Any lop eared HVAC professionals in the club?

[cowpuc]

I was able to come up with one possible scenario where a critter MIGHT be able to do internal compressor damage.

The critter would have to chew off one of the hot leads including chewing thru the copper (this part is unlikely, most critters do not chew metal) the hot side of that wire would have to stay clear of all grounds, and the compressor side would have to be connected to a ground. This would let the motor in the compressor try to run at 110V which would burn up the motor. This would have been one talented critter.

 

I met me a lop eared varmint once who had created a device,, particially powered by electricity but from what I saw of the machine - it appeared to also be Nuclear in its workings too, that actually controlled our weather.. Thats right,, now known in the weather conspiracy arena's as the Wisconsin White Washer,, it is a known fact that this infamous machine has caused endless misery to unsuspecting victims who have fallen to its spew of snow!! That being said,, if a varmint can produce such an atrocity,, what makes one think that another less than stellar varmint of a lesser breed could not come up with the means of doing exactly what you describe Fool!!

[Flyinfool]

Sometimes it is better to be lucky than just good.

[cowpuc]

Sometimes it is better to be lucky than just good. https://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=118975

 

Oh come on!! That factual piece of historic data has got to deserve at least one showing of that amazing little WWW rattle can sign painter!!!! ,, you know,, as simple minded and as easy to entertain as I am,, I could sit and study/watch that little feller for hours,, watching him shake that can and his hair move in perfect timing with the rattle of the can.. Then watch the over spray gather around his perfect graffiti artest paintestry.. Sooo amazing!! At least for the simple minded such as myself.. COME ON FOOL,, give it up!!!!

[Flyinfool]

Oh come on!! That factual piece of historic data has got to deserve at least one showing of that amazing little WWW rattle can sign painter!!!! ,, you know,, as simple minded and as easy to entertain as I am,, I could sit and study/watch that little feller for hours,, watching him shake that can and his hair move in perfect timing with the rattle of the can.. Then watch the over spray gather around his perfect graffiti artest paintestry.. Sooo amazing!! At least for the simple minded such as myself.. COME ON FOOL,, give it up!!!!

 

Did you just your own thread???

 

 

[luvmy40]

Pucster! How ya doin'?

 

Thanks for the nomination, btw. Full disclosure, I'm a commercial refrigeration field engineer. I don't really do much residential HVAC, so:

 

I too fall into the category that thinks there isn't really any way a critter chewed wire fragged your compressor. Stopped it in it's tracks? Yes. Burned it up? No.

 

Repair your wiring issues and if the compressor doesn't start, try this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/spp5-Hard-Start-Super-Boost-Hvac-Relay-and-Start-Capacitor-replacement/586039209?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101017441&adid=22222222227343449096&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=430142005572&wl4=pla-894807573489&wl5=9023957&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=169768588&wl11=online&wl12=586039209&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjwh472BRAGEiwAvHVfGvi1dZSXTxv0WTb82LjI_lV3S9JMIFOHsZv-UcMmlJVTddmP6BV_hRoCHXMQAvD_BwE

 

It might fix it, it might not, but for $9.00 it's worth a try.

 

BTY, If you can replace a stator coil and rebuild an engine, you can fix your air conditioner.

[cowpuc]

Pucster! How ya doin'?

 

Thanks for the nomination, btw. Full disclosure, I'm a commercial refrigeration field engineer. I don't really do much residential HVAC, so:

 

I too fall into the category that thinks there isn't really any way a critter chewed wire fragged your compressor. Stopped it in it's tracks? Yes. Burned it up? No.

 

Repair your wiring issues and if the compressor doesn't start, try this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/spp5-Hard-Start-Super-Boost-Hvac-Relay-and-Start-Capacitor-replacement/586039209?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101017441&adid=22222222227343449096&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=430142005572&wl4=pla-894807573489&wl5=9023957&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=169768588&wl11=online&wl12=586039209&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjwh472BRAGEiwAvHVfGvi1dZSXTxv0WTb82LjI_lV3S9JMIFOHsZv-UcMmlJVTddmP6BV_hRoCHXMQAvD_BwE

 

It might fix it, it might not, but for $9.00 it's worth a try.

 

BTY, If you can replace a stator coil and rebuild an engine, you can fix your air conditioner.

 

You are more than welcome Rich!! You know me,, right - wrong or indifferent,, I call them as I see them and IMHO,, you earned the recognition - THANK YOU again for your assistance on the site and IRL brother!!

Thank you too for jumping in here too and for the suggestion on the Cap - never knew Wally World handled HVAC parts - learn something new every day cause of lop eared varmints like you ! Quick question,, set aside the critter story (I still plan on doing a video of rechecking the motor and I will show what I found when I get there BUT - I am sure I could have easily misread what I saw/found) and think with me for a second.. If I test the windings at the terminals and they test open or show they have gone to ground do you still think trying that Hard Start Capacitor would be worth a shot? Is there a chance that if the thermal protection inside of the compressor case that is hermatically sealed could be jarred via high voltage to cause it to function again?

 

Thanks

Puc

[Flyinfool]

First disconnect all capacitors, there could be more than one. Then disconnect the motor rom all other wiring so that you are only checking the motor.

 

If it is shorted to ground it is probably toast.

 

If it is showing as open Make sure you are not checking thru the capacitor or any other switch.

[uncledj]

Thermal overload will only reset when it cools down. If the compressor has been off for quite a while, it should have reset. If not there's not much you can do. If that's the case, you may want to give the compressor a good hard hit to see if that'd get it to close, but it'd be a major stroke of luck if it works.

The hard start kit will help if the original cause of your woes was simply that the compressor wouldn't start. If THAT's the case, I'd check the oem capacitor(s) first, but either way...the hard start kit would do no harm. If the capacitor's failed, they usually will bulge at the top, ....perhaps leak some oil.....The resulting high amp draw usually burns up wire terminals, either at the capacitor, contactor, or compressor terminals. Capacitors and contactors are pretty cheap. If one or the other ends up being the problem, lemme know the rating and I can get them to you.

There's a simple way to check a capacitor with a simple analog voltmeter. If you think that's the issue and want to check, let us know, ...or you can probably google it,...I'm sure there's a Youtube video out there that'll tell you how to check. Super simple.

You'll also want to make sure your contactor isn't burnt, as that may have been the original cause of failure. Again, super simple.

This stuff may seem mysterious and complicated, but it's not..... it ain't nuthin' compared to tearing down a Venture....or even a lawn mower.

 

 

 

 

[luvmy40]

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What He Said!

 

No, if you have a dead short to ground or an open winding, the hard start capacitor won't help. But if it's a case of corroded contacts, coupled with chewed wires on a 25 year old condensing unit? A little rewiring and a kick in the buttocks might just be the ticket.