cptriker1 Posted May 22, 2019 #1 Posted May 22, 2019 Since I've gotten my bike over a year ago, I just more or less didn't look at my rear tire. The owner insured me that the tire was only a year old, but I had been told that the matching front tire had a date code of being 4 years old. About 2 weeks ago as I was riding my bike I started feeling this weird tapping being transmitted to my right foot through my pegs. This happened when I leaned my bike towards the right but when I leaned it towards the left the tapping went away. Now this tapping was not a sound it was just a tapping that I was feeling as the tire was rolling. But I've been too busy and the only way I can get the bike up on the center stand is to use a jack. This combination of factors could have cost me my life. Just the day before I pulled this Tire I was on the interstate at highway speed. And yes, this is a condition I was riding on. I don't know what to say other than I was just stupid. This tire was split in so many places oh, it's one of the worst that I've seen in my life. In multiple places you can see right to the chord, but then you can see this one section where I completely lost a chunk of rubber. Just understand, I'm not able to do nor do I do burnouts. I just drive my bike, and I drive it a lot! But to think that I let a tire get this bad it's entirely my fault. Sadly, in order for me to get to the tire it has taken me over an excess of 5 + hours to remove the previous owners dressings and additional problems that compounded the time to remove this tire. Needless to say, all this dressing crap is not going back on the bike. I mean it looks cute, but removing it is nothing short of pure hell and it has to be removed in order to get to the tire. And when I have to go through something like that, it's time for it to be removed! Fortunately, a local Suzuki dealership has a Dunlop Tire on hold for me. The owner has been balancing motorcycle tires since the sixties oh, and I can attest that his work is first class. So, tomorrow I'm going to wind up spending $130 to mount and balance a brand new tire. Gee what a small price to pay in order to protect my life. I guess it'll be safe to assume that I'm going to make sure that at least once a month I lift my bike up and inspect both tires and at the same time checking my oil as well doesn't hurt. It's just that we all get busy, but sometimes missing something really could cost you your life. I have to say this very plainly only the Lord protected me with this tire not letting go. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
slowrollwv Posted May 22, 2019 #2 Posted May 22, 2019 You are one lucky man. That tire does not look to be 2 years old. Look on the side of the tire for an oval with four numbers like 3415. The first two # are the week and the last # is the year of production.
baylensman Posted May 22, 2019 #3 Posted May 22, 2019 While the tread looks deep enough and the edges of the grooves are sharp enough, it appears as if the tire has only a few miles on it. The previous owner may have installed the tire less than 1 year before he sold it, but that doesn't mean hep on a "new" or just laid up tire at that time. I've seen small shops have 10-12 year old tires just sitting on the shelf and are happy to sell them cheap.From the fine webbing around the grooves i say you have an advanced case of "dry rot" . Also from the out and out destruction of the tire i'm wondering if it was exposed to some chemical reactant that accelerated the rubber separation like that.
Motorcycle Mike Posted May 22, 2019 #5 Posted May 22, 2019 I guess it'll be safe to assume that I'm going to make sure that at least once a month I lift my bike up and inspect both tires and at the same time checking my oil as well doesn't hurt. It's just that we all get busy, but sometimes missing something really could cost you your life. Checking tire pressure and condition before every ride has saved me a few times. No lift required.
grubsie Posted May 22, 2019 #6 Posted May 22, 2019 Holy crap! You are one lucky dude to even be here telling us your story. I hope this ups your game for routine maintenance and inspection from now on.
cptriker1 Posted May 22, 2019 Author #7 Posted May 22, 2019 Tire was an Avon. Made in 2015. Was told this morning the number one killer of tires is low pressure. I had 22 & needed 40. And this is what happens. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
gmarshall Posted May 22, 2019 #8 Posted May 22, 2019 I believe that Tire is a Cobra Venom. I had installed a set on my 06 RSV. Not long after I was seeing small cracks in the sidewall. I believe They had some earlier issues with cracking. But man that tire is BAD.
cptriker1 Posted May 22, 2019 Author #9 Posted May 22, 2019 Yeah it was cracked, split, just outright SCREWED. God protected me. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
cptriker1 Posted May 22, 2019 Author #10 Posted May 22, 2019 Yes, it is the Avon Cobra Venom. Date code 1915. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
bongobobny Posted May 22, 2019 #11 Posted May 22, 2019 Yup, that seems to be around the time Avon was having trouble with their tires from what I remember. Before that it was the Metzler 880's throwing chunks of rubber off of the tire. OK, this morning's best try... Street Tires Under Pressured Is Deadly!!!
BratmanXj Posted May 22, 2019 #12 Posted May 22, 2019 OK, this morning's best try... Street Tires Under Pressured Is Deadly!!! Weekly occurance at my house; check 3 cars & 2 motorcycles for Oil, tires, washer fluid, etc. 30 min max when they are all in the garage anyways.
uhfradarwill Posted May 22, 2019 #13 Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) Yes, it is the Avon Cobra Venom. Date code 1915. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk OMG!! That tire was made in 1915; no wonder it's dry!! If someone went down in front of me taking me out in the process with a tire like that, I'd be pretty pissed...... BTW - A safety visual inspection is not a "Monthly" check. It is an every time, just before you hop on for a ride, check. Edited May 22, 2019 by uhfradarwill
cptriker1 Posted May 22, 2019 Author #14 Posted May 22, 2019 Well, a brand new Dunlop is going on today... Im just glad this one didn't blow on me at speed... Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
WildBill1 Posted May 22, 2019 #15 Posted May 22, 2019 Since there is only two of them too look at it don't take much time to do the check. Oh if I were you I'd buy a couple lottery tickets.
Newbeme Posted May 22, 2019 #16 Posted May 22, 2019 Fortunately, a local Suzuki dealership has a Dunlop Tire on hold for me. The owner has been balancing motorcycle tires since the sixties oh, and I can attest that his work is first class. So, tomorrow I'm going to wind up spending $130 to mount and balance a brand new tire. Gee what a small price to pay in order to protect my life. I have a set of Avon Cobras on my bike and they are starting to get some small cracks in the side walls. After seeing this, I am going to get a set of tires ordered soon. What shop are you using down here on the Coast? I want a good balance so I don't have to tear this beast apart twice.
cptriker1 Posted May 22, 2019 Author #17 Posted May 22, 2019 I have a set of Avon Cobras on my bike and they are starting to get some small cracks in the side walls. After seeing this, I am going to get a set of tires ordered soon. What shop are you using down here on the Coast? I want a good balance so I don't have to tear this beast apart twice.Suzuki City in Biloxi. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Newbeme Posted May 22, 2019 #18 Posted May 22, 2019 Cool and thanks. I used to go there a few years back when I had a Suzuki dual purpose.
Venturous Randy Posted May 23, 2019 #19 Posted May 23, 2019 With putting about 150,000 miles on my 83 and with using several tire brands, the only one I have ever had a problem with was an Avon Venom on the rear. This was not from a tire failure, but bike handling. I was so impressed in how much lighter the bike felt when I went to the Avons until I was riding one up at about 65mph and up. This was due to a tail wag that got worse, the faster I got. I also found that I was not the only 1st gen rider that was experiencing this problem. What ultimately ended up being the best for me was an Avon front tire and a Dunlop Elite 3 on the rear. If you want to know how I resolved my concern with getting the bike on the center stand, let me know. Also, my granddaughter could spin the bike around on smooth concrete by herself. Randy
Red Ryder Posted May 23, 2019 #20 Posted May 23, 2019 Oh yea, your Very Lucky. I had two sets of Venom tires go bad, but Avon replaced them. Your tire was built on the 19th week of 2015. That is not that old, would say a compound issue with low air pressure caused this problem. Glad all is well, Later-
Sailor Posted May 23, 2019 #21 Posted May 23, 2019 Avons are made in England and they are good. I have never had a problem with them. Avon was also getting tires made in Brazil and those tires had problems.
RedRider Posted May 24, 2019 #22 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) Which Dunlop are your putting on? E3 / E4 is good. The D404 is too light a tire for the Venture and will only give 4-5000 miles (if you behave). RR Edited May 28, 2019 by RedRider
cptriker1 Posted May 24, 2019 Author #23 Posted May 24, 2019 D404 Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
RedRider Posted May 24, 2019 #24 Posted May 24, 2019 Keep an eye on it. You won't get much life. However, glad you are back on the road with a safe tire. That Avon was scary. RR
saddlebum Posted May 25, 2019 #25 Posted May 25, 2019 You are definitely lucky that's for sure . Like what was mentioned before I had the Avon venoms and I too had the Tail Wag issue fortunately the side walls were cracking very quickly after I got them and they were replaced so I went back to the dunlops I ended up running E3's front and rear and I am very pleased with them.
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