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Posted (edited)

Having heard and seen many different evidences of how well and/or not so well that the new air cooled, belt driven, V-Twin Venture/Eluder is selling (having read accounts from reliable sources that, especially up in Canada, the new machine is sold out for 2018 but then seeing the complete opposite happening here locally) I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of statistics we might see in our club.. I have been watching with interest how the new Wing is performing in a similar poll on a big Wing site...

IMHO,, because the design and drive train selection for the new Venture actually came about by advice from the Star Touring Group,,, it would be interesting to hear how the new bike is doing in sales according to their group statistics too. If you, or someone you know, happens to be a member there - please feel free to comment on how things appear to be unfolding therein too... I realize that "Star Touring" is a closed site and, due to that,,, may also require their members to be tight lipped about such statistics.. If so,,, please abide by their rules and pay no attention to my request as I am just being nosey, my typical :detective: self and curious...

Hope this don't land me back in the penalty box with Dan and Fool but if it does,, oh well,,, at least I will be back on familiar ground and in good company!

THANKS FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION!!!!

Puc

Edited by cowpuc
Forgot to thank everyone for participating - my bad!!
Posted (edited)
Having heard and seen many different evidences of how well and/or not so well that the new air cooled, belt driven, V-Twin Venture/Eluder is selling (having read accounts from reliable sources that, especially up in Canada, the new machine is sold out for 2018 but then seeing the complete opposite happening here locally) I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of statistics we might see in our club.. I have been watching with interest how the new Wing is performing in a similar poll on a big Wing site...

IMHO,, because the design and drive train selection for the new Venture actually came about by advice from the Star Touring Group,,, it would be interesting to hear how the new bike is doing in sales according to their group statistics too. If you, or someone you know, happens to be a member there - please feel free to comment on how things appear to be unfolding therein too... I realize that "Star Touring" is a closed site and, due to that,,, may also require their members to be tight lipped about such statistics.. If so,,, please abide by their rules and pay no attention to my request as I am just being nosey, my typical :detective: self and curious...

Hope this don't land me back in the penalty box with Dan and Fool but if it does,, oh well,,, at least I will be back on familiar ground and in good company!

THANKS FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION!!!!

Puc

 

Puc, I have one difficulty with one of your poll selections. The one about Ventures/Eluders are sold out in my area. Yes...and no. Some dealers still have an Eluder. That actually was not the model in Ontario, in rare supply. It was the SVTC...so, my answer to that poll would be...Yes...for the SVTC. Still some Eluders on showroom floors around Toronto and greater area. There was one red SVTC I was watching in London, Ontario...but it now has a 500.00 hold deposit on it...so technically, it is also gone. That huge Yamaha dealer will be getting no more '18's this year...and is totally pissed off. I spoke with his wife...they are having great call-in traffic, on the SVTC's, but no bikes to offer those possible clients. What a situation to be in....terrible. All of the Eluders that I have been playfully monitoring around Toronto...are still alive on the showroom floors. I think Canadians are more into full tour..than baggers. Just my seeing what's happening on the Eluder front, in around Toronto.

 

Post Edit: This brings me to a pondering point. If you say that in your area, the uptake for the SVTC has been anemic...why would not Yamaha USA...TRANSFER those units out of American dealerships..and not fulfill demand north of the border?!? To have them sitting there...with people looking for one, in Ontario...this is plain nuts...look how long it took for Yamaha to fill my order...just nuts... Anyways, a thought...:)

Edited by YamahaParExcellence
Posted (edited)
Puc, I have one difficulty with one of your poll selections. The one about Ventures/Eluders are sold out in my area. Yes...and no. Some dealers still have an Eluder. That actually was not the model in Ontario, in rare supply. It was the SVTC...so, my answer to that poll would be...Yes...for the SVTC. Still some Eluders on showroom floors around Toronto and greater area. There was one red SVTC I was watching in London, Ontario...but it now has a 500.00 hold deposit on it...so technically, it is also gone. That huge Yamaha dealer will be getting no more '18's this year...and is totally pissed off. I spoke with his wife...they are having great call-in traffic, on the SVTC's, but no bikes to offer those possible clients. What a situation to be in....terrible. All of the Eluders that I have been playfully monitoring around Toronto...are still alive on the showroom floors. I think Canadians are more into full tour..than baggers. Just my seeing what's happening on the Eluder front, in around Toronto.

 

Post Edit: This brings me to a pondering point. If you say that in your area, the uptake for the SVTC has been anemic...why would not Yamaha USA...TRANSFER those units out of American dealerships..and not fulfill demand north of the border?!? To have them sitting there...with people looking for one, in Ontario...this is plain nuts...look how long it took for Yamaha to fill my order...just nuts... Anyways, a thought...:)

 

Good question Yamster... I really have no clue, never had a Yamaha franchise so I really am not sure how their Floor Plan lprotocol is set up.. All manufactures are different though so you really cant compare one to the other when it comes to wondering why one brand's dealership does it one way and another the other.. Case in point,,, a LOT of folks may not realize this but Polaris actually charges their dealerships hard cold cash for factory "demo's" done at the store. Just their fleet rate for bringing in the bikes is $3500 per Indian Head truck per day. A good way to tell how well a particular dealership is doing is to ask for their demo schedule - if they tell you they opted out of demo days routine - its probably cause their sales are down - sort of a negative of a Polaris .. On the other hand though,,, per HD's floor plan,,, those dealerships are VERY limited on the off names they are allowed in used bikes.. I stood and watched the Polaris Indian guys load up over 20 used HD's after a dealer auction and those scoots were headed for the used bike section floor space (the Polaris floor plan allows the dealerships to use the competitors brand for marketing puose - GREAT IDEA!!! and HUGE + for those franchises)...

Perhaps an more applicable franchise agreement protocol related to your question could be found with Honda.. Those dealerships are allowed to sell out of their specified district BUT - they are not allowed to ship outside of it.. If you go online and look up a new Wing, in Ebay lets say... If you find one from the store in Russelville AR and read their ad closely you will notice that they clearly state that the buyer MUST come to the store and pick up the new bike - they will not ship (I only mention the Russelville dealership cause I know they include their floor plan agreement language in thier ads - some Honda dealers do not include this and deal with it privately with each customer) - fact is,, if they did get caught shipping a bike out of district they would lose their franchise and Honda is very serious about it... That said,,, I do know for a fact that more then one new Wings have gone from Arkansas up to Canada because of the discounting that dealership offers BUT - ALL of those bikes were customer pickup and nothing to do with the manufacturer removing a scoot from one low selling spot to fulfill the demand in another zone...

Edited by cowpuc
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Good question Yamster... I really have no clue, never had a Yamaha franchise so I really am not sure how their Floor Plan lprotocol is set up.. All manufactures are different though so you really cant compare one to the other when it comes to wondering why one brand's dealership does it one way and another the other.. Case in point,,, a LOT of folks may not realize this but Polaris actually charges their dealerships hard cold cash for factory "demo's" done at the store. Just their fleet rate for bringing in the bikes is $3500 per Indian Head truck per day. A good way to tell how well a particular dealership is doing is to ask for their demo schedule - if they tell you they opted out of demo days routine - its probably cause their sales are down - sort of a negative of a Polaris .. On the other hand though,,, per HD's floor plan,,, those dealerships are VERY limited on the off names they are allowed in used bikes.. I stood and watched the Polaris Indian guys load up over 20 used HD's after a dealer auction and those scoots were headed for the used bike section floor space (the Polaris floor plan allows the dealerships to use the competitors brand for marketing puose - GREAT IDEA!!! and HUGE + for those franchises)...

Perhaps an more applicable franchise agreement protocol related to your question could be found with Honda.. Those dealerships are allowed to sell out of their specified district BUT - they are not allowed to ship outside of it.. If you go online and look up a new Wing, in Ebay lets say... If you find one from the store in Russelville AR and read their ad closely you will notice that they clearly state that the buyer MUST come to the store and pick up the new bike - they will not ship (I only mention the Russelville dealership cause I know they include their floor plan agreement language in thier ads - some Honda dealers do not include this and deal with it privately with each customer) - fact is,, if they did get caught shipping a bike out of district they would lose their franchise and Honda is very serious about it... That said,,, I do know for a fact that more then one new Wings have gone from Arkansas up to Canada because of the discounting that dealership offers BUT - ALL of those bikes were customer pickup and nothing to do with the manufacturer removing a scoot from one low selling spot to fulfill the demand in another zone...

 

Thanks for your thoughts, Puc. It could be all of the above, as you relate. Now...out for an early morning ride! Everybody have a great weekend!

Posted (edited)
Good question Yamster... I really have no clue, never had a Yamaha franchise so I really am not sure how their Floor Plan lprotocol is set up.. All manufactures are different though so you really cant compare one to the other when it comes to wondering why one brand's dealership does it one way and another the other.. Case in point,,, a LOT of folks may not realize this but Polaris actually charges their dealerships hard cold cash for factory "demo's" done at the store. Just their fleet rate for bringing in the bikes is $3500 per Indian Head truck per day. A good way to tell how well a particular dealership is doing is to ask for their demo schedule - if they tell you they opted out of demo days routine - its probably cause their sales are down - sort of a negative of a Polaris .. On the other hand though,,, per HD's floor plan,,, those dealerships are VERY limited on the off names they are allowed in used bikes.. I stood and watched the Polaris Indian guys load up over 20 used HD's after a dealer auction and those scoots were headed for the used bike section floor space (the Polaris floor plan allows the dealerships to use the competitors brand for marketing puose - GREAT IDEA!!! and HUGE + for those franchises)...

Perhaps an more applicable franchise agreement protocol related to your question could be found with Honda.. Those dealerships are allowed to sell out of their specified district BUT - they are not allowed to ship outside of it.. If you go online and look up a new Wing, in Ebay lets say... If you find one from the store in Russelville AR and read their ad closely you will notice that they clearly state that the buyer MUST come to the store and pick up the new bike - they will not ship (I only mention the Russelville dealership cause I know they include their floor plan agreement language in thier ads - some Honda dealers do not include this and deal with it privately with each customer) - fact is,, if they did get caught shipping a bike out of district they would lose their franchise and Honda is very serious about it... That said,,, I do know for a fact that more then one new Wings have gone from Arkansas up to Canada because of the discounting that dealership offers BUT - ALL of those bikes were customer pickup and nothing to do with the manufacturer removing a scoot from one low selling spot to fulfill the demand in another zone...

 

I never knew that the manufacturers charge their dealer network for Demo Days. I thought that it would be the Parent Manufacturer that would promote that, and cover all the costs, bikes, food, whatever.....being it is THEIR product that the dealers are hawking. Interesting,...now I understand why some dealers, as you say, "We decided not to have a demo day this year...". I just thought that they couldn't be bothered with the logistics of the weekend. I also wonder how many sales are REALLY generated by these Demo Rides. Most of the You-Tube bloggers, and others that had video camera's said right out, they were there for the free opportunity of 'reviewing' the whatever ride and manufacturer. I didn't hear ONE person...doing any of these Yamaha Days in the different States..getting off of the bike...and stating,' "Thanks for being aboard with me today...I'm now going to go in and talk Turkey with a dealer sales rep." Not one...not ever. It was...."...oh.I like this...oh...I don't like that...oh----->...I'm going to stay with my present ride." Thank's Yamaha Team for the freebie...See ya..."

 

Yes, I know there are a couple or more, of Forum Members who have stated, that they went out on the SVTC, on one of those Demo Rides, and as a result...in fact did purchase their own. Reading that one did so, and moved from his Victory. So..obviously it does draw some legitimate traffic...but then again...what is the percentage of Tire Kickers, and hungry Hot Dog Eater's. vs. riders coming to that Demo Day, really wanting to demo a bike they **are** entertaining to move to. Makes you wonder, or at least myself.....

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My local dealer, Ron Ayers Motorsports of Greenville NC, has a red Venture and a silver Eluder on the floor. They are having their 27thAnnual Open House May 25 & 26th. Yamaha Demo Day Rides and I think Honda will have demo rides also.

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My local dealer, Ron Ayers Motorsports of Greenville NC, has a red Venture and a silver Eluder on the floor. They are having their 27thAnnual Open House May 25 & 26th. Yamaha Demo Day Rides and I think Honda will have demo rides also.

 

I'm on their site now...and looking at it. They have great and detailed pictures of it from all angles, and feature shots. Well done...!

Posted
My local dealer, Ron Ayers Motorsports of Greenville NC, has a red Venture and a silver Eluder on the floor. They are having their 27thAnnual Open House May 25 & 26th. Yamaha Demo Day Rides and I think Honda will have demo rides also.

Maybe I should ride down there? I’m just north of Charlotte. You gonna be there today?

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Additional Features

 

 

  • LED LIGHTING: Long rides don’t stop when the sun goes down, so the Star Venture features all-LED lighting to maximize illumination. LED brake lights and turn signals boost visibility, while the quad LED headlight assembly punches a huge hole in the darkness with crisp, bright light. And since LED technology uses less power and lasts longer than traditional bulbs, Star Venture owners can spend more time concentrating on riding.
  • GENEROUS LUGGAGE SYSTEM: Take it all with you. Star Venture features a cavernous 37.3 gallons of volume across the saddlebags, Tour Truck and upper and lower faring storage compartments. Plus, the Transcontinental Option Package offers an additional pair of easily accessible passenger storage compartments, boosting storage capacity to over 38 gallons.
  • ELECTRIC LUGGAGE LOCKS: To provide both convenience and security, the USB-equipped fairing storage compartment, saddlebags and Tour Trunk all feature electric locking lids straight from the factory.
  • SMART KEY SYSTEM: Simplify every ride thanks to Yamaha’s Smart Key system. The remote key fob only needs to be in the rider’s pocket in order to access the luggage system, start the bike, and ride.
  • CONFIDENCE-INSPIRING WARRANTY: Star Venture riders can hit the road knowing that Yamaha is behind them for years to come, thanks to a full 5 Year Warranty Coverage (1 year limited factory warranty + 4 years Yamaha Extended Service = 5 years coverage). Certain exclusions apply, see terms of each for details.
  • TRANSCONTINENTAL OPTION PACKAGE SPECIAL FEATURES: The Star Venture Transcontinental Option Package mounts a range of upgraded features, including supplemental LED fog lamps, an additional pair of storage compartments for the passenger complete with a USB port, and an alarmed security system to keep your investment safe from threats, whether you’re riding around town or around the country.

Chassis / Suspension

 

 

  • AGILE, HIGH-RIGIDITY FRAME: The Star Venture is built around an advanced hybrid chassis designed for agile, confidence-inspiring handling. The main steel frame makes use of casting and forgings to place material exactly where needed for optimal rigidity, while the rear subframe makes use of Yamaha’s advanced aluminum die-casting techniques to reduce weight and centralize mass even further. The balanced chassis gives the Venture a combination of solid straight-line stability with agility on the curviest of roads.
  • CENTRALIZED MASS: Thanks to the semi-dry-sump engine, advanced frame design and careful positioning of major components, turn-in and direction changes require less effort, for a more engaging ride with less fatigue. And you can feel the difference every ride, as the Venture requires a massive 22 percent less effort to lift off the side-stand than similar models in the class.
  • PLUSH, LARGE-DIAMETER FORK: A huge 46 mm telescopic fork features damping and spring rates selected to offer an ideal balance of bump absorption and high speed handling, all without losing a light and responsive road feel. The Star Venture is a true riders’ machine that combines real-world road-holding performance with the plush comfort expected from a luxury touring motorcycle.
  • EASILY ADJUSTABLE LINKAGE-TYPE SHOCK: The rear suspension system features a linkage-type, gas-pressurized, remote reservoir shock to create a compact design with a plush, controlled feel. As with the front fork, damping and spring rates were carefully considered to give the Star Venture an ideal balance of comfort and road feedback, with convenient tuning thanks to a remote preload adjuster.
  • POWERFUL LINKED BRAKES WITH ABS: Around the block or around the country, the Star Venture gives its rider unbeatable braking confidence thanks to high-performance, triple-disc brakes featuring advanced electronic control. Yamaha’s Unified Braking System dynamically adjusts front and rear brake force balance in real time to ensure linear braking feel and power. And Yamaha’s refined antilock braking system (ABS) prevents wheel lock-ups when dealing with reduced traction road conditions.
  • STYLISH MACHINED ALLOY WHEELS: Lightweight front and rear aluminum alloy wheels are finished with machined detailing that highlights the combination of lightness and strength. Up front, the 18 inch wheel features a 130/70 radial tire for light and neutral steering feel, while the rear 16 inch rim mounts a huge 200/55 radial for stunning style and road holding.
  • ADVANCED TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM: Star Venture features advanced sensors in each wheel, which constantly update the instrument panel with current tire pressure data—and alert the rider if pressures fall for any reason—for confidence on long tours without the inconvenience of checking tire pressure before each ride.
  • CLASS LEADING FUEL CAPACITY: The Star Venture features a huge 6.6 gallon fuel tank for generous range, easily reaching 200 miles between fuel stops. Riders now have the freedom to journey further than ever.
  • ADJUSTABLE ERGONOMICS: A luxury touring machine should provide easily customized comfort, and the Star Venture has you covered. Both hand levers offer five-position span adjustments. A deeply padded seat – with an unladen height of only 27.4 inches – makes planting both feet on the pavement easy, and it features a rider backrest with three-position fore and aft adjustment. The passenger backrest is over 17 inches wide for plenty of room to move around, and passenger floorboards can be adjusted between two positions.
  • STYLISH FULL COVERAGE FAIRING: Featuring a stylish full-coverage fairing with just the right amount of classic American muscle car attitude, Star Venture provides the ultimate in style and wind protection touring riders demand. And thanks to the frame-mounted design, steering remains light and neutral compared to competitors’ fork-mounted designs.
  • AERODYNAMIC EXCELLENCE: The Star Venture offers a range of aerodynamic tune-ability, with an electrically adjustable windscreen that offers over 3.5 inches of vertical adjustment. External visors at the middle of the fairing can be adjusted to direct cold air away from the riders on chilly rides, or to direct cooling airflow inwards for warmer weather. And ducted vents inside the lower fairing can be opened or closed to further customize airflow for changing conditions.
  • HEATED LUXURY COMES STANDARD: No matter if the ride calls for a chilly morning or a frozen mountain pass, Star Venture keeps both rider and passenger comfortable thanks to an array of heated contact points, including grips, rider seat, rider backrest, passenger seat and passenger backrest—all standard.

Engine

 

 

  • HIGH TECH MEETS HIGH TORQUE: A massive 1854 cc air-cooled V-twin powers Star Venture with a class-leading 126 pound-feet of pavement-bending torque, for effortless passing power even when fully loaded. And while the competition promotes their “” four-valve cylinder heads, Yamaha has been refining the four-valve, twin-spark-plug, pent-roof engine design for nearly 20 years, delivering exceptional power and drivability that leaves the rest of the class in the dust.
  • SMOOTH RUNNING AND CHARISMATIC: The Star Venture engine delivers huge torque with a thrilling V-twin pulse that brings excitement to every ride. And thanks to lightweight forged alloy pistons, carefully-tuned counter-balancers and advanced composite engine mounts, the Star Venture creates a luxuriously smooth ride ideal for days in the saddle without fatigue.
  • SIX-SPEED TRANSMISSION: Developed specifically for the needs of long-distance touring, the six-speed gearbox features ratios chosen to make the most of the huge low-end torque available from the 1854 cc engine, for brisk acceleration in lower gears and relaxed highway cruising—at 75 mph in sixth gear, the Star Venture will run at an ultra-smooth 2750 rpm.
  • YAMAHA SURE-PARK SYSTEM: Star Venture tackles big-mileage trips without breaking a sweat, and thanks to the Yamaha Sure-Park System, even the smallest maneuvers of your ride are equally confidence-inspiring. Controlled from the handlebar, a small electric motor provides forward and reverse drive to handle tricky parking situations, especially on rough or poor traction surfaces.
  • INTEGRATED OIL TANK AND COOLER: The Star Venture engine features a semi-dry-sump design, lowering the effective center of gravity by allowing the engine to sit lower in the frame, and the external oil tank is integrated into the aluminum subframe to centralize mass and reduce weight. And to maintain ideal engine temperatures, a compact oil cooler is hidden between the front down tubes.
  • RIDE-BY-WIRE ENGINE CONTROL: Star Venture features Yamaha’s Chip Controlled Throttle, or YCC-T®, a ride-by-wire throttle control system that converts the rider’s grip input into precise throttle control, for impeccable engine response and enhanced levels of refinement from the high-torque engine.
  • ADVANCED RIDER ASSISTING TECHNOLOGY: With the advent of YCC-T, Star Venture is able to mount a variety of advanced rider assistance technologies, including Yamaha D-Mode and traction control. D-Mode allows the rider to choose from two different throttle response settings: an ultra-smooth touring mode, and a sport mode for sharper response. The traction control system helps prevent wheel spin when dealing with reduced traction road conditions—and Yamaha is the first manufacturer to offer this type of system in the full-dress touring class, too.
  • INTEGRATED CRUISE CONTROL: Yamaha’s refined cruise control system comes standard, using YCC-T ride-by-wire technology to provide a convenient push-button solution to ease long highway jaunts, for less fatigue and improved fuel economy.
  • ASSIST AND SLIPPER CLUTCH: Yamaha’s assist and slipper clutch uses internal ramps to provide additional clamping force under acceleration along with the proven advantages of a back-torque-reducing, slipper-style clutch. This two-way design uses lighter clutch springs to reduce clutch lever effort, and provides smoother deceleration, especially when downshifting aggressively.
  • CAREFULLY TUNED TWIN EXHAUST: The Star Venture’s exhaust system features a twin-muffler design with the throaty V-twin exhaust note that custom touring fans seek. Yamaha carefully developed the exhaust tone throughout the entire rpm range in collaboration with the audiophiles at Yamaha Music, for a thrilling soundtrack on every ride.
  • ELECTRICAL POWER TO SPARE: Star Venture features paired alternators – mounted low and forward in the engine cases – to provide ample electrical power for the heated seats and grips, audio system and lighting. With 750 watts of total output, riders can feel free to add common electrical accessories or heated apparel without taxing the bike’s charging system.

Infotainment

 

 

  • STATE-OF-THE-ART INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM: Mounted high in the cockpit for improved visibility, the 7-inch full-color LCD display puts a huge array of information and control at the rider’s fingertips. Controlled via touch-screen, handlebar controls or voice commands, this infotainment package gives the rider access to vehicle control and data, a range of audio sources and wireless Bluetooth® communications options. The locking fairing storage includes a USB charging and interface port to keep devices topped up, too.
  • VEHICLE CONTROL CENTER: By integrating vehicle systems into the infotainment console, running data such as trip computer functions and tire pressure can be easily confirmed on-screen, while elements such as the heated seats can be controlled by the rider.
  • COMMUNICATIONS SUITE: By linking a Bluetooth®-equipped smartphone, the Star Venture gives the rider complete control of communications with both the passenger and the wider world directly through the infotainment display.
  • AUDIO ENTERTAINMENT: Mounting paired high-performance speakers, the Star Venture audio package is ready to rock and roll. Pick up favorite local radio stations, bring your pre-recorded music with you, or stream Pandora® from your smart phone, thanks to the onboard USB, AUX stereo, or Bluetooth® wireless connection options.
  • TRANSCONTINENTAL OPTION PACKAGE SPECIAL FEATURES: Riders stepping up the Star Venture Transcontinental Option Package are provided with a range of infotainment upgrades. GPS navigation with points-of-interest and route logging makes it easy to plan, share and upload ride routes from the comfort of your home computer. A CB radio system keeps you in touch with other road users near and far. SiriusXM® keeps the tunes pumping across the state or across the country, while SiriusXM Travel Link® satellite weather and traffic keeps riders ahead of the conditions. With an additional pair of high-output speakers and Yamaha’s exclusive Dual Zone audio control—which allows rider and passenger to select different audio sources, hold private phone calls, and more—the Star Venture Transcontinental offers one of the most advanced infotainment packages ever seen on two wheels.

Top Features

 

 

  • HIGH TORQUE ENGINE WITH CUTTING-EDGE RIDER AIDS: Featuring a torque-rich 1854 cc air-cooled V-twin, Star Venture® produces smooth, effortless passing power even when fully loaded. And with ride-by-wire throttle control, traction control and selectable riding modes, Star Venture brings class-leading technology to the luxury touring class.
  • YAMAHA SURE-PARK SYSTEM: With Star Venture’s Sure-Park™ System, parking maneuvers are a breeze, even fully loaded. Controlled from the handlebar, an electric motor provides forward and reverse drive to assist during tricky parking situations, especially on rough or poor traction surfaces.
  • INTEGRATED INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM: With a high-output audio system and a large, high-mounted touch and voice controlled infotainment system, the Star Venture puts the rider in command. Music, navigation, communications and vehicle systems are integrated cleanly into a single system that sets standards for two-wheeled technology.
  • ADJUSTABLE ERGONOMICS AND AERODYNAMICS: Star Venture adapts to rider and passenger needs straight from the dealership floor, with adjustable ergonomics, wind protection and controls. Grip warmers and heated seats for both rider and passenger come standard, with a low seat height for confidence at every stop.
  • ADVANCED CHASSIS: Designed around a rigid chassis and advanced suspension systems, the Star Venture is built to offer Yamaha’s renowned handling ability when the road turns twisty, without losing the comfort or straight-line confidence expected from a luxury tourer.
  • TRANSCONTINENTAL OPTION PACKAGE: Riders that step up to the Star Venture Transcontinental Option Package benefit from a range of options, with enhanced infotainment features including GPS navigation, SiriusXM®, additional speakers and Yamaha’s exclusive Dual Zone audio control. Standard LED fog lights, additional onboard storage and an alarmed security system round out the package.

General Information

 

Manufacturer

Yamaha

Model Year

2018

Model

Star Venture with Transcontinental Option Package

Model Code

OE18XV19F

Stock Number

N/A

Color

Raspberry Metallic

Brakes/Wheels/Tires

 

Brakes

Front - Dual hydraulic disc, 298 mm; Unified Brake System and ABS

Rear - Hydraulic disc, 320 mm; Unified Brake System and ABS

Tires

Front - 130/70R18 Bridgestone® Exedra®

Rear - 200/55R16 Bridgestone® Exedra®

Dimensions

 

Length

106.3 in.

Height

59.1 in.

Width

39.9 in.

Weight

Wet - 963 lb.

Ground Clearance

Maximum - 5.5 in.

Wheelbase

67.6 in.

Seat Height

27.4 in.

Drivetrain

 

Transmission

6-speed; multi-plate assist and slipper wet clutch

Final Drive

Belt

Engine

 

Engine

8-valve OHV V-twin

Displacement

1,854 cc (113 cu. in.)

Bore x Stroke

100 x 118 mm

Torque

126 ft. lb.

Compression Ratio

9.5:1

Fuel System

Yamaha Fuel Injection with YCC-T and D-Mode

Fuel Capacity

6.6 gal.

MPG Rating

34 mpg

Ignition

TCI: Transistor Controlled Ignition

Operational

 

Suspension

Front - 46 mm telescopic fork; 5.1-in travel

Rear - Single shock with remote preload adjustment; 4.3-in travel

Other

 

Additional Colors

Granite Gray

Raspberry Metallic

Warranty

5 Year Warranty Coverage - 1 year limited factory warranty + 4 years Yamaha Extended Service = 5 years coverage.

Edited by YamahaParExcellence
Posted (edited)
I never knew that the manufacturers charge their dealer network for Demo Days. I thought that it would be the Parent Manufacturer that would promote that, and cover all the costs, bikes, food, whatever.....being it is THEIR product that the dealers are hawking. Interesting,...now I understand why some dealers, as you say, "We decided not to have a demo day this year...". I just thought that they couldn't be bothered with the logistics of the weekend. I also wonder how many sales are REALLY generated by these Demo Rides. Most of the You-Tube bloggers, and others that had video camera's said right out, they were there for the free opportunity of 'reviewing' the whatever ride and manufacturer. I didn't hear ONE person...doing any of these Yamaha Days in the different States..getting off of the bike...and stating,' "Thanks for being aboard with me today...I'm now going to go in and talk Turkey with a dealer sales rep." Not one...not ever. It was...."...oh.I like this...oh...I don't like that...oh----->...I'm going to stay with my present ride." Thank's Yamaha Team for the freebie...See ya..."

 

Yes, I know there are a couple or more, of Forum Members who have stated, that they went out on the SVTC, on one of those Demo Rides, and as a result...in fact did purchase their own. Reading that one did so, and moved from his Victory. So..obviously it does draw some legitimate traffic...but then again...what is the percentage of Tire Kickers, and hungry Hot Dog Eater's. vs. riders coming to that Demo Day, really wanting to demo a bike they **are** entertaining to move to. Makes you wonder, or at least myself.....

 

As far as I know, it's only Polaris who charges their dealerships for the demo days... My point in stating that was to show that all floor planning/franchise agreements brand to brand are not the same.. Make sense?

Concerning people going out and demoing with no intent of purchasing,, fact is, while the end result of any demo is the hope that the product does eventually produce sales, most if not all manufacturers doing demo days (like the Yamaha Demo's at Sturgis) do not have the capabilities of selling you a scoot on site. If you do get off the bike and say you are ready to purchase, they will look up a dealership for you and pass you on to said dealer - that too is part of the franchise agreement.. The demo's are all about getting the product into peoples hands under a no pressure to purchase scenario so the product gets exposure. It's sort of like a consumers version of the manfacturers press ride where the total purpose of the "demo" is to produce articles in bike magazines with the hope that somebody may read about the product...

Edited by cowpuc
Posted
Reader, Poll and Crunch this info! :)

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Gawd...you gotta love it...and all on one bike...(forget the kitchen sink...it comes with the whole kitchen), less microwave and bar fridge...that's slated for the 2019 model year...

 

To the MoCo Company, Board of Directors, I invite you to read the following, BUT----> here is a box of Kleenex. You might need it! The waste basket is over--------->here. Thank you, for not littering! :)

$31,999.00 in Canada

 

 

 

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Additional Features

 

 

  • LED LIGHTING: Long rides don’t stop when the sun goes down, so the Star Venture features all-LED lighting to maximize illumination. LED brake lights and turn signals boost visibility, while the quad LED headlight assembly punches a huge hole in the darkness with crisp, bright light. And since LED technology uses less power and lasts longer than traditional bulbs, Star Venture owners can spend more time concentrating on riding.
  • GENEROUS LUGGAGE SYSTEM: Take it all with you. Star Venture features a cavernous 37.3 gallons of volume across the saddlebags, Tour Truck and upper and lower faring storage compartments. Plus, the Transcontinental Option Package offers an additional pair of easily accessible passenger storage compartments, boosting storage capacity to over 38 gallons.
  • ELECTRIC LUGGAGE LOCKS: To provide both convenience and security, the USB-equipped fairing storage compartment, saddlebags and Tour Trunk all feature electric locking lids straight from the factory.
  • SMART KEY SYSTEM: Simplify every ride thanks to Yamaha’s Smart Key system. The remote key fob only needs to be in the rider’s pocket in order to access the luggage system, start the bike, and ride.
  • CONFIDENCE-INSPIRING WARRANTY: Star Venture riders can hit the road knowing that Yamaha is behind them for years to come, thanks to a full 5 Year Warranty Coverage (1 year limited factory warranty + 4 years Yamaha Extended Service = 5 years coverage). Certain exclusions apply, see terms of each for details.
  • TRANSCONTINENTAL OPTION PACKAGE SPECIAL FEATURES: The Star Venture Transcontinental Option Package mounts a range of upgraded features, including supplemental LED fog lamps, an additional pair of storage compartments for the passenger complete with a USB port, and an alarmed security system to keep your investment safe from threats, whether you’re riding around town or around the country.

Chassis / Suspension

 

 

  • AGILE, HIGH-RIGIDITY FRAME: The Star Venture is built around an advanced hybrid chassis designed for agile, confidence-inspiring handling. The main steel frame makes use of casting and forgings to place material exactly where needed for optimal rigidity, while the rear subframe makes use of Yamaha’s advanced aluminum die-casting techniques to reduce weight and centralize mass even further. The balanced chassis gives the Venture a combination of solid straight-line stability with agility on the curviest of roads.
  • CENTRALIZED MASS: Thanks to the semi-dry-sump engine, advanced frame design and careful positioning of major components, turn-in and direction changes require less effort, for a more engaging ride with less fatigue. And you can feel the difference every ride, as the Venture requires a massive 22 percent less effort to lift off the side-stand than similar models in the class.
  • PLUSH, LARGE-DIAMETER FORK: A huge 46 mm telescopic fork features damping and spring rates selected to offer an ideal balance of bump absorption and high speed handling, all without losing a light and responsive road feel. The Star Venture is a true riders’ machine that combines real-world road-holding performance with the plush comfort expected from a luxury touring motorcycle.
  • EASILY ADJUSTABLE LINKAGE-TYPE SHOCK: The rear suspension system features a linkage-type, gas-pressurized, remote reservoir shock to create a compact design with a plush, controlled feel. As with the front fork, damping and spring rates were carefully considered to give the Star Venture an ideal balance of comfort and road feedback, with convenient tuning thanks to a remote preload adjuster.
  • POWERFUL LINKED BRAKES WITH ABS: Around the block or around the country, the Star Venture gives its rider unbeatable braking confidence thanks to high-performance, triple-disc brakes featuring advanced electronic control. Yamaha’s Unified Braking System dynamically adjusts front and rear brake force balance in real time to ensure linear braking feel and power. And Yamaha’s refined antilock braking system (ABS) prevents wheel lock-ups when dealing with reduced traction road conditions.
  • STYLISH MACHINED ALLOY WHEELS: Lightweight front and rear aluminum alloy wheels are finished with machined detailing that highlights the combination of lightness and strength. Up front, the 18 inch wheel features a 130/70 radial tire for light and neutral steering feel, while the rear 16 inch rim mounts a huge 200/55 radial for stunning style and road holding.
  • ADVANCED TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM: Star Venture features advanced sensors in each wheel, which constantly update the instrument panel with current tire pressure data—and alert the rider if pressures fall for any reason—for confidence on long tours without the inconvenience of checking tire pressure before each ride.
  • CLASS LEADING FUEL CAPACITY: The Star Venture features a huge 6.6 gallon fuel tank for generous range, easily reaching 200 miles between fuel stops. Riders now have the freedom to journey further than ever.
  • ADJUSTABLE ERGONOMICS: A luxury touring machine should provide easily customized comfort, and the Star Venture has you covered. Both hand levers offer five-position span adjustments. A deeply padded seat – with an unladen height of only 27.4 inches – makes planting both feet on the pavement easy, and it features a rider backrest with three-position fore and aft adjustment. The passenger backrest is over 17 inches wide for plenty of room to move around, and passenger floorboards can be adjusted between two positions.
  • STYLISH FULL COVERAGE FAIRING: Featuring a stylish full-coverage fairing with just the right amount of classic American muscle car attitude, Star Venture provides the ultimate in style and wind protection touring riders demand. And thanks to the frame-mounted design, steering remains light and neutral compared to competitors’ fork-mounted designs.
  • AERODYNAMIC EXCELLENCE: The Star Venture offers a range of aerodynamic tune-ability, with an electrically adjustable windscreen that offers over 3.5 inches of vertical adjustment. External visors at the middle of the fairing can be adjusted to direct cold air away from the riders on chilly rides, or to direct cooling airflow inwards for warmer weather. And ducted vents inside the lower fairing can be opened or closed to further customize airflow for changing conditions.
  • HEATED LUXURY COMES STANDARD: No matter if the ride calls for a chilly morning or a frozen mountain pass, Star Venture keeps both rider and passenger comfortable thanks to an array of heated contact points, including grips, rider seat, rider backrest, passenger seat and passenger backrest—all standard.

Engine

 

 

  • HIGH TECH MEETS HIGH TORQUE: A massive 1854 cc air-cooled V-twin powers Star Venture with a class-leading 126 pound-feet of pavement-bending torque, for effortless passing power even when fully loaded. And while the competition promotes their “” four-valve cylinder heads, Yamaha has been refining the four-valve, twin-spark-plug, pent-roof engine design for nearly 20 years, delivering exceptional power and drivability that leaves the rest of the class in the dust.
  • SMOOTH RUNNING AND CHARISMATIC: The Star Venture engine delivers huge torque with a thrilling V-twin pulse that brings excitement to every ride. And thanks to lightweight forged alloy pistons, carefully-tuned counter-balancers and advanced composite engine mounts, the Star Venture creates a luxuriously smooth ride ideal for days in the saddle without fatigue.
  • SIX-SPEED TRANSMISSION: Developed specifically for the needs of long-distance touring, the six-speed gearbox features ratios chosen to make the most of the huge low-end torque available from the 1854 cc engine, for brisk acceleration in lower gears and relaxed highway cruising—at 75 mph in sixth gear, the Star Venture will run at an ultra-smooth 2750 rpm.
  • YAMAHA SURE-PARK SYSTEM: Star Venture tackles big-mileage trips without breaking a sweat, and thanks to the Yamaha Sure-Park System, even the smallest maneuvers of your ride are equally confidence-inspiring. Controlled from the handlebar, a small electric motor provides forward and reverse drive to handle tricky parking situations, especially on rough or poor traction surfaces.
  • INTEGRATED OIL TANK AND COOLER: The Star Venture engine features a semi-dry-sump design, lowering the effective center of gravity by allowing the engine to sit lower in the frame, and the external oil tank is integrated into the aluminum subframe to centralize mass and reduce weight. And to maintain ideal engine temperatures, a compact oil cooler is hidden between the front down tubes.
  • RIDE-BY-WIRE ENGINE CONTROL: Star Venture features Yamaha’s Chip Controlled Throttle, or YCC-T®, a ride-by-wire throttle control system that converts the rider’s grip input into precise throttle control, for impeccable engine response and enhanced levels of refinement from the high-torque engine.
  • ADVANCED RIDER ASSISTING TECHNOLOGY: With the advent of YCC-T, Star Venture is able to mount a variety of advanced rider assistance technologies, including Yamaha D-Mode and traction control. D-Mode allows the rider to choose from two different throttle response settings: an ultra-smooth touring mode, and a sport mode for sharper response. The traction control system helps prevent wheel spin when dealing with reduced traction road conditions—and Yamaha is the first manufacturer to offer this type of system in the full-dress touring class, too.
  • INTEGRATED CRUISE CONTROL: Yamaha’s refined cruise control system comes standard, using YCC-T ride-by-wire technology to provide a convenient push-button solution to ease long highway jaunts, for less fatigue and improved fuel economy.
  • ASSIST AND SLIPPER CLUTCH: Yamaha’s assist and slipper clutch uses internal ramps to provide additional clamping force under acceleration along with the proven advantages of a back-torque-reducing, slipper-style clutch. This two-way design uses lighter clutch springs to reduce clutch lever effort, and provides smoother deceleration, especially when downshifting aggressively.
  • CAREFULLY TUNED TWIN EXHAUST: The Star Venture’s exhaust system features a twin-muffler design with the throaty V-twin exhaust note that custom touring fans seek. Yamaha carefully developed the exhaust tone throughout the entire rpm range in collaboration with the audiophiles at Yamaha Music, for a thrilling soundtrack on every ride.
  • ELECTRICAL POWER TO SPARE: Star Venture features paired alternators – mounted low and forward in the engine cases – to provide ample electrical power for the heated seats and grips, audio system and lighting. With 750 watts of total output, riders can feel free to add common electrical accessories or heated apparel without taxing the bike’s charging system.

Infotainment

 

 

  • STATE-OF-THE-ART INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM: Mounted high in the cockpit for improved visibility, the 7-inch full-color LCD display puts a huge array of information and control at the rider’s fingertips. Controlled via touch-screen, handlebar controls or voice commands, this infotainment package gives the rider access to vehicle control and data, a range of audio sources and wireless Bluetooth® communications options. The locking fairing storage includes a USB charging and interface port to keep devices topped up, too.
  • VEHICLE CONTROL CENTER: By integrating vehicle systems into the infotainment console, running data such as trip computer functions and tire pressure can be easily confirmed on-screen, while elements such as the heated seats can be controlled by the rider.
  • COMMUNICATIONS SUITE: By linking a Bluetooth®-equipped smartphone, the Star Venture gives the rider complete control of communications with both the passenger and the wider world directly through the infotainment display.
  • AUDIO ENTERTAINMENT: Mounting paired high-performance speakers, the Star Venture audio package is ready to rock and roll. Pick up favorite local radio stations, bring your pre-recorded music with you, or stream Pandora® from your smart phone, thanks to the onboard USB, AUX stereo, or Bluetooth® wireless connection options.
  • TRANSCONTINENTAL OPTION PACKAGE SPECIAL FEATURES: Riders stepping up the Star Venture Transcontinental Option Package are provided with a range of infotainment upgrades. GPS navigation with points-of-interest and route logging makes it easy to plan, share and upload ride routes from the comfort of your home computer. A CB radio system keeps you in touch with other road users near and far. SiriusXM® keeps the tunes pumping across the state or across the country, while SiriusXM Travel Link® satellite weather and traffic keeps riders ahead of the conditions. With an additional pair of high-output speakers and Yamaha’s exclusive Dual Zone audio control—which allows rider and passenger to select different audio sources, hold private phone calls, and more—the Star Venture Transcontinental offers one of the most advanced infotainment packages ever seen on two wheels.

Top Features

 

 

  • HIGH TORQUE ENGINE WITH CUTTING-EDGE RIDER AIDS: Featuring a torque-rich 1854 cc air-cooled V-twin, Star Venture® produces smooth, effortless passing power even when fully loaded. And with ride-by-wire throttle control, traction control and selectable riding modes, Star Venture brings class-leading technology to the luxury touring class.
  • YAMAHA SURE-PARK SYSTEM: With Star Venture’s Sure-Park™ System, parking maneuvers are a breeze, even fully loaded. Controlled from the handlebar, an electric motor provides forward and reverse drive to assist during tricky parking situations, especially on rough or poor traction surfaces.
  • INTEGRATED INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM: With a high-output audio system and a large, high-mounted touch and voice controlled infotainment system, the Star Venture puts the rider in command. Music, navigation, communications and vehicle systems are integrated cleanly into a single system that sets standards for two-wheeled technology.
  • ADJUSTABLE ERGONOMICS AND AERODYNAMICS: Star Venture adapts to rider and passenger needs straight from the dealership floor, with adjustable ergonomics, wind protection and controls. Grip warmers and heated seats for both rider and passenger come standard, with a low seat height for confidence at every stop.
  • ADVANCED CHASSIS: Designed around a rigid chassis and advanced suspension systems, the Star Venture is built to offer Yamaha’s renowned handling ability when the road turns twisty, without losing the comfort or straight-line confidence expected from a luxury tourer.
  • TRANSCONTINENTAL OPTION PACKAGE: Riders that step up to the Star Venture Transcontinental Option Package benefit from a range of options, with enhanced infotainment features including GPS navigation, SiriusXM®, additional speakers and Yamaha’s exclusive Dual Zone audio control. Standard LED fog lights, additional onboard storage and an alarmed security system round out the package.

General Information

 

Manufacturer

Yamaha

Model Year

2018

Model

Star Venture with Transcontinental Option Package

Model Code

OE18XV19F

Stock Number

N/A

Color

Raspberry Metallic

Brakes/Wheels/Tires

 

Brakes

Front - Dual hydraulic disc, 298 mm; Unified Brake System and ABS

Rear - Hydraulic disc, 320 mm; Unified Brake System and ABS

Tires

Front - 130/70R18 Bridgestone® Exedra®

Rear - 200/55R16 Bridgestone® Exedra®

Dimensions

 

Length

106.3 in.

Height

59.1 in.

Width

39.9 in.

Weight

Wet - 963 lb.

Ground Clearance

Maximum - 5.5 in.

Wheelbase

67.6 in.

Seat Height

27.4 in.

Drivetrain

 

Transmission

6-speed; multi-plate assist and slipper wet clutch

Final Drive

Belt

Engine

 

Engine

8-valve OHV V-twin

Displacement

1,854 cc (113 cu. in.)

Bore x Stroke

100 x 118 mm

Torque

126 ft. lb.

Compression Ratio

9.5:1

Fuel System

Yamaha Fuel Injection with YCC-T and D-Mode

Fuel Capacity

6.6 gal.

MPG Rating

34 mpg

Ignition

TCI: Transistor Controlled Ignition

Operational

 

Suspension

Front - 46 mm telescopic fork; 5.1-in travel

Rear - Single shock with remote preload adjustment; 4.3-in travel

Other

 

Additional Colors

Granite Gray

Raspberry Metallic

Warranty

5 Year Warranty Coverage - 1 year limited factory warranty + 4 years Yamaha Extended Service = 5 years coverage.

 

Hey lop eared Venture lovin varmint,,,, ya forgot something!!!:photographing::big-grin-emoticon:

 

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and not to get to far away from my normal :witch_brew:,, :stickpoke:ways,,, I wonder if the grey one is faster the the red one:guitarist 2::happy65::happy34:

Posted
Maybe I should ride down there? I’m just north of Charlotte. You gonna be there today?

 

Yes I plan to be there. They will have food for lunch too.

 

Earl

Posted
Hey lop eared Venture lovin varmint,,,, ya forgot something!!!:photographing::big-grin-emoticon:

 

https://cloud.yamahamotorsports.com/library/img.jpg?id=59305fc02a0ab601c4072e64&w=840

 

and not to get to far away from my normal :witch_brew:,, :stickpoke:ways,,, I wonder if the grey one is faster the the red one:guitarist 2::happy65::happy34:

 

"Nope...nope...for what is the classic coloring of the Devil's skin tone? Huh? Right...RED...and where does the Devil call home...huh? Right...Hell!

 

And so...it only stands to reason, that the same color that mimics the Devil's skin tone...is RED, and that means, it rides and moves out, like a BAT----> OUTTA HELL!"

 

Only makes sense, you know?

Posted
"Nope...nope...for what is the classic coloring of the Devil's skin tone? Huh? Right...RED...and where does the Devil call home...huh? Right...Hell!

 

And so...it only stands to reason, that the same color that mimics the Devil's skin tone...is RED, and that means, it rides and moves out, like a BAT----> OUTTA HELL!"

 

Only makes sense, you know?

 

Tune #2 to hang on Charlottes web!! Dedicated to my new brother of the road,, "Johnny Yamster" and his new RED SVTC!!

 

Posted

I stopped by a dealer on Saturday, they had a red and grey SVTC and one Eluder. Out the door price for the gorgeous red SVTC was $34k, I would need to stumble onto a bunch of $ to lay that out for a bike. According to them the TC is the only Venture they will be bringing in. Also according to them Canada has a 5 year front to back unlimited mileage warranty. This dealer is NOT running demo days as the only day they were offered was in the middle of the week and they don't think it's worth the money. I was surprised and confirmed that they do indeed have to pay for the demo day people to show up.

Posted
I stopped by a dealer on Saturday, they had a red and grey SVTC and one Eluder. Out the door price for the gorgeous red SVTC was $34k, I would need to stumble onto a bunch of $ to lay that out for a bike. According to them the TC is the only Venture they will be bringing in. Also according to them Canada has a 5 year front to back unlimited mileage warranty. This dealer is NOT running demo days as the only day they were offered was in the middle of the week and they don't think it's worth the money. I was surprised and confirmed that they do indeed have to pay for the demo day people to show up.

 

Very interesting,, THANK YOU for the vote and also for the commenting Sy.. Here Stateside I know that the new Ventures are not covered by the actual factory warranty for 5 years (I think the 2nd Gens actually may have been) as the actual factory warranty runs out at 1 year but then Yamaha includes a 4 year service plan after that,, it sounds like you folks to the North may be getting the better end of the stick = good on ya!!!!

An interesting tidbit to that,,,, I remember reading about a dealership that was including Lifetime Warranty/extended service contracts on ALL new bikes they sold here in the States - I think they were in Wisconsin.. I am not sure that is still going on but I thought it was amazing when I seen their ads a while back....

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