I think we got more problems than just high gas prices

[Guest tx2sturgis]

Well no, Condor...it is actually true. And yes, lawyers will probably get rich over this one, just like they did with big tobacco.

 

I'm in the transportation industry. Its been an ongoing problem for years. For the average car driver, it only amounts to a few 10's of dollars per year, and only if they live where it gets pretty hot in the summer.

 

But for the trucking industry, many truckstops have above-ground tanks, and the fuel that is hauled in by tanker, which does heat up in that tank as the truck travels hundreds of miles in the hot southern climate, from rack to retailer, stays at temps above 60f.

 

The large truckstops can sell 10,000 gallons of diesel per hour, and it stays at the 70 or higher temps as its pumped into the trucks tank, but is measured as if it was at 60f, so when it cools off eventually in the fuel tank, it slightly contracts and you dont have the number of gallons you actually paid for.

 

The trucking industry has been trying to get the retailers to install temperature compensated pumps, but of course that would cost money.

 

So litigation becomes the next action.

 

We'll see.

 

For what its worth, in my opinion, any retailer forced to upgrade the pumps, will just pass that cost along to the consumer, and raise the price of fuel even more.

 

 

[Condor]

Well no, Condor...it is actually true. And yes, lawyers will probably get rich over this one, just like they did with big tobacco.

 

So litigation becomes the next action.

 

We'll see.

 

For what its worth, in my opinion, any retailer forced to upgrade the pumps, will just pass that cost along to the consumer, and raise the price of fuel even more.

 

Brian my statement was directed more toward the private consumer, to which we as bike riders belong, than towards a commercial application. A smaller station isn't going to pump anywhere near those kinds of numbers, and for the most part the fuel will cool to a static temp over a few days. So yes, the statement does have creditability when dealing with the private user. Let's forget about those times when we all need to fill up out on the highway. When traveling and you need fuel, you buy it, no matter whether it's from a high volume station, the time of day, or the temperature. Now on the other hand, try to buy your gas in the winter right after a tanker drops their load. Then you'll be getting more fuel because the gallon is colder and the reverse is true. But I don't see anyone jumping up and complaining about the 'cold' gallon.....

[friesman]

Brian my statement was directed more toward the private consumer, to which we as bike riders belong, than towards a commercial application. A smaller station isn't going to pump anywhere near those kinds of numbers, and for the most part the fuel will cool to a static temp over a few days. So yes, the statement does have creditability when dealing with the private user. Let's forget about those times when we all need to fill up out on the highway. When traveling and you need fuel, you buy it, no matter whether it's from a high volume station, the time of day, or the temperature. Now on the other hand, try to buy your gas in the winter right after a tanker drops their load. Then you'll be getting more fuel because the gallon is colder and the reverse is true. But I don't see anyone jumping up and complaining about the 'cold' gallon.....

 

IN one of the articles quoted in a post above in USA today, stated that most of the canadian pumps are temperature regulated to dispense the correct amount and correct based on temperature, so those of us in colder climates dont get that bump in btu's from a cold gallon (or liter) . It seems again that the oil companies try to work all the angles their way, but we have to blame our governments more because they allow it to happen.

 

I am not normally a militant or a guy who takes things to heart, but I really dont like to feel like I am bein g cheated.