OrlinEngh Posted December 16, 2017 #1 Posted December 16, 2017 Doing a service on a 2007 Venture and when I took the wheel off I noticed what looked like a piece of chewed up wire. I started to clean up the grime and the old grease on the splines of the final drive where the wheel goes on and found more. And then noticed that the dust seal is gone from the bearing, The bearing feels good I have another hub that I used to turn the final drive. My question is how would the dust seal come off of the bearing, There isn't anything there to grab it or rub on it. I have to wonder that maybe the bearing had spun and loosened or tore the dust seal. Looking for a new one I can not find one anywhere I have looked, Yamaha said they are discontinued, looks to me the best thing to do would be to replace the final drive. Orlin
OrlinEngh Posted December 16, 2017 Author #2 Posted December 16, 2017 Went to take pics to show the owner, and noticed a small piece of rubber sticking out from the bearing pulled it out and turned it some more and can now feel that the bearing does have a ruff feel to it when turning. I thought that when I pushed the cycle around in the shop it seemed to push hard. Now I know why,
Freebird Posted December 16, 2017 #3 Posted December 16, 2017 I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about but I don't see anything related to the rear wheel that has been discontinued. Some part numbers have changed though. https://www.partshark.com/oemparts/a/yam/50045f91f8700209bc794e84/rear-wheel
MiCarl Posted December 16, 2017 #4 Posted December 16, 2017 I think he's talking about the oil seal and bearing on the final drive. PartsShark shows those both still available too.
OrlinEngh Posted December 17, 2017 Author #5 Posted December 17, 2017 I looked on Partshark and they don't have it either its the housing and bearing, they must come together, I found a final drive with just over 2,000 miles on it so I am thinking that is the way to go.
OrlinEngh Posted December 17, 2017 Author #6 Posted December 17, 2017 Here is a pic, you can see that the rubber dust seal is gone.
Freebird Posted December 17, 2017 #7 Posted December 17, 2017 At this link, it appears to show all the parts and nothing seems to be discontinued. https://www.partshark.com/oemparts/a/yam/50045f8ff8700209bc794e7c/drive-shaft
OrlinEngh Posted December 17, 2017 Author #8 Posted December 17, 2017 I just checked again and number 19 is unavailable.
Freebird Posted December 17, 2017 #9 Posted December 17, 2017 How about here? http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1998/V-MAX%201200%20-%20VMX12KC/DRIVE%20SHAFT/parts.html
OrlinEngh Posted December 17, 2017 Author #10 Posted December 17, 2017 nope says part obsolete. Here is the list of what cycles take this part. 1985 V MAX 1200 - VMX12N DRIVE SHAFT 1985 V MAX 1200 - VMX12NC DRIVE SHAFT 1986 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12S DRIVE SHAFT 1986 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12SC DRIVE SHAFT 1986 XVZ13DS DRIVE SHAFT 1986 XVZ13DSC DRIVE SHAFT 1987 XVZ13DT DRIVE SHAFT 1987 XVZ13DTC DRIVE SHAFT 1987 XVZ13T DRIVE SHAFT 1987 XVZ13TC DRIVE SHAFT 1988 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12U DRIVE SHAFT 1988 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12UC DRIVE SHAFT 1988 VENTURE ROYAL - XVZ13DU DRIVE SHAFT 1988 VENTURE ROYAL - XVZ13DUC DRIVE SHAFT 1988 XVZ13U DRIVE SHAFT 1988 XVZ13UC DRIVE SHAFT 1989 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12W DRIVE SHAFT 1989 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12WC DRIVE SHAFT 1989 VENTURE ROYALE - XVZ13DW DRIVE SHAFT 1989 VENTURE ROYALE - XVZ13DWC DRIVE SHAFT 1989 XVZ12DWC DRIVE SHAFT 1990 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12AC DRIVE SHAFT 1990 VMX12A_AC DRIVE SHAFT 1990 XVZ13DA DRIVE SHAFT 1990 XVZ13DAC DRIVE SHAFT 1991 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12B DRIVE SHAFT 1991 VMX12B_BC DRIVE SHAFT 1991 XVZ13DB DRIVE SHAFT 1991 XVZ13DBC DRIVE SHAFT 1992 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12D DRIVE SHAFT 1992 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12DC DRIVE SHAFT 1992 XVZ13DD DRIVE SHAFT 1992 XVZ13DDC DRIVE SHAFT 1993 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12E DRIVE SHAFT 1993 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12EC DRIVE SHAFT 1993 XVZ13DE DRIVE SHAFT 1993 XVZ13DEC DRIVE SHAFT 1994 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12F DRIVE SHAFT 1994 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12FC DRIVE SHAFT 1995 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12G DRIVE SHAFT 1995 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12GC DRIVE SHAFT 1996 ROYAL STAR - XVZ13AH DRIVE SHAFT 1996 ROYAL STAR - XVZ13AHC DRIVE SHAFT 1996 ROYAL STAR TOUR CLASSIC - XVZ13ATHC DRIVE SHAFT 1996 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12H DRIVE SHAFT 1996 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12HC DRIVE SHAFT 1997 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12J DRIVE SHAFT 1997 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12JC DRIVE SHAFT 1997 XVZ13AJ DRIVE SHAFT 1997 XVZ13AJC DRIVE SHAFT 1997 XVZ13ATJ DRIVE SHAFT 1997 XVZ13ATJC DRIVE SHAFT 1997 XVZ13LTJ DRIVE SHAFT 1997 XVZ13LTJC DRIVE SHAFT 1998 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12K DRIVE SHAFT 1998 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12KC DRIVE SHAFT 1998 XVZ13AK DRIVE SHAFT 1998 XVZ13AKC DRIVE SHAFT 1998 XVZ13ATK DRIVE SHAFT 1998 XVZ13ATKC DRIVE SHAFT 1998 XVZ13LTK DRIVE SHAFT 1998 XVZ13LTKC DRIVE SHAFT 1999 ROYAL STAR BOULEVARD - XVZ13AL DRIVE SHAFT 1999 ROYAL STAR BOULEVARD - XVZ13ALC DRIVE SHAFT 1999 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFL DRIVE SHAFT 1999 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFLC DRIVE SHAFT 1999 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12L DRIVE SHAFT 1999 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12LC DRIVE SHAFT 1999 XVZ13ATL DRIVE SHAFT 1999 XVZ13ATLC DRIVE SHAFT 1999 XVZ13LTL DRIVE SHAFT 1999 XVZ13LTLC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR (Yamaha Black) (CA Ed.) - XVZ13AMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR (Yamaha Black) - XVZ13AM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR BOULEVARD - XVZ1300AM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR BOULEVARD - XVZ1300AMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR TOUR CLASSIC (CA Ed.) - XVZ13ATMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR TOUR CLASSIC - XVZ1300ATM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR TOUR CLASSIC - XVZ13ATM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ1300LTM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR VENTURE (CA ED.) - XVZ13TFMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ1300TFM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 V-MAX (Yamaha Black) (CA Ed.) - VMX12MC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 V-MAX (Yamaha Black) - VMX12M DRIVE SHAFT 2000 V-MAX - VMX1200M DRIVE SHAFT 2000 V-MAX - VMX1200MC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 VENTURE MM LIMITED EDITION (CA Ed.) - XVZ13TFSMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 VENTURE MM LIMITED EDITION - XVZ1300TFSM DRIVE SHAFT 2000 VENTURE MM LIMITED EDITION - XVZ1300TFSMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 XVZ1300TFSM_TFSMC DRIVE SHAFT 2000 XVZ13LTM (Yamaha Black) DRIVE SHAFT 2000 XVZ13LTMC (Yamaha Black) (CA Ed.) DRIVE SHAFT 2001 ROYAL STAR BOULEVARD - XVZ1300AN DRIVE SHAFT 2001 ROYAL STAR BOULEVARD - XVZ1300ANC DRIVE SHAFT 2001 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13LTN DRIVE SHAFT 2001 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13LTNC DRIVE SHAFT 2001 V-MAX - VMX1200N DRIVE SHAFT 2001 V-MAX - VMX1200NC DRIVE SHAFT 2001 VENTURE (CA Ed.) - XVZ13TFNC DRIVE SHAFT 2001 VENTURE - XVZ1300TFN DRIVE SHAFT 2001 VENTURE - XVZ13TFN DRIVE SHAFT 2002 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE (Yamaha Black) - XVZ13TFSP DRIVE SHAFT 2002 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ1300TFSP DRIVE SHAFT 2002 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ1300TFSPC DRIVE SHAFT 2002 ROYAL STAR VENTURE (CA Ed.) - XVZ13TFPC DRIVE SHAFT 2002 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ1300TFP DRIVE SHAFT 2002 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFP DRIVE SHAFT 2002 V-MAX (New Silver Dust) - VMX12P DRIVE SHAFT 2002 V-MAX (New Silver Dust) - VMX12PC DRIVE SHAFT 2002 V-MAX - VMX1200P DRIVE SHAFT 2002 V-MAX - VMX1200PC DRIVE SHAFT 2002 XVZ1300TFSP_TFSPC DRIVE SHAFT 2003 FJR1300 - FJR1300R DRIVE SHAFT 2003 FJR1300 - FJR1300RC DRIVE SHAFT 2003 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ1300TFS DRIVE SHAFT 2003 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ1300TFSR DRIVE SHAFT 2003 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ1300TFSRC DRIVE SHAFT 2003 ROYAL STAR VENTURE (CA Ed.) - XVZ1300TFRC DRIVE SHAFT 2003 V-MAX - VMX12R DRIVE SHAFT 2003 V-MAX - VMX12RC DRIVE SHAFT 2003 XVZ1300TFR_TFRC DRIVE SHAFT 2004 FJR1300 - FJR1300S DRIVE SHAFT 2004 FJR1300 - FJR1300SC DRIVE SHAFT 2004 FJR1300ABS - FJR1300AS DRIVE SHAFT 2004 FJR1300ABS - FJR1300ASC DRIVE SHAFT 2004 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ13TFMS DRIVE SHAFT 2004 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ13TFMSC DRIVE SHAFT 2004 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFS DRIVE SHAFT 2004 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFSC DRIVE SHAFT 2004 V-MAX - VMX12SC1 DRIVE SHAFT 2004 V-MAX 1200 - VMX12S DRIVE SHAFT 2005 FJR1300 - FJR13T DRIVE SHAFT 2005 FJR1300 - FJR13TC DRIVE SHAFT 2005 FJR1300ABS - FJR13AT DRIVE SHAFT 2005 FJR1300ABS - FJR13ATC DRIVE SHAFT 2005 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ13TFMT DRIVE SHAFT 2005 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ13TFMTC DRIVE SHAFT 2005 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTT DRIVE SHAFT 2005 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTTC DRIVE SHAFT 2005 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFT DRIVE SHAFT 2005 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFTC DRIVE SHAFT 2005 V-MAX - VMX12T DRIVE SHAFT 2005 V-MAX - VMX12TC DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTMV DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT TOUR DELUXE CA - XVZ13CTMVC DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ13TFMV DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE CA - XVZ13TFMVC DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTV DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE CA - XVZ13CTVC DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFV DRIVE SHAFT 2006 ROYAL STAR VENTURE CA - XVZ13TFVC DRIVE SHAFT 2006 V-MAX - VMX12V DRIVE SHAFT 2006 VMX12V_VC DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTMW DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE - XVZ13TFMW DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR MIDNIGHT VENTURE CA - XVZ13TFMWC DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTW DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE CA - XVZ13CTWC DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFW DRIVE SHAFT 2007 ROYAL STAR VENTURE CA - XVZ13TFWC DRIVE SHAFT 2007 V-MAX CA - VMX12W1C DRIVE SHAFT 2007 VMX12W1_W1C DRIVE SHAFT 2007 XVZ13CTMW_CTMWC DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE (DEEP PURPLISH BLUE METALLIC L - BLACK METALLIC X) (CA ED.) - XVZ13CTXC DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE (DEEP PURPLISH BLUE METALLIC L - BLACK METALLIC X) - XVZ13CTX DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTXCL DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTXL DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE S - XVZ13CTSX DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE S - XVZ13CTSXC DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR VENTURE (VERY DARK RED METALLIC 2 - BLACK METALLIC X) (CA ED.) - XVZ13TFXC DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFXCR DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSX DRIVE SHAFT 2008 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S CA - XVZ13TFSXC DRIVE SHAFT 2008 XVZ13TFXR_TFXCR DRIVE SHAFT 2008 XVZ13TFXR_TFXRC DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTYCR DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE - XVZ13CTYR DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE S - XVZ13CTSY DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE S - XVZ13CTSYC DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFYCR DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR VENTURE - XVZ13TFYR DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSY DRIVE SHAFT 2009 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSYC DRIVE SHAFT 2010 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE S - XVZ13CTSZ DRIVE SHAFT 2010 ROYAL STAR TOUR DELUXE S - XVZ13CTSZC DRIVE SHAFT 2010 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSZ DRIVE SHAFT 2010 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSZC DRIVE SHAFT 2011 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSA DRIVE SHAFT 2011 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSAC DRIVE SHAFT 2012 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSBB DRIVE SHAFT 2012 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSBC DRIVE SHAFT 2013 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSD DRIVE SHAFT 2013 ROYAL STAR VENTURE S - XVZ13TFSDC DRIVE SHAFT A guy might want to pickup a final drive just to have a extra just incase
MiCarl Posted December 17, 2017 #11 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) The bearing and seal are still available. It seems unlikely the housing is shot. Disassemble the final drive and see what you've got. The reason the housing isn't available separately is because changing the casting requires re-shimming it. Not something they trust the service department with. #16 Bearing 93316-01403-00 #22 Oil Seal 93102-70167-00 Edited December 17, 2017 by MiCarl
OrlinEngh Posted December 17, 2017 Author #12 Posted December 17, 2017 Thanks I got it stuck in my head that the Housing Bearing was saying they were together. I will take it apart tomorrow and see what I have,
MiCarl Posted December 17, 2017 #13 Posted December 17, 2017 The bearing you're looking at is pressed onto the gear and I believe is a friction fit to the housing. If it doesn't pull right out heat it up. The aluminum will expand more than the steel and it should easily pull from the housing.
Freebird Posted December 17, 2017 #14 Posted December 17, 2017 Well, I'm obviously going blind or something. I posted two links to the parts and didn't see either time that the part was listed as unavailable. On the other hand, if anything happens when you try to remove the bearing, I do have a couple of spare rear assemblies if you end up needing one. I got them used so have no idea how many miles on them or what years they came off of but if you need one, I have them.
MiCarl Posted December 17, 2017 #15 Posted December 17, 2017 Well, I'm obviously going blind or something. I posted two links to the parts and didn't see either time that the part was listed as unavailable. He's talking about part #17 in the Drive Shaft diagram, 1FK-46152-01-00 .HOUSING, BEARING. It's not available, but I doubt he needs it. He can probably just replace the bearing and oil seal.
OrlinEngh Posted December 17, 2017 Author #16 Posted December 17, 2017 I found what tore up the oil seal and what was making the bearing feel ruff when turning the final drive, it looks like he must have picked up a piece of wire and it rapped up on the final drive between the oil seal and the bearing, These were a couple of pieces that wasn't balled up. I drained the oil from the final drive and nothing came out in the oil, refilled it and drained it again and nothing, the bearing is pretty well covered so I don't think that any got into the bearing, once I got the seal off and cleaned it out it turns nice and smooth. The things that one finds.
MiCarl Posted December 17, 2017 #17 Posted December 17, 2017 If I felt pretty good about how the bearing felt and looked I'd be tempted not to replace it. That would be a major job. I would plan on doing another inspection before a lot of miles to confirm it hadn't been damaged.
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