there was a wad of Dirt Dabber's nest attached to the radio amp. Definite proof the bike has been sitting to long in one place. Also indicated by the amount of corrossion in the master and slave cylinders of the hydralic clutch system. Carbs before and after exterior bath.
dragerman Posted June 17, 2008 #23 Posted June 17, 2008 "Pride of ownership" ... the worse it looks when you start the better it looks when you're finished! I'm sure you'll have it looking great in no-time!
Dragonslayer Posted June 17, 2008 Author #24 Posted June 17, 2008 "Pride of ownership" ... the worse it looks when you start the better it looks when you're finished! I'm sure you'll have it looking great in no-time! U-Bettcha
Yammer Dan Posted June 17, 2008 #25 Posted June 17, 2008 My project sat for a few years in heated garage. Time is my problem. But it is getting there.
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