Just-Jack Posted May 4, 2008 #1 Posted May 4, 2008 for some reason radio was working yesterday i parked it for the night went and took off this morning and i have nothing i mean nothing no display sound etc i checked all three fuse boxes from what i could tell no fuses blown any other suggestions out there ? anyone else have this problem? help i need my tunes thanks jack:confused07::confused07::confused07::think::think:
SaltyDawg Posted May 4, 2008 #2 Posted May 4, 2008 Well it's a warranty item so that's good. I'm thinking it might be that dreaded ignition switch. It can cause some weird stuff.
Just-Jack Posted May 4, 2008 Author #3 Posted May 4, 2008 if the ignition switch would be going bad wouldnt it effect the starting of the bike? only thing not working is the radidio im about to split the fairing and clean the connections
Squidley Posted May 4, 2008 #4 Posted May 4, 2008 Your best bet for right now is to split the fairing and clean the connections, make sure to grease them up with some dilectric grease before you put them back together. I know that folks have had a similar problem and that took care of it, let us know how you do.
Just-Jack Posted May 4, 2008 Author #5 Posted May 4, 2008 well all split cleaned and greased up to no avail looks like time for the dealer to replace the unit unless there is something im missing
kbran Posted May 4, 2008 #6 Posted May 4, 2008 I've been having problems with mine since the wet day on the Natchez Trace ride. Had problems last year and Tom440 helped me put dil. grease on the connectors and it quit hanging up. Now it switches off aux. to cb and hangs there while nothing works, then back and if you try to move something on it, it will start over. I pulled the farirng and unpluged all fittings and can't get it to work right. Before I applied the grease it would just hang up when it would get wet and a few days later start working again. Been two weeks now and it is still acting up.
James Ardrey Posted May 5, 2008 #7 Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) Mine started acting up in December and the dealer replaced the main brain component and it worked perfectly until about 2 wks ago and they ordered and replaced the brain again. It worked perfectly for about 10 min. on the road. They are stumped and they want to keep my bike for a few days to do some systems analysis to try to determine the problem. The symptoms are as described here. It cycles through all the functions, shuts itself off,comes back on by itself. Vibration seems to be playing a role in the things I describe. I pulled all the plugs in Dec. and added dialectic grease. The system at least the radio worked perfectly until I reved the engine or started down the road. I haven't checked with this most recent occurrence but if I was sitting still with engine the radio would work perfectly. They started replacing brains because the cycling through the functions continued even with the control module disconnected so they and I deducted that it must be the brain. I question this logic as this is the third brain counting the original that I have had put in. I doubt that all three brains were defective. I think they are going to find a short in one of the connectors. The service manager states that they have a protocol trouble shooting guide from Clarion that they will use to check the system. They keep saying this is the first Venture they have seen with this problem. All the others were what has been described on this site with reconnecting the connectors and solving audio problems. I will post the result as soon as I find out the problem with my audio system. I just picked up my baby this afternoon and the stereo system is working perfectly. The mechanic found that the stator was putting out twice the normal amps. Around 30 amps actually and 3.5 amps above battery amps @ idle and much more @ higher rpm's. The mechanic believes the increased amps through the audio system was causing the bizarre behavior. I looked @ the stator and the windings were partially melted together in spots from heat build up. The mechanic states that this could explain increased amperage due to decreased resistance through the windings in the stator. He said the voltage regulator was trying to reduce amps but was unable to decrease to normal limits with the stator generating twice the normal amps. He had a couple of other 2nd gens to compare and actually put a different voltage regulator on with the same results ruling out a faulty voltage regulator. As I said the audio system is working perfectly now. I have never heard of a stator producing too much voltage before. It is usually too little especially with the RSV. He said he has a couple of other 2nd gens with similar symptoms right now.This could very well be the cause of some of the problems described in this post. I never would have suspected the stator putting out too many amps because the only thing on the bike that isn't working properly is the audio system. Maybe some of you have discovered this problem before but I haven't seen any posts stating this as a problem. Edited May 14, 2008 by James Ardrey Update on stereo malfunction
cmacrider Posted May 5, 2008 #8 Posted May 5, 2008 Hi guys, I'm new here but I'd like to add something about RSV radio problems. I purchased a 2008 venture about 7 weeks ago and never could get the radio working right. Sometimes it came on but would not change from radio to CB to Cass, etc. Sometimes I'd get stuck on a Spanish station and couldn't get it to change. Sometimes the display would fade in and out. We'd stop for the night and get up the next day and maybe it would work for an hour or so and then start acting up again. While on a ride with MTA Chap 6 (Dallas) Rick and Rex started yanking on the wires and got it working - sometimes. The dealer replaced it all last week and it has worked fine ever since. The dealer said mine was the third radio he'd replaced on a Venture in the last two or three weeks. Apparently my problem was not uncommon. I found out the radios are made by Clarion. When they ordered the new radio for me it came in in about two weeks. It took the mechanic about 45 minutes to swap mine out and instal the new one...while I waited. Mac
Guest tx2sturgis Posted May 5, 2008 #9 Posted May 5, 2008 Hey guys...I have read about this problem and so far, mine has worked fine. Its a 2007 RSV with around 4700 miles now. One thing that may...repeat MAY...have helped. The first time I split the fairing and noticed all those round connectors, hanging loosely in the fairing. That dont look good to me! So I used about a dozen zip-ties and secured all of them to whatever would secure them...to each other, and to metal and plastic bits and other harnasses in the fairing.Now they dont bounce constantly inside the fairing, and so far, no problems. I think everyone should do this, as a preventative measure. Wont cost much except your time!
V7Goose Posted May 5, 2008 #10 Posted May 5, 2008 Hey guys...I have read about this problem and so far, mine has worked fine. Its a 2007 RSV with around 4700 miles now. One thing that may...repeat MAY...have helped. The first time I split the fairing and noticed all those round connectors, hanging loosely in the fairing. That dont look good to me! So I used about a dozen zip-ties and secured all of them to whatever would secure them...to each other, and to metal and plastic bits and other harnasses in the fairing.Now they dont bounce constantly inside the fairing, and so far, no problems. I think everyone should do this, as a preventative measure. Wont cost much except your time! All those round plugs in the fairng are supposed to be secured together in a re-useable zip-tie mounted to the fairing. Just FYI. Goose
chollahan Posted May 5, 2008 #11 Posted May 5, 2008 Well, you can throw me into this mix as well. My problems started this past Friday. I had previously took EVERYTHING off of the front to tighten up the head nut. We were taking off for a trip to Kerrville and noticed that about 10 minutes from the house the radio would cut out occasionally and then quit workin all together. So I left it off till Saturday. It was working fine and figured I had a loose wire or I had gotten something wet when I washed it before our trip. well, Sunday, on our way back home, I notived that the squelch display was showing up, even though I had not turned the CB on. My CB would come on on its own and I would loose all control on then radio with teh exception of volume. I am gonna crack it tonight and make sure some dielectric grease fixes the problem.
philmartin Posted May 5, 2008 #12 Posted May 5, 2008 Mine didn't work even after I cleaned all the connections. The fuse behind the lower fairing was ok. What I didn't know was that there is another fuse for the audio in the second fuse bank behind the side panel. Replaced that blown fuse and it's been working great ever since.
V7Goose Posted May 5, 2008 #13 Posted May 5, 2008 Well, you can throw me into this mix as well. My problems started this past Friday. I had previously took EVERYTHING off of the front to tighten up the head nut. We were taking off for a trip to Kerrville and noticed that about 10 minutes from the house the radio would cut out occasionally and then quit workin all together. So I left it off till Saturday. It was working fine and figured I had a loose wire or I had gotten something wet when I washed it before our trip. well, Sunday, on our way back home, I notived that the squelch display was showing up, even though I had not turned the CB on. My CB would come on on its own and I would loose all control on then radio with teh exception of volume. I am gonna crack it tonight and make sure some dielectric grease fixes the problem. Re-seat the plugs several times before you grease them - the problem with the plugs is poor pin contact due to oxidation, so you want to rub them clean by plugging and unplugging them a few times before you grease them up. Goose
Guest kozman01 Posted May 5, 2008 #14 Posted May 5, 2008 Well, you can throw me into this mix as well. My problems started this past Friday. I had previously took EVERYTHING off of the front to tighten up the head nut. We were taking off for a trip to Kerrville and noticed that about 10 minutes from the house the radio would cut out occasionally and then quit workin all together. So I left it off till Saturday. It was working fine and figured I had a loose wire or I had gotten something wet when I washed it before our trip. well, Sunday, on our way back home, I notived that the squelch display was showing up, even though I had not turned the CB on. My CB would come on on its own and I would loose all control on then radio with teh exception of volume. Same EXACT thing just started happening to me yesterday. 07 RSV with 2400 miles. I've never split the fairing for anything though.
Guest tx2sturgis Posted May 5, 2008 #15 Posted May 5, 2008 Re-seat the plugs several times before you grease them - the problem with the plugs is poor pin contact due to oxidation, so you want to rub them clean by plugging and unplugging them a few times before you grease them up. Goose Hey Goose, thats called 'cycling' the connectors...ironic huh? As far as my connectors being secured with reusable ties, well they were...sorta...none of the ties were cinched down tight, so all the connectors were free to bounce around loosely. Of course I tightend them down, but also added more zipties incase the original ones backed off again. Maybe there were never tightened...dont know, dont care...the new zipties I put on are holding fine. Im certainly knocking on wood that I dont have any problems...I'll post about it if I do!
BradT Posted May 6, 2008 #16 Posted May 6, 2008 My radio unit acts up on my 99 occasionally. I have tried the grease on the connectors with out an improvement. If I shut the CB on and on a couple times it normally comes back. Acts up about 5-6 times per year. Brad
James Ardrey Posted May 15, 2008 #17 Posted May 15, 2008 I said that I would update everyone when I discovered the mystery of my audio being possessed. Reiterating that my audio system started cycling through all the functions at will and I was unable to control it completely including attempts to turn it off or on. It would even go off and come on at will. I split the faring and did the dialectic grease routine to no avail. Sometimes the FM portion would work perfectly w/ engine off or at idle. It would act up as soon as I started riding or revved the engine. Since Dec. 07 the dealer put 2 brains in. It worked perfectly until about 3 wks. ago after the first brain. They replaced it a second time and I made it about 5 mi and it started all over again. I put it in the shop about 2 wks ago for diagnostic. They determined that the stator was faulty. That it was producing twice the normal amps, 30 amps. and 3 and a half amps over battery amperage @ idle. That it increased significantly @ higher rpm and that the regulator was unable to bring it down to normal limits. That it was probably overcoming the diods in the audio thus causing the system to act up. They put another regulator in with the same results ruling out the regulator and 2 other 2nd gens were producing normal amperage. Long story short they replaced the stator and at least today the audio is working perfectly. The original stator did have burnt and melted windings I saw w\ my own eyes. The mechanic said that with some of the windings melted together that it lowered resistance which probably caused the increased production of amperage. The service mgr said that when he called Yamaha regarding the 30 amp output they acted like he must be crazy but they sent the new stator anyway. Like Yamaha it didn't make sense to me as I have never heard of a stator on any mc especially the Venture over charging. Maybe some of you have had that experience but I would have never found the problem because there were no other symptoms to conclude that the stator was over charging. It sounded more like the voltage regulator to me but low and behold it is working perfectly now. We will see over time but those of you that have similar symptoms and all the fixes discussed on this sight does not work you may check your stator. My mechanic has 20+ yrs with Yamaha and I trust him with my bike emphatically especially with warranty work. Otherwise I do most of the maintenance myself. Good luck!
shooter3001 Posted May 15, 2008 #18 Posted May 15, 2008 My radio started acting up also. 2007 RSV, 3800 miles. Was going down the road, turned on the radio, and nothing, blank screen. Pulled off the road, turned ignition off and then back on, pushed radio on button, and radio came on. The last couple of days now when I first started the bike I turned on the radio and it came on so I turned it back off. Got going down the road, turned radio on and nothing again. Got to the corner, turned ignition off and then back on and radio started working again. It did it again this morning so I rode right over to the dealership and showed them. Wrench seemed to think it is in the ignition switch but he is going to call Yamaha Tech at Yamaha and see if they have seen this problem before. I'll keep you posted when I get an answer from the dealer.
KingPin006 Posted July 1, 2008 #19 Posted July 1, 2008 Ok its my turn, stereo's been acting up on and off for a couple of weeks now but it really got bad on the weekend. It only seems to happen when I have been listening to it fairly loud and it gets warm and then i hit a bump, from that point on it acts up until it cools down. It will turn on / off the display will fade then the CB will turn on/off and the speakers will crackle then the station will change all kinds of goofy things. 2008 RSV 5300 miles.
Freebird Posted July 1, 2008 #20 Posted July 1, 2008 Sounds like you need to split the fairing, unplug all the big connectors and add a bit of dielectric grease. Since the bike is so new, you may want to let the dealer handle it but I just don't have the patience for that.
Venturing Sole Posted July 1, 2008 #21 Posted July 1, 2008 I had similar problems for the first time on my 2006 with about 20,000 miles. On the way to Freebird's Maintenance Day and the return trip. Intermitent loss of control of the radio remote. Buttons wouldn't change stations or turn CB on or off. Only volume worked reliably, none of the other buttons. By the time I got home, nothing was working except volume. I split the fairing, pulled the connector and reseated it. Problem solved. I ride on some terribly bumpy roads to/from work. I figure the bumps wiggled it loose over time.
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