Greetings from the road update

[Yoopermoose]

In Rocky Mountain House AB. Trip milage so far is 7600 miles. Rear tire is toast, replacing in Calgary on Monday at 8800 for the tire. No issues on SVTC except for tire. I have not seen one other SVTC or Eluder on the entire trip. Lots of interest from other riders though. Gas milage is averaging 40 now. (Going slower in Canada) Pic is from Columbia Ice Field between Banff and Jasper.

 

 

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[Bubber]

Very cool. Keep the pictures coming.

 

Bubber

aka Steve

[djh3]

Oh my 8800 miles on a tire could get expensive if you travel much. From the odds and ends I have picked up on the rear tire is there is like only one manufacture of it due to odd ball size or something.

[cowpuc]

WOWZY WOW WOW WOW ,,, GORGEOUS GORGEOUS GORGEOUS PICS YOOP!!!!!! Your making this Troll (no ya bunch of lop eared VR forum varmints, NOT troll as in forum troll = troll as in the troll "under" the bridge that separates @Yoopermoose 's part of Michigan from our part of Michigan ) really proud brother = AWESOME ride along!!!

Thank you!!

Hope you have as much fun with your new tire as you did with the one you just wore off my friend!!!!

[cowpuc]

Oh my 8800 miles on a tire could get expensive if you travel much. From the odds and ends I have picked up on the rear tire is there is like only one manufacture of it due to odd ball size or something.

 

Yep,, knowing how hard my Nephews Strat was on the rear tire and seeing the size on the new one, I could not help but ask about the cost of a replacement when we rode em last year at Sturgis.. The rep looked one up,, sure enough,, 575 bucks ( you could actually by the wheel itself cheaper than the tire).. Then Honda configured the new Wing with the same size tire and offered 2 options for tire selections (followed the unveiling there very closely too) and the prices came down considerably.. I think the last time I looked you could grab one for under 3 bills = just a little more than a new E-4 for an older Venture... @Yoopermoose , does this sound about right for what you ended up paying for a replacement?

[CaseyJ955]

Fantastic pics! Looks like a great ride and what a view.

 

Maybe you can be the first to take a Gen3 to the darkside

[RandyR]

Ahem...

 

That looks like one might find an emergency replacement tire at the John Deere dealer?

 

Would we still call that the darkside? or what?

[Condor]

Yep,, knowing how hard my Nephews Strat was on the rear tire and seeing the size on the new one, I could not help but ask about the cost of a replacement when we rode em last year at Sturgis.. The rep looked one up,, sure enough,, 575 bucks ( you could actually by the wheel itself cheaper than the tire).. Then Honda configured the new Wing with the same size tire and offered 2 options for tire selections (followed the unveiling there very closely too) and the prices came down considerably.. I think the last time I looked you could grab one for under 3 bills = just a little more than a new E-4 for an older Venture... Yoopermoose , does this sound about right for what you ended up paying for a replacement?

 

With that kind of money, and the low mileage, I'm wondering if going to the dark side on the rear might be an option. Those that have, on their 2ndGens have reported great mileage. In the 20K-25K range. Might be something to look into?? We used to have a fairly active 'dark side' group here on the board. I bet they'd know... I also bet the cost would be 20% of what the stealers are trying to pull out of the OEM/MC. I've never considered going that direction 'cause I just don't put that many miles on the odo, but for someone who does a car tire might be the answer... :confused07:

[Yoopermoose]

Yep,, knowing how hard my Nephews Strat was on the rear tire and seeing the size on the new one, I could not help but ask about the cost of a replacement when we rode em last year at Sturgis.. The rep looked one up,, sure enough,, 575 bucks ( you could actually by the wheel itself cheaper than the tire).. Then Honda configured the new Wing with the same size tire and offered 2 options for tire selections (followed the unveiling there very closely too) and the prices came down considerably.. I think the last time I looked you could grab one for under 3 bills = just a little more than a new E-4 for an older Venture... @Yoopermoose , does this sound about right for what you ended up paying for a replacement?

 

I have had some issues getting service on this bike. Arranged for the 4K service w oil change in Reno 3 weeks prior to the trip and on my ride into Reno got a text from the dealer stating they didn’t have the oil (15w50 Yamalube synthetic). service manager blamed parts manager for F up. Yamaha will be hearing about that dealership. Then when I realized I was going to need a tire on the road I started calling dealerships in Calgary figuring that’s where it needed to be changed. 1st dealer stated they couldn’t get a tire for 10 days, second dealer didn’t return any calls or texts. So I figured it might be a Canada supply issue and ordered one from a dealer in Williston ND. $359 plus installation. However now it has become obvious that the tire will not make it that far so I stopped at a dealer in Rocky Mountain House AB who told me he could get a tire overnight (WTF?) but he was closed on Monday and we have bob sledding scheduled in Calgary on Tues AM. He did call another shop and arranged for them to get the tire ordered and scheduled for installation on Monday. Yamaha will hear about that in a positive way. So I don’t know how much this’ll cost yet, I’m probably gonna be stuck with the tire ordered in Williston also. My riding partner had problems with his Harley on July 3rd, we pulled into the dealership at 5pm and they kept the shop open and repaired his bike on the spot. 8800 miles on a touring bike sucks but I think the heat in Arizona and Nevada ate a lot of tread. My take on this is I love the bike but if Yamaha can’t get a better support network for “transcontinental touring” I will be going back to Harley.

 

 

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[Yoopermoose]

With that kind of money, and the low mileage, I'm wondering if going to the dark side on the rear might be an option. Those that have, on their 2ndGens have reported great mileage. In the 20K-25K range. Might be something to look into?? We used to have a fairly active 'dark side' group here on the board. I bet they'd know... I also bet the cost would be 20% of what the stealers are trying to pull out of the OEM/MC. I've never considered going that direction 'cause I just don't put that many miles on the odo, but for someone who does a car tire might be the answer... :confused07:

 

I talked to some Wingers on the road and one guy was running a car tire on the rear and a rear tire on the front. Said he regularly gets 30k on his rear but said one time when he was aggressively hitting the twisties the cords separated (someone asked what the shiney specks on his tire was). So don’t know if that’s the answer either.

 

 

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[Condor]

I talked to some Wingers on the road and one guy was running a car tire on the rear and a rear tire on the front. Said he regularly gets 30k on his rear but said one time when he was aggressively hitting the twisties the cords separated (someone asked what the shiney specks on his tire was). So don’t know if that’s the answer either.

 

 

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Well yeah.... Twisty's are a known problem, but more for handling because of the flatness of the tread, not for mechanical problems... Your's is the first I've heard of one coming apart, but probably not as frequent as Metzler's tossing caps. Highway slabbing is a different story, and where a tourer will rack up most of the miles. So it still may be a good alternative then dealing with Robber Barons....

[cowpuc]

No idea if it will help here or not but this may be of interest to someone following this thread. My good friend and brother jakester has been running the darkside for a good while now and has had GREAT success with them.. Hey Bill,, if you get this,, just wanted you to know that I did a LOT of research (including measuring up the subframe on my Yam to see if I could make it happen by doing some altering) and simply could not come up with an economical means of getting there on the 1st Gen brother!! Anyway,, here's some input into,,,, The Darkside

We also discuss the new Yam that you are riding Yoop!! Obviously,, LOTS of fun out there at Sturgis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Condor]

No idea if it will help here or not but this may be of interest to someone following this thread. My good friend and brother jakester has been running the darkside for a good while now and has had GREAT success with them.. Hey Bill,, if you get this,, just wanted you to know that I did a LOT of research (including measuring up the subframe on my Yam to see if I could make it happen by doing some altering) and simply could not come up with an economical means of getting there on the 1st Gen brother!! Anyway,, here's some input into,,,, The Darkside.

 

Thanks Puc... Kinda supports my thoughts. Too bad about the 1stGen's.... I guess the twisties are subject to the brand and type tire. I wonder if the 195/55R would fit the new V-Twins???

[Uturn 780]

Good to see it was just rain up there, can turn to snow anytime in the summer. Hiway 93 from Lake Louise to Jasper is a favorite ride of mine, Usually go in June or Sept to avoid the motorhomes.

[Yoopermoose]

Good to see it was just rain up there, can turn to snow anytime in the summer. Hiway 93 from Lake Louise to Jasper is a favorite ride of mine, Usually go in June or Sept to avoid the motorhomes.

 

Was 42 F when we went through, was thinking ice though. Banff was nuts with people, Jasper tolerable. Most beautiful ride ever and from there on 11 to Abraham Lake was also awesome. Would like to come back in winter.

 

 

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[XV1100SE]

...= just a little more than a new E-4 for an older Venture... ...

 

I was going to put E4's on my 2nd Gen but there was only fitment for one wheel, not both. I went with E3's which I can get 25-30,000 km on a set. Can't imagine replacing tires every 10,000 miles (or less).

[Du-Rron]

I was going to put E4's on my 2nd Gen but there was only fitment for one wheel, not both. I went with E3's which I can get 25-30,000 km on a set. Can't imagine replacing tires every 10,000 miles (or less).

 

And that is just like 15,534 miles to 18,641 miles.

[Patch]

I have had some issues getting service on this bike. Arranged for the 4K service w oil change in Reno 3 weeks prior to the trip and on my ride into Reno got a text from the dealer stating they didn’t have the oil (15w50 Yamalube synthetic). service manager blamed parts manager for F up. Yamaha will be hearing about that dealership. Then when I realized I was going to need a tire on the road I started calling dealerships in Calgary figuring that’s where it needed to be changed. 1st dealer stated they couldn’t get a tire for 10 days, second dealer didn’t return any calls or texts. So I figured it might be a Canada supply issue and ordered one from a dealer in Williston ND. $359 plus installation. However now it has become obvious that the tire will not make it that far so I stopped at a dealer in Rocky Mountain House AB who told me he could get a tire overnight (WTF?) but he was closed on Monday and we have bob sledding scheduled in Calgary on Tues AM. He did call another shop and arranged for them to get the tire ordered and scheduled for installation on Monday. Yamaha will hear about that in a positive way. So I don’t know how much this’ll cost yet, I’m probably gonna be stuck with the tire ordered in Williston also. My riding partner had problems with his Harley on July 3rd, we pulled into the dealership at 5pm and they kept the shop open and repaired his bike on the spot. 8800 miles on a touring bike sucks but I think the heat in Arizona and Nevada ate a lot of tread. My take on this is I love the bike but if Yamaha can’t get a better support network for “transcontinental touring” I will be going back to Harley.

 

 

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And you didn't think of reaching out through the forum? Hmm

 

It would have been a pleasure to render assistance. Anyways if you need help while pushing through CowTown PM me

 

Stay out of downtown it's our Stampede time

[Yoopermoose]

And you didn't think of reaching out through the forum? Hmm

 

It would have been a pleasure to render assistance. Anyways if you need help while pushing through CowTown PM me

 

Stay out of downtown it's our Stampede time

 

Sheesh if I only knew. Went to G&W cycles today to get the tire done. Trudy and Dave treated me first class! Blackfoot told me 10 days to get a tire and Pro-Am wouldn’t return any calls. Stampede looks nuts, like NASCAR with hooves. Going bob sledding at Winsport tomorrow 10:30 then heading to Medicine Hat after.

 

 

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[Patch]

Sheesh if I only knew. Went to G&W cycles today to get the tire done. Trudy and Dave treated me first class! Blackfoot told me 10 days to get a tire and Pro-Am wouldn’t return any calls. Stampede looks nuts, like NASCAR with hooves. Going bob sledding at Winsport tomorrow 10:30 then heading to Medicine Hat after.

 

 

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Brother I could have shouted at you from my place.

Yep upper crowd at Blackfoot, they mean well tho?

 

You will find Cypress hills a nice visit and good roads as well. Lot of decent small towns along the way. Our speed limits are high here so might be time to stretch her out a bit, an easy 130 klm and you'll still have cars wanting to pass you, anyways you can see for miles if there any police on the road.

Wish I could fire up and join you through the province!

[Patch]

Well looking like a wet one tomorrow, likely you will want to ride through. If not we can share coffee at Lake Chestermere 20 minutes east of the city anytime after 1:00