A honest question...wondering about the Harley Davidson Co's standing into the future

[RDawson]

Don't let it get the best of you. I've made purchases in the past thinking it's " good enough" instead of holding out for what I wanted, then buyer remorse sets in. Be patient, have faith, and be ready to post some pics. And no I'm not good at following that advice. Good Luck.

[YamahaParExcellence]

Don't let it get the best of you. I've made purchases in the past thinking it's " good enough" instead of holding out for what I wanted, then buyer remorse sets in. Be patient, have faith, and be ready to post some pics. And no I'm not good at following that advice. Good Luck.

 

I 'hear ya..'..and all the above is sage advise. I'd only have to be on the road this summer...and have somebody else's 2018 SVTC move on out past me...and then..well...yeah......! Yeah......

[ChiefGunner]

Chief, yes..I did say that I would wait until actually May 30th...but the time line, pointed that it was only a week away from shipping to the dealer. I asked my dealer this morning, if they got ANY word (not asking for just the VIN) that it was at the warehouse, or upon the truck. They got nothing back from Yamaha...except to say that they WERE getting some dealer stock in today on a truck. They did...but my SVTC was not on it. So..I guess, I have to just keep my fingertips to myself...and hide my extreme frustration in all of this.

 

I intend to ride my Kawa tomorrow to the Harley Dealer,....sit on the Road Glide Ultra...lean it, feel it...play with the infortainment whatever's....and then grab a coffee, and talk turkey. I want to know before the end of next month, what I can expect to have to pay out to go Harley. I also took a look at the Kawasaki Voyager 1700 and thought that I would also stop by my Kawa dealer...and check that puppy out. Just options, Chief...in case this is an absolute bust. The other option, if I don't let my anger get the best of me...and I'm human...and pi*sed right off now, to above the gunwales...is to just apologize to Mama...and ride my ZR7S this summer...then see if Yamaha gets their Canadian act together, and has 2019's in for the month of August/18. That might also happen. What would drive me over the edge, there though...would be if my hunch is right...the '19's come with a two or three year warranty, and a 3 or 4 % MSRP hike.

 

I just have a feeling that the 5 year warranty that you have in your back pocket, was to entice sales for the introductory year. Maybe, maybe not. My crystal ball has a crack in it...

 

The bottom line here is, though...that you poor folks won't have to read my 'it's coming....'it's coming posts, because some schmuck from Yamaha Canada (a few days) said so....I'm going to rein in, and spare everybody that. The next time I type about a 2018 SVTC...will be for if I have the F*****G thing,...and pictures accompany the post! Other than that...the fingertips get slapped, lol!

 

Cheers,

Joe

A suggestion if I may. Your dealership sounds both deceptive and incompetent. Stop calling them for info.

call Yamaha Customer Relations and voice your concerns to them. TELL them you are ready to purchase a competitor because your order placed last October for a SVTC has gone unanswered! Your dealer sucks. Yamaha cares about the reputation the SV roll out and pre-order is getting. You’re making some “noise “, just not to the right people IMHO.

[YamahaParExcellence]

A suggestion if I may. Your dealership sounds both deceptive and incompetent. Stop calling them for info.

call Yamaha Customer Relations and voice your concerns to them. TELL them you are ready to purchase a competitor because your order placed last October for a SVTC has gone unanswered! Your dealer sucks. Yamaha cares about the reputation the SV roll out and pre-order is getting. You’re making some “noise “, just not to the right people IMHO.

 

I'll do that tomorrow...and will post here, the result of that endevour! Who knows, Chief...the squeaky door analogy might give play...

Cheers,

Joe

[BigLenny]

YPE,

 

I feel I owe you an apology. Looking back at this thread, it appears this all kind of turned on a dime whenever I told you the story of my relatives who were Goldwing riders, but are now happy Harley Riders. I certainly wasn't wanting to stir up any kind of great desire for you to go look at a Harley Road Glide. I was just telling you a funny story of how shocked we were to see our relatives change from of all things, a Goldwing to Harley. It was crazy watching that happen. Having said that, we in the family who ride motorcycles on a regular basis, and especially several of my family members who are long riding touring folks who have put miles and miles across this great nation on their bikes know without a doubt that, even though our cousins like their Harley Road Glide, they most certainly left a far better quality bike in the GW to go to Harley.

 

I have personally test ridden both the Road Glide Ultra, and the new Yamaha SVTC. The Road Glide 3 times, for a total of about 2 hours, and the SVTC twice for about an hour and a half total. I don't personally care which bike you buy, my main concern is that you are ultimately happy. But, I can tell you unequivocally, the SVTC is the nicer, better performing, better fit and finish, better technology, better overall comfortable bike between the two. And, that dang SurePark system that the SVTC has is another strong reason the Yamaha is far more advanced than the Harley.

 

Harley does a great job at dazzling folks with glitz, glam, community, a good, not great quality bike. They are certainly in tune with their customers, and seem to listen to their wants and needs, and bring that to the market (as long as it stays within the confines of the old style design). And, yes, they absolutely have a current inventory of a gazillion bikes just waiting for suspecting souls to come snap them up. I highly respect them for who and what they are, and for what they have created in the Vtwin touring market. When I go into a Harley dealer, I get mesmerized by all the colors, and styles, not to mention the clothes, and accessories. Man, it's rather cool. But, in the end, I always bring it down to the bike. And, that is where the gap seems to hit me.

 

When you sit these two bike side by side and compare them for what they truly are; there simply is a gap between the two.

When I've test ridden the Harley, I truly know I am on an ages old bike, that they have done a good job of updating over the years with making the frame, engine, electronics, suspension, etc, better. But, it's still an old style bike.

However, within the first few minutes that I was on the SVTC, I new that this was a high tech, precisely built machine, that was on another level from other VTwin touring bikes that I had ridden. It was one sweet machine. It is simply the most updated VTwin bike on the market right now, and you can feel it. There is a reason that all the major bike magazines are ranting and raving about this bike. It is a great VTwin bike, that is second to none right now. And, you can feel the unmistaken Yamaha quality when you are on it.

 

A couple years ago, Consumer Reports did their first ever motorcycle quality rankings. Of all the years they have been rating automobiles, they had never done a motorcycle brand quality ranking. Well, after extensive research that they are known for, they came out with their first ever motorcycle quality ranking, and the brand name that they rate highest quality on the market, with the least repair rates, was Yamaha. Honda was second. Harley was way down the least toward the bottom.

 

Yamaha makes really great stuff. Very high quality stuff. Is it gonna come in forty bazzilion colors, with 9 kinds of this and that? No. Is Yamaha ever gonna have the inventory that Harley has? No. Is it ever gonna have the community that Harley has? No. But, they are always going to be the highest quality built rides out there. And, they are gonna perform year in and year out, for miles and miles with little to no issues.

 

Now, having said all of this; if you go get antsy pants in the next couple weeks and buy a Harley, I'll be as tickled for you as all get out. Grinning from ear to ear for you. But, I just wanted you to know that what you're waiting on (and I know it's bugging you), is a world class built VTwin bike that the motorcycle world is recognizing as a very significant hit to the VTwin touring world.

 

A year from now, it's not gonna matter that you had to wait a long while to get the dang thing.

 

Big Lenny

[YamahaParExcellence]

YPE,

 

I feel I owe you an apology. Looking back at this thread, it appears this all kind of turned on a dime whenever I told you the story of my relatives who were Goldwing riders, but are now happy Harley Riders. I certainly wasn't wanting to stir up any kind of great desire for you to go look at a Harley Road Glide. I was just telling you a funny story of how shocked we were to see our relatives change from of all things, a Goldwing to Harley. It was crazy watching that happen. Having said that, we in the family who ride motorcycles on a regular basis, and especially several of my family members who are long riding touring folks who have put miles and miles across this great nation on their bikes know without a doubt that, even though our cousins like their Harley Road Glide, they most certainly left a far better quality bike in the GW to go to Harley.

 

I have personally test ridden both the Road Glide Ultra, and the new Yamaha SVTC. The Road Glide 3 times, for a total of about 2 hours, and the SVTC twice for about an hour and a half total. I don't personally care which bike you buy, my main concern is that you are ultimately happy. But, I can tell you unequivocally, the SVTC is the nicer, better performing, better fit and finish, better technology, better overall comfortable bike between the two. And, that dang SurePark system that the SVTC has is another strong reason the Yamaha is far more advanced than the Harley.

 

Harley does a great job at dazzling folks with glitz, glam, community, a good, not great quality bike. They are certainly in tune with their customers, and seem to listen to their wants and needs, and bring that to the market (as long as it stays within the confines of the old style design). And, yes, they absolutely have a current inventory of a gazillion bikes just waiting for suspecting souls to come snap them up. I highly respect them for who and what they are, and for what they have created in the Vtwin touring market. When I go into a Harley dealer, I get mesmerized by all the colors, and styles, not to mention the clothes, and accessories. Man, it's rather cool. But, in the end, I always bring it down to the bike. And, that is where the gap seems to hit me.

 

When you sit these two bike side by side and compare them for what they truly are; there simply is a gap between the two.

When I've test ridden the Harley, I truly know I am on an ages old bike, that they have done a good job of updating over the years with making the frame, engine, electronics, suspension, etc, better. But, it's still an old style bike.

However, within the first few minutes that I was on the SVTC, I new that this was a high tech, precisely built machine, that was on another level from other VTwin touring bikes that I had ridden. It was one sweet machine. It is simply the most updated VTwin bike on the market right now, and you can feel it. There is a reason that all the major bike magazines are ranting and raving about this bike. It is a great VTwin bike, that is second to none right now. And, you can feel the unmistaken Yamaha quality when you are on it.

 

A couple years ago, Consumer Reports did their first ever motorcycle quality rankings. Of all the years they have been rating automobiles, they had never done a motorcycle brand quality ranking. Well, after extensive research that they are known for, they came out with their first ever motorcycle quality ranking, and the brand name that they rate highest quality on the market, with the least repair rates, was Yamaha. Honda was second. Harley was way down the least toward the bottom.

 

Yamaha makes really great stuff. Very high quality stuff. Is it gonna come in forty bazzilion colors, with 9 kinds of this and that? No. Is Yamaha ever gonna have the inventory that Harley has? No. Is it ever gonna have the community that Harley has? No. But, they are always going to be the highest quality built rides out there. And, they are gonna perform year in and year out, for miles and miles with little to no issues.

 

Now, having said all of this; if you go get antsy pants in the next couple weeks and buy a Harley, I'll be as tickled for you as all get out. Grinning from ear to ear for you. But, I just wanted you to know that what you're waiting on (and I know it's bugging you), is a world class built VTwin bike that the motorcycle world is recognizing as a very significant hit to the VTwin touring world.

 

A year from now, it's not gonna matter that you had to wait a long while to get the dang thing.

 

Big Lenny

 

Lenny, a fabulous post, sir. I did enjoy your original post, but have to take the 'guilt' off of you, lol. No guilt regarding the Cousin Post. I had already been looking at a Plan B from the likes of Harley and Kawasaki on the Web, way before you posted your Cousin's great experience. Like I have typed, we were Gold Wing riders for years, upon years. They are a great bike (I refer to what I have experienced...1975-2008 model years) and have toured countless tens of thousands of miles upon them, break-down free! A great ride, but in all of this...and the 7 months of waiting...I have formed another opinion. Much less tribal, in the opinion that I had held....and my new 'Joe Face' is this...if I see ANYBODY out riding....even if it is a scooter....thumb's up...for that is the ride, that is best for them, the make, the model, the year... All good. I 'hear' what you are saying...and while I was in a 'fit' yesterday a 'down' day...I am seriously thinking this all through like a carpenter.

 

Measure three times...cut once. You bring up great points. The other thing about Human Nature, for us all...is instinct...and usually, the original 'shove in the back' to look at a particular make and model, will always be the prime one you wanted. That is true. Do I want the SVTC? Absolutely, or I wouldn't be so p*ssed off, at this almost 7 month's long delay from the ordering of it. I know it is a fabulous bike, even though my experience so far, has only been to sit upon it, and explore all the infotainment features. Let me tell you...I stood, LOOKING at the bike...back to front, front to back, absolutely appreciating that I have NEVER seen a bike look so good. Have NEVER seen a bike with the feature set this ride has. THIS is why I am so, so, twisted out, on it being 7 months... I see other forum members coming out of winter hibernation down below the Mason Dixon....RAVING about the bike...and I'm in total Yamaha ignorance..of why...what...WHEN...I'm going to join them.

 

So...I'm going out after I attempt to get some answers from Yamaha Canada in just after finishing this post...and am going to ride to a HD dealer...do my own due diligence on the Road Glide Ultra. Then, over to my Kawa dealer..and talk to them, over the Kawasaki 1700...sit on that...play with the features...talk some turkey...and then wait it out until June 1st. That is the day I pull my deal...and get my money back. I also have the other option...to just ride my ZR7S, and wait until this coming August or thereabouts, for the '19's to show up. If I do that...and the price and warranty is the same as the introductory year (I have my educated doubts...), I can once more lay out the coin....but with a hard-written stipulation, (once bitten, twice shy) that the dealer gets the bike within three weeks from contract write up...or a refund cheque is ready to be picked up. I might just end up doing that.

 

I would be a liar ...if I said that I have never 'entertained' the thought of owning at least one in my life, a Harley Davidson. I always played with that idea...(tire kicked) even when I was running my Honda Gold Wing GL1500 SE. Also, have ALWAYS wanted to own an RT1200 BMW. I was even going to research the BMW rider's program, whereby you fly to Germany, to the factory, and pick the bike you want to Alpine Demo...and then you travel on tour with the factory backed, Alp's tour through Germany, France, Italy...Bavaria...and then, at the end of the tour, they offer you a fabulous price on your ride. The ride was factory new, when you first left the factory parking lot...so only YOU would have broken it in. They then ship your Alpine bike with all the memories attached, to your driveway, back home. I was going to do that...before I bought my Sport Tour, from Kawasaki, but the cost of common maintenance (and repair, should you need some) for a BMW, is well...as to my opinion, cost-prohibitive.

 

You are suffering through my morning coffee activated fingertips...lol...but the bottom line...is that I hear you...not to go Knee Jerk on myself...and cool the jets. I am...today the sun is out in T.O.....CowFace is waiting out there in the garage for her owner...and we are going to kick some pavement...heading up to Lake Simcoe, and area. It's only about an hour's drive from Toronto...so would be a good, true, first ride of the season. I went last week to Tobermory, but cold and cloudy. Today is sun, and a promise of warmth. That's all this guy needs...a ride to get some oxygen up the nostrils...lol.

 

The one thing that I not going to do anymore...is post about the SVTC, (as sitting in the Waiting Room) Frankly, for a reader...that gets, or is...'old'. If I get it before my cut off date for the 2018 model...I'll happily announce it, with some pictures to boot. If you don't see that...then you'll know it just didn't happen, and the refund cheque was cut.

 

Have a great day, Lenny...and hope you get some riding in today as well! Happy Spring, sir!

 

Joe

[YamahaParExcellence]

A suggestion if I may. Your dealership sounds both deceptive and incompetent. Stop calling them for info.

call Yamaha Customer Relations and voice your concerns to them. TELL them you are ready to purchase a competitor because your order placed last October for a SVTC has gone unanswered! Your dealer sucks. Yamaha cares about the reputation the SV roll out and pre-order is getting. You’re making some “noise “, just not to the right people IMHO.

 

 

Chief...it is now 09:55 hours, and I just got off with the head of Customer Service/Relations...who will be getting back to me, later on today. He needs to reference another department within the Company. He said to my face, that the delays are totally the fault of Yamaha Canada, and again this rep apologized to me, for this delay. I gave him all my dealer, and contract number particulars...(he did ask me what color the order was for..and this to my feelings, totally backs up that they did NOT make enough Red Metallic Raspberries for this model) I think they might have some, or 'a' Grey. If that is the case, I'm good with that at this juncture. I saw the Grey Metallic at the dealer where I was ogling it...and it looks just as good as the Red. Sort of like BMW Grey, lol. At this point..I'd be happy to get one in the crate. I love red anything...and of course that is the color of my Kawasaki ZR7S, was the color of my 2008 Gold Wing, as you can see in some of my uploaded Forum pictures...but..honestly...sometimes..even a forced change-up is good. If they come back to me...and say that they have a Grey SVTC crated, ready to go, then Chief...I'm IN. Send that bike out today! I'd love the Grey just as much as the Red...it's only a color, lol. And..whose to say that because of owning that Grey..I might really take to it...and start a new tradition..."Hon...this looks so much like the BMW 'grey'...maybe our next vehicle...should be a little Beemer....LOLOLOL. You know...this same great color..."

 

Chief...what to you think the chances would be of pulling that little Wife Step Around ploy...success? Not successful? Dunno...never tried that nonsense...lol. A Grey SVTC could be the lead-in....and I have just the Beemer in mind...lol!

 

So, wish me luck...at this juncture...I don't CARE anymore, whether the panels are red, or grey. I just care that they are BELOW ME and around me!....on our way----------------> out to Boise, Idaho.....with Kool and the Gang, banging out the first tune over the J&M 801 Elites!

 

Post Edit: "Just got off the phone with Yamaha Canada's Big Guy, from Head Office. He just confirmed that my RED ...yep...my RED SVTC is in the warehouse, and is **GOING** to be shipped out to my dealer, early next week. On the day it ships, he has asked that he be notified, of which he will then call my home...and advise of such. Dare I say, Happy Days, once more. This guy...Chief, I believe!!!! HAPPY DAYS, HAPPY DANCE...going out for a HAPPY RIDE!"

 

On a serious note, Folks...even though there has been much conjecture on this great Venture Site, as to whether Yamaha should have used their V4 Max engine in this mount, it is (for this guy) BECAUSE they didn't (and perhaps that bears out with their published reasons to have gone with a traditional air/oil cooling metric...rider polls..etc), is just one more reason that I wanted this bike. Following that...is a feature set that like they advertised at the Reveal...this is the first bike, that totally engages, and marries the Tech/Modern driven rider, with the Traditional/Emotional rider.

 

Folks...I don't see any other bike, any other model, from any other manufacturer, that can lay claim to that design mandate. Nobody, but Yamaha, has a bike that fully delivers absolutely, everything that a rider could want, in ergonomics, in latest tech, in comfort feature sets...all of it. THIS bike...is at the top of the heap, top of the rider food-chain. (IMPO)!

 

Perhaps wanting one (the Yamaha SVTC) for many, stops at the very engine in the frame...for those that MUST HAVE a liquid cooled motor, it's a fail. For those though..that can have either...and have owned either...a water cooled engine, or an air/oil cooled engine...this is the very pinnacle of the 'art of the ride'. You don't NEED to have the room to take the 'kitchen sink' with you...hell..you already HAVE the **whole kitchen** with you by its very design,... and in what this bike brings to ownership. I am thrilled that I am truly getting one...really getting my own, and will no longer refer to this ride as Vapor Bike.

 

Next week...at the dealership, the Eagle Lands....next week...I ride...(with camera, lol) and finally coming home with Kool and the Gang's CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELEBRATION TIME 'C'Mon blaring out of those four gorgeous speakers..and played by Yamaha Music's contribution to this ride. I am a musician, a classical trained pianist and bass player...music is my life's blood...and have owned many a fine Yamaha musical instrument in my day, or their home stereo components. Sound...is their business! To have a motorcycle with an infotainment system designed 'in-house' is a first for me. All my Honda Gold Wing's sound systems were 3rP contracted.

 

Ok...I'm rambling...seriously rambling...and need to go out for a victory ride...

 

Have a great day, folks....have a great....day!

One Happy Camper, once more!

Joe

Edited April 26, 2018 by YamahaParExcellence
Happy Dance...

[Chaharly]

Yep, I looked at the Indians as well. I'd like a little more traditional shape of the twin towers, more to what the SVTC and the Harley's have. Just personal preference. The only Harley I would consider, would be the Ultra, (EDIT) After reading Freebird's post...am going to look at the 2018 Road Glide Ultra version of the full bagger...(loaded right up...) I also, of course, could wait until next year for the SVTC 19's. I'm sure they will be plentifully available, and Yamaha not starve out their Canadian dealers, as with the introductory year. That was a serious fumble...even if they wanted to cautiously test the waters...

Post Edit: I have decided that I'm not waiting for the 19's...and punish my wife out of some great riding op's this summer. That's not going to happen. Yamaha, or Harley Davidson...heck, they're all good...each ride will get you there.

 

Buy an American one and I'll ride it up to ya!

[YamahaParExcellence]

Buy an American one and I'll ride it up to ya!

 

LOL...just about to sign off the computer...and go for a Kawa ride myself! No need, thanks for the offer...my wife is downstairs...doing her own 'Happy Days Dance'. She's my ride out to the bike...

 

All our Winter-long tour plans are back on line. What a great feeling...for the last month...we pretty much haven't mentioned a word to either of us...it was looking...well...bleak.

 

No more!

 

Boise, Idaho, to Flat Lake, Montana, the Inaugural Run------------------------------------->...HERE WE COME! Soon, riding in style...yessssir! Our own Yamaha Top Hat 'n Tails, with wheels! Life is good....

 

Y'all have a great, and profitable day!

 

Happy Dance Joe

Edited April 26, 2018 by YamahaParExcellence

[Flyinfool]

I fully understand the RED thing. The vast majority of my vehicles have been red. I love the looks on a salesmens face when I say that I will NOT buy anything that is black, white, or any form of grey/silver.

 

How far is it from the warehouse to the dealer?

How long will it take the dealer to uncrate and set it up ready to deliver?

 

We are all getting excited for you, I still feel like a kid in a candy store just following your adventures.

[Chaharly]

Totally excited for you man! Just finished reading through this and I hope she's everything you ever wanted!

[YamahaParExcellence]

I fully understand the RED thing. The vast majority of my vehicles have been red. I love the looks on a salesmens face when I say that I will NOT buy anything that is black, white, or any form of grey/silver.

 

How far is it from the warehouse to the dealer?

How long will it take the dealer to uncrate and set it up ready to deliver?

 

We are all getting excited for you, I still feel like a kid in a candy store just following your adventures.

 

Had some phone calls and biz stuff to do on-line before heading out today....so saw this before signing off until tonight;

 

From Concord, Ontario to the dealer, 120 miles.

 

Dealer said that as soon as we high-tail it out there to (my request) view the actual shipping carton, then perhaps Thursday or Friday for the ride home.

 

Joe

Edited April 26, 2018 by YamahaParExcellence

[YamahaParExcellence]

Totally excited for you man! Just finished reading through this and I hope she's everything you ever wanted!

 

Thank you, sir! The bike's feature list ..truly IS, everything that I could ever want on one ride! Yamaha Corp should win an engineering and total design award for the SVTC..., but a slap on the butt, ---->for manufacturer/dealer/info pipeline/end-owner info flow. That...they get a 'F' at present, for. School's out.

 

Joe

Edited April 26, 2018 by YamahaParExcellence

[RDawson]

Congrats.

[vzuden]

iif my hunch is right...the '19's come with a two or three year warranty, and a 3 or 4 % MSRP hike.

 

I just have a feeling that the 5 year warranty that you have in your back pocket, was to entice sales for the introductory year. Maybe, maybe not. My crystal ball has a crack in it...

 

Not likely (on the warranty) since they have had five year warranty on the Ventures and RSTD's for several years

[RandyR]

I thought the full 5 year warranty on the new Venture was an extra cost option, and the standard warranty was 2 years???

[YamahaParExcellence]

Congrats.

 

Thank you! Looking forward to next week!

[YamahaParExcellence]

Not likely (on the warranty) since they have had five year warranty on the Ventures and RSTD's for several years

 

I guess next Aug will tell the tale.

[YamahaParExcellence]

I thought the full 5 year warranty on the new Venture was an extra cost option, and the standard warranty was 2 years???

 

Can't speak for the States..but in Canada, it is a full 5 years...covered. Also, different, is that in Canada, the SVTC comes with a 3 month Sirius subscription. The States does not, according to ChiefGunner.

[RandyR]

The US Yamaha page says: *One year limited factory warranty + Four years Yamaha Extended Service, = Five years coverage: Certain exclusions apply, see terms of each for details.

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/transcontinental-touring/pages/5-year-warranty-coverage

 

we had a thread discussing this late last year.

 

Its not clear to me if the 4 years of Extended Service is included in the base price and how it differs from Warranty.

 

I would think that its not the same as limited factory warranty, or they would have just said "5 years factory warranty" like they did for the RSV and RSTD.

 

I'll see if I can find that thread, but one of the US buyers of the new Venture might chime in?

 

edit: I see different interpretations of what the Extended Service means. I think we have a member who is or was with a Yamaha dealer. Maybe he can give us the true meaning?

Edited April 26, 2018 by RandyR

[ChiefGunner]

Can't speak for the States..but in Canada, it is a full 5 years...covered. Also, different, is that in Canada, the SVTC comes with a 3 month Sirius subscription. The States does not, according to ChiefGunner.

You are correct Sir. The SVTC comes with the 5 yr warranty but there is no paid introductory subscription to Sirius.

I’m GLAD you took my advice Joe & talked to Yamaha DIRECTLY. I told you your dealership was both deceptive and incompetent. I also said that you were making a lot of “noise” but just not to the right people. I also told you Yamaha was concerned about people’s orders on the SV getting fulfilled.

Your latest post after following my advice has proven me correct in ALL POINTS.

NOW, just watch and see if they don’t give you $1k towards any Yamaha extras for the bike because of all your troubles. Just remember “I told you so!”

 

Looking forward to seeing that ear to ear grin of yours on your new baby![ATTACH=CONFIG]112366[/ATTACH]

Edited April 27, 2018 by ChiefGunner

[YamahaParExcellence]

You are correct Sir. The SVTC comes with the 5 yr warranty but there is no paid introductory subscription to Sirius.

I’m GLAD you took my advice Joe & talked to Yamaha DIRECTLY. I told you your dealership was both deceptive and incompetent. I also said that you were making a lot of “noise” but just not to the right people. I also told you Yamaha was concerned about people’s orders on the SV getting fulfilled.

Your latest post after following my advice has proven me correct in ALL POINTS.

NOW, just watch and see if they don’t give you $1k towards any Yamaha extras for the bike because of all your troubles. Just remember “Intold you so!”

 

Looking forward to seeing that ear to ear grin of yours on your new baby!http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112366

 

Yep...you were right on all accounts. I needed to blow some hot air...into the right Head Office, ears...

 

The ear-to-ear, is already on my face as I type this message, Chief....oh..and shoulders now down below my butt...before, they were hanging off of the den ceiling...

 

I just need some 80F days, as you already have...so, send some of that stuff, North....

[ChiefGunner]

Yep...you were right on all accounts. I needed to blow some hot air...into the right Head Office, ears...

 

The ear-to-ear, is already on my face as I type this message, Chief....oh..and shoulders now down below my butt...before, they were hanging off of the den ceiling...

 

I just need some 80F days, as you already have...so, send some of that stuff, North....

 

Wish I could. I was planning a ride from here near Charlotte up to see a longtime friend in Lititz, PA, but the weather went downhill. It’s only an 8hr ride but he hasn’t seen “BigRed”. Weather turned bad 100% rain Friday & 70% Saturday so that trip isn’t happening. We’re forecast to have temps all next week in the upper 70’s with a couple 81’s.

I’ve only had her since Dec 29th and already got 5k miles! It’s so easy to hop in the saddle and just gobble up road!!

P.S. Should hear back from Yamaha tomorrow. Have been talking to them about the backup camera hookup location and type of connector needed. Will keep everyone informed.

[YamahaParExcellence]

Wish I could. I was planning a ride from here near Charlotte up to see a longtime friend in Lititz, PA, but the weather went downhill. It’s only an 8hr ride but he hasn’t seen “BigRed”. Weather turned bad 100% rain Friday & 70% Saturday so that trip isn’t happening. We’re forecast to have temps all next week in the upper 70’s with a couple 81’s.

I’ve only had her since Dec 29th and already got 5k miles! It’s so easy to hop in the saddle and just gobble up road!!

P.S. Should hear back from Yamaha tomorrow. Have been talking to them about the backup camera hookup location and type of connector needed. Will keep everyone informed.

 

Chief...please tell me again why you want a back up camera on your bike? You can't just look into either your left or right rear-view mirror, for anything obstructive? I've never heard of such a thing

 

I have a question...in all those 5,000 miles (which is amazing for how long you have had it..) have you ever heard a stone flip up..and get caught into the belt drive train? That's the one thing only that I have heard, one must be careful (no back country roads, if you can help it...) of, with belt drive.

[ChiefGunner]

Chief...please tell me again why you want a back up camera on your bike? You can't just look into either your left or right rear-view mirror, for anything obstructive? I've never heard of such a thing

 

I have a question...in all those 5,000 miles (which is amazing for how long you have had it..) have you ever heard a stone flip up..and get caught into the belt drive train? That's the one thing only that I have heard, one must be careful (no back country roads, if you can help it...) of, with belt drive.

 

My house is 2acres back on a gravel driveway. Just go slow and easy & no problem.

In answer to “why the backup camera” number 1 is because ITS COOL AS CRAP! Number 2 is because you can see much better directly how your rig is towing than you can in side view. Number 3 is that it’s really easy to get the license # of the jerk tailgating you! Number 4 (and you’ll understand this shortly with your own bike) the SVTC is a BIG girl. It’s sometimes difficult to see the back of her butt when moving backwards in a tight situation. The camera I’m getting has night IR and parking guide lines. I can see it clearly even in the dark.

Hope that helps!