koonta Posted September 20, 2020 #1 Posted September 20, 2020 But....I thought I'd check the valves on my '83 so it's apart in the garage, and I didn't realize how hard it was going to be coming up with a bucket tool. Local Yamaha dealer was no help and nothing in my Google search.
tufftom4 Posted September 20, 2020 #2 Posted September 20, 2020 I have been working on cars, trucks, motorcycles, and just about anything and have rebuilt my share of engines but I have never heard of a bucket tool so school me.
koonta Posted September 20, 2020 Author #4 Posted September 20, 2020 Thanks Marcarl. I guess I should have used the common name, shim tool or valve adjusting tool, sorry.
MiCarl Posted September 21, 2020 #5 Posted September 21, 2020 You don't need the tool to check them, only to replace shims if they're out of spec. The tool you need is distributed by K&L Supply, catalog number 32-3462. I'd be shocked if your local dealer isn't set up to sell their products. If they won't cooperate try the independent shops.
koonta Posted September 21, 2020 Author #6 Posted September 21, 2020 I messaged K&L and they said they were out of stock til middle of Oct. I'll try a couple more dealers. Thanks
Flyinfool Posted September 21, 2020 #7 Posted September 21, 2020 If you contact @skydoc_17 and buy the gaskets from him, he has a shim kit that he loans out and it has the tool in it.
saddlebum Posted September 22, 2020 #8 Posted September 22, 2020 Check Ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Valve-Shim-Tool-VMAX-XVZ12-XVZ13-Venture-V-MAX-04105-/192042659944
luvmy40 Posted September 22, 2020 #9 Posted September 22, 2020 Check Ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Valve-Shim-Tool-VMAX-XVZ12-XVZ13-Venture-V-MAX-04105-/192042659944 "0" Available
SilveradoCA Posted September 23, 2020 #10 Posted September 23, 2020 Can someone on here 3D print a bunch of these? I'll buy one.
luvmy40 Posted September 23, 2020 #11 Posted September 23, 2020 It would have to be printed with a metal printer which are still far out of the hobbyist price point. There are several 3 D Metal print services available, but that tool design may be patented. They probably also have a minimum run threshold. Still, it might be worth looking into.
SilveradoCA Posted September 23, 2020 #12 Posted September 23, 2020 It would have to be printed with a metal printer which are still far out of the hobbyist price point. There are several 3 D Metal print services available, but that tool design may be patented. They probably also have a minimum run threshold. Still, it might be worth looking into. I haven't used one, so I have to ask why it would have to be made from metal? Would hard plastic not do the job?
luvmy40 Posted September 23, 2020 #13 Posted September 23, 2020 There may be a plastic suiteable for making this tool. I would imagine that there definitely is a suiteable plastic. It's probably not going to be 3 D printable. 3 D printers have come a long way in a few years and they are capable of some pretty fantastic production, but the extrusion type makes pieces that look nice and are fairly sturdy but they would never stand up to the pressure and friction involved with compressing the valve springs of the Venture. Not to mention the contact with petroleaum lubricants. There might be a Resin material for the resin type 3 D printers that would work, I don't know, but I doubt it.
koonta Posted September 23, 2020 Author #14 Posted September 23, 2020 It's hard to believe these tools have dried up with all the interest in them, there had to be a ton of these motors produced, a lot of which are still in use. [ although a few years ago when I stopped at a dealership looking for a part the parts man wasn't as old as my bike and didn't have a clue what I was talking about], but these motors were used in other apps not just the Venture. The patent on these has to have expired by now, from what I've read 20yrs and they expire with no renewal. Hard plastic may work but the area on the bucket it would push is so narrow I would be afraid of them chipping, but nice thought.
SilveradoCA Posted September 24, 2020 #15 Posted September 24, 2020 I appreciate the h/u on the finer points of 3D printing; it's not a process I'm familiar with. Lots of ways these could be made though; CNC, laser cut or water-jet come to mind. I have no idea how many would need to be done to make the price reasonable, unless a hobbyist were to take a swipe at it. It wouldn't be particularly hard to make one -gasp- by hand either, if a fella had the dimensions.
koonta Posted September 25, 2020 Author #16 Posted September 25, 2020 I messaged with Skydoc, tool is out on loan right now and I'm going to daughters for a few weeks to hopefully help out with grandkids, dad's there too but with a 2yr old and fresh twins they have their hands full so I'll check back with him when I return. For fun I'd called a couple dealers on the shim tool, one didn't get back the other said they could order it @ $132. ow! K&L had said their outta stock one sold for $87 or so.
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