Another road rager.

[RDawson]

I know I get highly irritated with cages but we're not gonna win a road rage battle. Watch this video from Florida and stay safe. Biker has to take some blame here.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/driver-sought-cops-ramming-motorcyclist-132728068.html

[snyper316]

I didn't really see the biker do a darn thing, he waved his arm. Did not deserve what he got tho

[RDawson]

It said he was trying to get car to pull over. Driver could possibly claim fear of violence or self defense. I agree he didn't deserve that but trying to stop a car is a losing proposition. I'll admit to trying to get my hands on a driver before with ill intentions. Just wanted everyone to see and stay safe.

[snyper316]

It said he was trying to get car to pull over. Driver could possibly claim fear of violence or self defense. I agree he didn't deserve that but trying to stop a car is a losing proposition. I'll admit to trying to get my hands on a driver before with ill intentions. Just wanted everyone to see and stay safe.

 

I only seen video didn't read it cause it wont show up I will reboot and see cause I am having issues...

[RDawson]

I only seen video didn't read it cause it wont show up I will reboot and see cause I am having issues...

I just replayed the link, the original I saw went to a second video with an interview of biker. The link didn't do that. I'll try to find the second one.

[Kretz]

Far too many of those a$$holes out there. We don't know what had happened previously BUT the cager should be brought up for attempted murder in my book. That was a deliberate act to try to injure or even kill the motorcyclist.

[RDawson]

Far too many of those a$$holes out there. We don't know what had happened previously BUT the cager should be brought up for attempted murder in my book. That was a deliberate act to try to injure or even kill the motorcyclist.

 

I agree. With lawyers today he'd probably get out of it claiming self defense though. At the VERY LEAST hit and run and failure to aid should stick. Much stiffer penalties are deserved but who knows in today's legal system. I'm definitely not defending his actions but trying to see it from a legal standpoint.

[Marcarl]

To me the rider is an idiot. He should never, ever put himself in such a position, sure the cage did wrong, can or should be charged, but looking from the seat of my MC, I would have gotten myself somewhere else. It was a battle I could not win!!!! As a rider, one had better be prepared to always take the short end of the stick, we have nothing to fight with, we are super vulnerable and best get that through our heads before we stretch a leg over a saddle. To think that we are feared and are macho can be deadly, as the video shows. In this case it seems the cage moved over deliberately, on an other occasion it may be accidental but with the same results.

[RandyR]

I think its hard to tell what led up to the cager turning into the motorcycle.

 

The biker clearly wasn't "just innocently minding his own business"

[Flyinfool]

Reading the comments on that page, It sounds like very close to 100% are happy to see the biker "get his".

 

I would really like to know more about what led up to this incident. All I found was one post that said someone in the car tossed something at the bike and caused damage to the bike. The bike rider said he was just trying to get the car to stop and exchange info. Of course the biker never did say what led up to someone in the car throwing something at the biker.

 

When 2 not to bright individuals get together on the road it will never end well. I am sure that there is a LOT more to this story. There has to be, that some one saw it coming enough to pull out a cell phone and start to shoot video, this was brewing for a while and the camera operator saw it coming for a while. That was not a dash cam, it was a hand held camera.

 

I am not taking either side yet, until I learn more.

When the biker stuck his arm straight out toward the car, was there something in his hand?

Did the biker actually hit the car mirror? Cant tell in the vid. Mirror smashing seems to be a popular pastime with some bikers.

[rickardracing]

Attempted murder by the cager. Pure and simple. Biker has every right to let a driver know they are an idiot and that does not give a cager the right to try and run a bike off the road.

[cowpuc]

WOWZY WOW WOW WOW ,,, road rage to the limit!!!

 

 

IMHO,, biker = guilty of Malicious Destruction of property if he touched the car causing damage to it.. If no contact was made = no crime (all sticks and stones stuff).

The driver of the car on the other hand,, unless he/she can prove self defense by clearly showing the biker was brandishing a firearm so his/her life was actually endangered = attempted 2nd/3rd degree murder and using a vehicle as a deadly weapon.

 

I too read the comment section on the link = IMHO, we do indeed live in some strange times where otherwise "normal" sane people consistently confuse inanimate objects that have absolutely NO control over their actions with animate human objects who are solely responsible for the results of the use/abuse of those inanimate objects in their possession. What REALLY makes this a scary thought is that there are actually people sitting in seats of judgement who also suffer from this confusion and who, at this time in the history of world - believe that cars/guns/motorcycles/lawnmowers/knives or even peanut butter sandwiches have a brain of their own and are out to get us!!

 

Bottom line: IMHO, if you are riding a motorcycle on public roadways during these days - ALWAYS ride like you are invisible and that no one - other than yourself - cares whether you live or die, cause they dont.. When the road rage starts (and it will) - if you have enough motor to simply outrun the culprit(s) = do so (my favorite ).. One of the HUGELY dynamic things about riding a bike that I have ALWAYS enjoyed is the multiple options that are always present when confronted with road rage and the need to escape thereof.. Even if you dont have the motor to just wick it up a little and say bye bye,, crossing medians or riding up an entrance ramp on the shoulder is always an option as is riding down sidewalks or cutting across yards to escape. Fact is,, I would rather pay a small fine for a citation that an ununderstanding LEO wrote me for doing so than I would end up being dead at the hands of some kid who chose to use his car as a weapon..

Simply pulling over and lettin them pass (I do this A LOT when driving our KIA cause I dont wanna end up K.I.A. with "he lost in a road rage contest" written on my tomb stone ) is another one that gets overlooked a lot IMHO.. Ya just gotta be careful when employing this method because allowing room for the perp to follow you to a stop can be a HUGE fatal no-no..

[djh3]

Yea we dont see what lead up to this exchange. Did the car cut him off? Did the car follow to close or something at a previous stop light? Biker bears some responsibility for actions also I think we agree. Clearly a 2 wrongs dont make a rite. Sucks we have to ride like everyone is out to kill us. Guy was lucky he missed that big ole concrete utility pole.

[Flyinfool]

This one was on the local news last night.

The biker was given a traffic citation for failure to stay in his lane. He did cross the line into the cars lane while he was taking a swing at the car.

[Venturous Randy]

Read where the cager was an illegal alien that had been here since 2014 and had no license or insurance. Car was found behind friends house with passenger side doors removed.

One of the things that I feel that has changed with me as I have been going the "maturing" process(getting old) is I am a lot more likely to just try to get away from a road rager than to engage. I have found that one of the most effective things is to let them see that I have a cell phone and that I am trying to get their tag number. I will not hesitate to call 911 when I see someone that is an obvious danger on the highway. Once they think you have reported their tag number, things usually settle down pretty quick.

Randy

[zagger]

There is no point in getting into a dispute with a car or truck. Just use the right wrist to leave the situation behind. No way to win that one.

zag

[bill in mn]

You can do everything right on a bike and still lose.

[djh3]

So once again someone is subjected to something perpetrated by someone who is committing illegal act that should not be here. Here illegally for 3yrs, no insurance (which I am paying for to cover my azz if he hits someone uninsured motorist) and not licenced to drive. What will they do with him? MAYBE give him room and board for a few months and let him stay as a "dreamer" ?

[baylensman]

AS others have stated we don't know what lead up to the "INCIDENT" was the biker trying to get the cars attention (cell phone or wallet on the roof? Something few off car earlier? Or just trying to get the guys attention for a real or imagined infraction?)

 

There is simply no excuse for what was done in that video, I don't care what lead up to it good or bad. The car and its driver were in no imminent danger. Escalation of violence is its own crime in certain jurisdictions.

 

I Agree than any biker who challenges a car had better be ready to move, don't assume the other guy won't dare to respond.