Freebird Posted June 5, 2018 #1 Posted June 5, 2018 I'm going to finally order a new horn for my RSV. I've used high power electrics but never the WOLOs and etc. that many of you go with. So my question, is there any significant difference between the WOLO and the Stebel? I know that Harbor Freight sells something similar also but I will most likely order one of those two.
slowrollwv Posted June 5, 2018 #2 Posted June 5, 2018 Don I have used both and can't see any difference in them. They are both 139db so they are loud and look almost the same.
SilvrT Posted June 5, 2018 #3 Posted June 5, 2018 I've also used both and didn't notice any difference .... both are LOUD.
XV1100SE Posted June 5, 2018 #4 Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) If there was room to install one of these....https://hornblasters.com/collections/complete-kits/Train-Horn-Kit (train air horn) They have what looks like a Stebel but show it as 123db Recent horn review - https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/ Edited June 5, 2018 by XV1100SE
bongobobny Posted June 5, 2018 #5 Posted June 5, 2018 To my knowledge, they are the same OEM with the difference being in the plastic chrome only...
grubsie Posted June 5, 2018 #6 Posted June 5, 2018 Which model Wolo or Stebel horns are used? Oh and Freebird, thank you. Just one more item for me to open my wallet for.
CaseyJ955 Posted June 5, 2018 #7 Posted June 5, 2018 I'm going to finally order a new horn for my RSV. I've used high power electrics but never the WOLOs and etc. that many of you go with. So my question, is there any significant difference between the WOLO and the Stebel? I know that Harbor Freight sells something similar also but I will most likely order one of those two. I have used both integral compressor horns on various applications, I think any real world difference is negligable at best. I had an unbranded version that was about as loud but lasted all of a year. I have a Wolo now on my Vmax and its plenty loud. Because of mounting limitations I had to seperate the integral unit and add a length of hose. The compressor and relay are mounted just forward of the air box in the pocket previously enjoyed by the front OEM coils and the horn, which now weighs very little, is mounted between the front downpipes. It would have been aesthetically tragic to try and mount the intact unit but grand if there is room on whichever bike its goong onto. What I feared about a train horn (mounting issues aside) or multi-trumpet design is that if it were really loud enough it might spook someone into running me down in a panicked bid to escapt the train. Im going to try the duel tone electric Hella (I think) horns on the Venture.
luvmy40 Posted June 5, 2018 #8 Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I've got the Blazer BH103h/l horns on The Beast. They are rated at 132 Db and they are LOUD. They blend in nice with the black plastics as well. I got mine as a pair at AZ but I don't see the pair listed anymore. http://www.blazer-international.com/productdetail.php?itemno=BH103FBL&cat=12 Edited June 6, 2018 by luvmy40
WIZ Posted June 5, 2018 #9 Posted June 5, 2018 The two stebels that I now have on my bike are definitely louder than the two wool horns that I had on it before. Ron
gmarshall Posted June 6, 2018 #10 Posted June 6, 2018 I've installed two wolo's from harbor freight. Great price and even comes with the relay.
slowrollwv Posted June 6, 2018 #11 Posted June 6, 2018 The two stebels that I now have on my bike are definitely louder than the two wool horns that I had on it before. Ron Ron I heard something louder than both of your horns on the way home. I thought you and your wife were going to jump off the bike when that truck tire blew beside you.
WIZ Posted June 6, 2018 #12 Posted June 6, 2018 Chuck, You're right that was very loud, I'm just glad it was his right side tire and not his left because it started flying apart right away. Ron
snyper316 Posted June 6, 2018 #13 Posted June 6, 2018 Here is what Run and they get attention big time!!! I have had to use them 3 times now. One time in Walmart parking lot and everyone outside was trying to find the big rig!!:rotfl:This is just a short Toot and putting the phone down by the horn I should have got one in front of the bike somewhere.
snyper316 Posted June 6, 2018 #14 Posted June 6, 2018 I bought mine off of Ebay you can get a truck stop but, they want like $74.99 for the one I found. https://www.ebay.com/p/Wolo-619-Big-Bad-Max-Horn-Black-12-Volt/1211820789?iid=202161659545&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52569%26meid%3D3a0b50b86bb14d42a0a44a7dcfea26e2%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D331894779280%26itm%3D202161659545&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
djh3 Posted June 6, 2018 #15 Posted June 6, 2018 I have had the Stebel, current bike has a WOLO and I have 2 of the e-bay knock off jobs that are like $15. All of them sound about the same. Have not had a lick of problems out of any of them, even the Chinese ones. Shoot they are all probably made in the same place. Depending on what day it is as to what sticker goes on it.
dfitzbiz Posted June 6, 2018 #17 Posted June 6, 2018 The two stebels that I now have on my bike are definitely louder than the two wool horns that I had on it before. Ron Ron, You should attach some pic's and mounting instructions for the horns on your RSV. The position between the engine V looks good and is out of the way.
Freebird Posted June 6, 2018 Author #18 Posted June 6, 2018 Well, I just ordered the chromed Stebel. I was lucky enough to choose the carbon_one mounting kit and wiring harness with a winning raffle ticket at MD so I'm all set. Should be here early next week.
WIZ Posted June 6, 2018 #19 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Here is the horns that I mounted in the V of the engine on both sides. I just used 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" x 1/8" aluminum angle and cut it to fit around the end of the twinkie cover and used the end bolt to secure it. Ron[ATTACH=CONFIG]112923[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]112924[/ATTACH] Edited June 6, 2018 by WIZ
BratmanXj Posted June 6, 2018 #20 Posted June 6, 2018 I found they fit very nicely under the right passenger floorboard where the two exhaust pipes come together.
XV1100SE Posted June 6, 2018 #21 Posted June 6, 2018 Don't have pictures with me but... I originally mounted one Stebel using Larry's (CarbonOne) bracket where the OEM horn went but switched to Charles' (SlowRollWV) mounts which put one Stebel on each side of the bike below and behind the passenger floorboards. Put the OEM horn back in place in the original location. Technically I have four horns operating (can't hear the OEM horns over the Stebel's). To power the two Stebel horns, I put a fuse block inside the passenger backrest and have separate power feed and relays for each horn. The fuse block also powers a USB port I put in my trunk to charge phones/cameras when riding and to power the trailer adapter.
Flyinfool Posted June 6, 2018 #22 Posted June 6, 2018 I still want to build this some day to have real train horns on my bike. The train horns that I have on my truck work REALLY well. This will plug into my 1 - 1/4 inch receiver hitch, and has tie downs to also be used to carry a cooler for day trips. It contains the 4 trumpets, air compressor, tank and all valves and plumbing for the system. In a pinch the air supply can be used to air up the tires on the bike. I will also have a mini reciever to be able to attach this to the tongue of my trailer to give me a place for the cooler and a good horn. The interesting thing with horns is the dB ratings, they are mostly all such BS. Most hons just give a dB rating and no other info. A dB rating without a distance is meaningless. Most car and bike horns that do give a distance have it well hidden because it is usually 4 inches. If someone is just 4 inches from the horn it is pretty much to late. When working with sound it is a logarithmic scale. This means that for every change of 3 dB you have doubled or halved the sound pressure level. The way sound travels thru air, every time you double the distance you loose 3 dB, or half of the volume. So if you are starting out at 120 dB at 4 inches, then you will have 117 dB at 8 inches. 114 at 16", and so on to get down to 99 dB (about 1/8 of the rated volume) at just 14 yards, Most people can yell at 100 dB and 14 yards is not very far away at driving speed. A train horn by federal specification must do 120 dB at 100 yards. That is LOUD. I used to work for a place that made parts for locomotives and the horns was one of our products. The test room was real interesting with a dozen train horns all blasting away at the same time. No one could possible survive in that room with the horns all blasting. There were many safeties in place to protect from the noise.
Freebird Posted June 10, 2018 Author #23 Posted June 10, 2018 Well, after riding a second gen for the most part of the past 19 years, I finally decided to give the air horn a try. I had dual Fiamm's mounted inside the fairing of the '99 and in spite of the fairing perhaps muffling them a bit, they were pretty loud. When a door prize ticket was pulled at MD with my number on it, I chose @Carbon_One horn bracket and wiring harness that was on the prize table. So, decided I may as well order a horn. Ended up going with the Stebel. Installed it this morning and it was very easy with Larry's kit. It is indeed loud. Now to see how long it lasts. I'm happy with it though.
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