Just got an 1984 Venture Royale 1200 - She's in need of Carburator help and WAS starting on choke only before I cleaned it - old gas too.

[Marcarl]

Sounds to me like it is still missing on at least one.

[Solace]

 

 

[Solace]

It's GOTA be running on 3 still. While it was idling I checked exhaust heat and we're indeed back to 1/2 heat on the left side. 

I'm just gonna replace all the coils and go from there. I think probably at high RPM there is more voltage and is jumping the gap. She has NO PROBLEM at high RPM. I feel like I lose spark at low RPM.

Also I totally put a Needle in backwards! Dope! 

• I can only get her started with quick start.
• I have the idle adjusted to what you can hear.
• BOGS on throttle rev
• Once it picks up it definatley revs too high and eventually comes back down
• If I cover the airbox with my hand for a second she revs up, which I am assuming is right and she is just sucking more gas like a choke

I THINK I'M CLOSER!!!!

[Solace]

Still having some trouble. I've replaced 3 coil packs and for sure, I think there has been improvements. 

But now the battery is dead again and I must wait until morning... sigh.

I was concerned about top right coil pack and replaced it, look at the beast go now. It doesn't appear to be 'as frequent' as the other sparks, they're like spark spark spark -- this one is like spark,,,,spark,,,,spark -- that matter?

Edited May 14, 2022 by Solace

[luvmy40]

Are you bench synced?

Did you set all the idle mix screws to the same start point?

Did you ceck to make sure all of the idle mix screw parts are there and installed in the correct order?

Did you set the fuel level in the bowls?

I would also hghly recommend relocating the CDI to the top of the air box when you replace the coils. It will be much cooler and more protedcted from the elements there.

I would also recommend updating the fuse block.

Keep in mind also, these bikes will not run right with air box open. They will idle, kind of, but bog and choke with any throttle. 

Hanging throttle, stuttering/bogging on wind up, back fire on decel are all indicators of the carbs being out of sync. Of course they can also indicate other problems, but the sync is the most likely culprit.

[BlueSky]

Did you check/replace the wires for corrosion,  spark plug caps?

[Solace]

Here she is. She a little bit hard to start some times, other times starts right up with a second of choke. 

[Solace]

I think I've already made air mixture screw adjustments to the previous video, cuz she isn't bogging for air anymore.

[Solace]

SUCCESS. 

Well guys, thanks for your helpful tips on this bike. WHAT A FINNICKY MONSTER SHE WAS! By far the most touchy engine I've worked on (5+). Super interesting.

I need to get that 4th air mixture screw loosened, she's stuck good, but the other carbs are making up for it. The power is getting there, she will live on!

[BlueSky]

Sounds like it's running on 2 cylinders still.  You'll get it sorted out.  

[luvmy40]

Yep, difinitely missing 2 bangs. These machines sing like a sewing machine when hitting on all 4 and synced up.

[Solace]

I suppose this explains why it is SO hard to start, only 2 cyls. 

[BlueSky]

I'm too lazy to go back through the thread.  You have checked the compression?  It may need a valve adjustment.

Edited May 15, 2022 by BlueSky

[Solace]

Haven’t check compression might finally buy a tool for it lol.

im hoping now that I have all 4 sparking new plugs will make her happy.

[Solace]

Strange question: some plugs on a spark test seem to fire more often that other cylinders, but they all do spark.

that ok?

[Solace]

New plugs! 

We are at the final stages; I think it's just carb tuning now. I haven't noted that ALL 4 of the air pistons/needle thingies were moving, now all 4 are moving! Also the bike sounds crazier, and yeah kinda like a sewing machine!

However I need quick start to start, won't idle -- yet. Any tips? 

[Solace]

Ive gotten it to here adjusting the air mixture screws INWARD they're at about 1.5 turns on 3x of the carbs, but that last carb is just seized up and I have no idea what position it is. 

Smoke is just from crap on the metal I think, I degreased it. Burning it off. I hope.

[luvmy40]

I'd bet your still only hitting on 3 cylinders and the carbs really need to be synchronized.

[Solace]

Synchronized? All the butterfly flaps are in perfect sync.

Ill have to do another test make sure we’re on 4

[Marcarl]

9 minutes ago, Solace said:

Synchronized? All the butterfly flaps are in perfect sync.

Ill have to do another test make sure we’re on 4

You are still missing on one cylinder sounds like. It's time to sync the carbs to get a better handle on things. You can't sync by looking at the sliders, you'll need a sync tool for that, as well as setting the idle mixture screws properly.

[Solace]

So we can say the spark plug is working, it’s got spark, but the carb is totally messing up and it’s not igniting the cylinder while the other 3 are?

[BlueSky]

That idle mixture screw needs freeing up.  Was it stuck when you disassembled the carbs? 

Idling way too fast usually means a vacuum leak.  I would suspect a leak between the carbs and the engine, the "manifolds" or carb holders.  

Edited May 15, 2022 by BlueSky

[Solace]

yea the air mix screw is stuck good. Will spend an hour on her tonight 😕

 

[Solace]

Ok, so freeing up the carb air mix — and buying a set of sync gauges. Will report back by Thursday.

Edited May 15, 2022 by Solace

[Solace]

OK guys here's a comp video of my Venture running on 2, and now I'm not sure if she is on 3 or 4. But there's an improvement.

I had to order some tools to extract the stuck air mixture screw. Guess I'll work on the ATV until that arrives!