Ivanhoe2005 Posted May 26, 2021 #1 Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) Got a new to me Tour Deluxe 05 model. This is my second such as I had a '96 model years ago. Got a question about my kick stand. It will function but only at the right angle. Road the new bike yesterday and when it was time to kick stand could not get it down. Hard to get the right angle with my foot. Left me setting on it at the shop for sometime until I rigged away to make it stand up. Anybody have this experience? Edited May 26, 2021 by Ivanhoe2005
Ivanhoe2005 Posted May 26, 2021 Author #3 Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) not stiff, the angle is the problem. I move it with one finger at the right angle. Do you use your heel or toe to get it down. Had wrong shoes on yesterday, boots might be the trick or maybe holding my mouth right, thanks. Edited May 26, 2021 by Ivanhoe2005
Marcarl Posted May 27, 2021 #5 Posted May 27, 2021 Don't have or need a kickstand. Just stop the bike, shut it off and jump off. It will lay down by itself. 2
Heimdog Posted September 27, 2021 #6 Posted September 27, 2021 On 5/26/2021 at 7:51 PM, Marcarl said: Don't have or need a kickstand. Just stop the bike, shut it off and jump off. It will lay down by itself. 🤣
saddlebum Posted September 27, 2021 #7 Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Heimdog said: 🤣 On 5/26/2021 at 8:51 PM, Marcarl said: Don't have or need a kickstand. Just stop the bike, shut it off and jump off. It will lay down by itself. What are you laughing at ? I have seen him do it once at the gas pumps..
Heimdog Posted September 27, 2021 #8 Posted September 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, saddlebum said: What are you laughing at ? I have seen him do it once at the gas pumps.. I did once on a different bike, at an ATM. Totally forgot to put the kickstand down. How does one forget something like that?
Marcarl Posted September 27, 2021 #9 Posted September 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Heimdog said: I did once on a different bike, at an ATM. Totally forgot to put the kickstand down. How does one forget something like that? OOOOOH,,, that's easy for some of us!!
saddlebum Posted September 28, 2021 #10 Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) On 9/27/2021 at 10:02 AM, Heimdog said: I did once on a different bike, at an ATM. Totally forgot to put the kickstand down. How does one forget something like that? On 9/27/2021 at 4:15 PM, Marcarl said: OOOOOH,,, that's easy for some of us!! Its called sometimers .....Some times you just forget. Edited September 28, 2021 by saddlebum
Pasta Burner Posted November 29, 2021 #11 Posted November 29, 2021 My 87 venture I can’t honestly say how I put the stand down foot position wise but sometimes I get scared it’s leaning wayyy too far, even on level ground. I’ve even had fellow riders think she was gonna fall or I forgot. My Ducati on the other hand is the exact opposite, I hook my toe around the stand and hold it down while I set the bike into position, it’s spring loaded to always be up unless in use. It sits sooo upright if I’m not on the perfect slope she has the potential to fall on her right side. It’s honestly a pain to park at most all events because it’s too finicky to fall in-line with the other bikes.
SpencerPJ Posted November 29, 2021 #12 Posted November 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Pasta Burner said: My 87 venture I can’t honestly say how I put the stand down foot position wise but sometimes I get scared it’s leaning wayyy too far, even on level ground. I’ve even had fellow riders think she was gonna fall or I forgot. My Ducati on the other hand is the exact opposite, I hook my toe around the stand and hold it down while I set the bike into position, it’s spring loaded to always be up unless in use. It sits sooo upright if I’m not on the perfect slope she has the potential to fall on her right side. It’s honestly a pain to park at most all events because it’s too finicky to fall in-line with the other bikes. I would look closer at that. Might simply need to tighten the screw. My kickstand broke, at the fork, bike fell over (the only drop ever with me) I replaced it with one off ebay, stood much straighter. 1
Marcarl Posted November 29, 2021 #13 Posted November 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Pasta Burner said: My 87 venture I can’t honestly say how I put the stand down foot position wise but sometimes I get scared it’s leaning wayyy too far, even on level ground. I’ve even had fellow riders think she was gonna fall or I forgot. My Ducati on the other hand is the exact opposite, I hook my toe around the stand and hold it down while I set the bike into position, it’s spring loaded to always be up unless in use. It sits sooo upright if I’m not on the perfect slope she has the potential to fall on her right side. It’s honestly a pain to park at most all events because it’s too finicky to fall in-line with the other bikes. You might want to check the slop in the bolt, just a little slop will make a big difference. 1
saddlebum Posted November 29, 2021 #14 Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) My 89 sits fine on the center stand but it sits too upright on the side stand. I always have to check ground grade before putting the side stand down and forget parking on the side of the road were the shoulders are narrow or it may fall over into the ditch. At home I have an anchor ring pegged down in the driveway to secure the bike so the wind which comes from the west and pretty heavy at times does not blow my bike over when it is covered. I tell my Harley ridding friends its because these bikes are so hot blooded that you have to tether them or they will just up and take off on their own. Edited November 29, 2021 by saddlebum 1
saddlebum Posted November 29, 2021 #15 Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Marcarl said: You might want to check the slop in the bolt, just a little slop will make a big difference. As well it is a good idea to check or even replace the bolt as they have been known to break at the most inopportune time Edited November 30, 2021 by saddlebum 1
Pasta Burner Posted March 2, 2022 #16 Posted March 2, 2022 So I finally decided to crouch down and take a look. There is slop at the bolt junction, how tight should it be? Obviously still needs to move. See video for reference. IMG_0642.MOV
SpencerPJ Posted March 2, 2022 #17 Posted March 2, 2022 I wouldn't tighten that pot metal. Long as nut is fully on threads, I wouldn't touch it. If you feel the need, maybe a washer or two shims. And keep an eye on it, the one thing that broke o my 83 and bike was laying on garage floor. 1
Pasta Burner Posted March 2, 2022 #18 Posted March 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, SpencerPJ said: I wouldn't tighten that pot metal. Long as nut is fully on threads, I wouldn't touch it. If you feel the need, maybe a washer or two shims. And keep an eye on it, the one thing that broke o my 83 and bike was laying on garage floor. Are you referring to the bolt, kickstand or both?My first thought when I saw the bolt head was “that looks shoddy and weak”. Thought it might be a good idea to replace the bolt. I also thought I can press the kickstand fork tighter but that may weaken it. Shims could work.
saddlebum Posted March 6, 2022 #19 Posted March 6, 2022 Looks like the wear is in the frame eye. OPTION 1; It there is plenty of meat drill out both frame bracket and kick stand to accept a larger diameter bolt. OPTION 2; As long as there is enough meat and only the frame bracket is worn, slowly drill it out until you end up with a round hole or close to round hole and fit the hole with a steel bushing that has an inner hole same as bolt size. Try to get a snug fit but a sliding fit as long as there is no play is fine. Coat both hole and outside of bushing with Loctite's green sleeve and bearing set. Wait a few minutes, wipe away any excess and reassemble. BTW green Loctite will fill a void up to 0.020" securely. 1
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