Guest Captain Video Posted January 31, 2007 #1 Posted January 31, 2007 I was just in Pep Boys here in central Jersey today and besides the usual Rotella 15-40 diesel (which I run in my RSV), they now have two different Castrol 15-40s (both for diesels) and for the first time I saw the Mobil Delvac 15-40 as well. A veritable potpourri of oils to choose from if you like running diesel oil, which I do. Anyone know if there are any significant differences among them or are they all basically the same?
Squeeze Posted January 31, 2007 #2 Posted January 31, 2007 are your kidding ? Diesel Oil in a Bike ?? ?? I think this Questions belongs at Jokes and Humor :rotf:
stardbog Posted January 31, 2007 #3 Posted January 31, 2007 Yo Lutz. Some of motorcycle owners use Shell rotella diesel engine oil, For their motorcycles. I know Guy from My motorcycle club, he is using nothing but rotella oil for last 20 years in his motorcycles, and he made some gooood milage.He mostly owned Harley's and they are same as diesel trucks, burn or lick oil, so no need to change oil so often, every week just add quarter (1L)
Squeeze Posted January 31, 2007 #4 Posted January 31, 2007 Hey Dan, i know those leaking Hardley can't Repair Engines ... if they run well with a Diesel-designed Oil, ok... i probably can imagine that ... but the V4 Engine is a different Type, lots of RPM, fast travelling Pistons and so on, the Oilfilm in the Cylinders will get lost. If so, the Damage will be enough to throw it away. I can't imagine that someone will test some cheaper Oil on a pretty expensive Engine. For what shall this be good ? Saving 10 Bucks in 3 Months ?
Yammer Dan Posted January 31, 2007 #5 Posted January 31, 2007 Use a good one without friction modifiers and change it often.
Kurt Posted January 31, 2007 #6 Posted January 31, 2007 Diesel oil is the closest to motorcycle specific oil if not buying motorcycle oil. I run diesel oil in almost everything and have for years. My father started this over 40 years ago and had no problems. It was a lot easier to have one oil on the shelf than 3 or more. I quit using the diesel oil in my pickup and blazer because of the high phosphorous content. The phosporous will damage the catylitic converter if the oil happens to burn or vaporize and go out the exhaust. The high phosphorous content is exactly the reason you use it in a bike. Phosphorous along with zinc protects in metal on metal situations. Cost and availability are a couple of reasons for using diesel oil. The thing with oil is buy good oil and change it when it needs to be changed.
mm482 Posted January 31, 2007 #7 Posted January 31, 2007 Rotella 15 w 40 works for me. Earl 86 VR 00 RSV
timk Posted January 31, 2007 #8 Posted January 31, 2007 My bike has a catalytic converter, so I'm glad I stayed away from the diesal. Thanks for the heads up, I was considering it.
Saddle_Bag Posted January 31, 2007 #9 Posted January 31, 2007 I tried the Castrol 15-w40 diesel for the first time this past Fall. Price and availability , two big selling points. My 84 liked it as well.
wizard Posted January 31, 2007 #10 Posted January 31, 2007 Been using Shell Rotella Syn in all my bikes for years now. No problems yet. That includes Triumphs and Harleys. I didn't think the Yamaha should be any different, this is my first Yamaha. Am I missing something?
Buzzard1 Posted January 31, 2007 #11 Posted January 31, 2007 I used Rotella and Rotella syn both in my VTX1100 with no problems. Also used Mobil 1 syn. I will switch to Mobil 1 syn "Gold Cap" when I get a few more miles on White Lightin-----Buzz
FROG MAN Posted January 31, 2007 #12 Posted January 31, 2007 I'm going to try that Rotella Synthetic in all five Yamaha's this spring. I like the idea of just one oil in the garage. Time will tell.
Guest tnbillybob Posted February 1, 2007 #13 Posted February 1, 2007 Yo Lutz. Some of motorcycle owners use Shell rotella diesel engine oil, For their motorcycles. I know Guy from My motorcycle club, he is using nothing but rotella oil for last 20 years in his motorcycles, and he made some gooood milage.He mostly owned Harley's and they are same as diesel trucks, burn or lick oil, so no need to change oil so often, every week just add quarter (1L) Hey Dan, FYI neither of my two harleys leak or burn oil - tc88 with 40k, and 95cuin bigbore with 15K. Love my yammy, but gotta defend the HD:stirthepot:
Guest Captain Video Posted February 1, 2007 #14 Posted February 1, 2007 Yes, though it may sound silly on the surface, if you research the ingredients (what's in it and what's NOT in it), 15-40 diesel oil makes an excellent motorcycle oil. But my purpose was not to do a tutorial here. I was just curious if anyone knew if the four of them were pretty much the same or not. I also mentioned it because I've seen threads mentioning how some guys couldn't get Rotella, others have never even seen Delvac on the shelf, and here I had those two and TWO more to boot right in the same store. FWIW, I had a friend whose one of those types that researches everything the the "nth" degree and insisted the Mobil 1 Truck and SUV oil was the ultimated MC oil. I tried it and could tell zero difference in engine sound, power, gas mileage or shifting compared to the Rotella. Needless to say I switched back and stocked up on the Rotella. To each his own.
stardbog Posted February 1, 2007 #15 Posted February 1, 2007 Hey Dan, FYI neither of my two harleys leak or burn oil - tc88 with 40k, and 95cuin bigbore with 15K. Love my yammy, but gotta defend the HD:stirthepot: :rotf::rotf:Sorry Howard, didn't mean to But as Yamma owners, we have to make jokes about other brands. Or Like this one BMW sticker. http://www.aerostich.com/files/images/3462.jpg
Boody Posted February 1, 2007 #16 Posted February 1, 2007 I've owned a 1983 and still own a 1987 Venture Royal (as well as a 1980 XS850G inbetween the two) and have run the 15W40 Rotella in all of them. Try searching the Venturer's web site too. They also have several recomendations for this oil in the Venture and V-Max bikes.
SNOW700R Posted February 2, 2007 #17 Posted February 2, 2007 I use the Rotella Syn in 2 v-4 Royal Stars, Yamaha & Polaris 4 wheelers,& my John Deere x 495 Diesel. This oil seems to work super, price @ Wallyword cant be beat. I think I paid 14.95 a gallon last fall when I bought 3 gallons. Even seemed to quiet down the whine. Hope it works in the Goldwing if I switch. Yamaha, I'm going to the Mpls bike show Saturday morning,hope I see a Venturized Stratoliner to keep me faithful!!!!!!!!!!!!.Jeff.
Mean Dog Posted February 2, 2007 #18 Posted February 2, 2007 I have been using Shell Rotella Syn in my 06 RSV and it is quieter and shifts smoother....Let 'em laugh, I ran the same thing in my 18-wheeler and it had 500,000 miles on it when I sold it and it's still running without a rebuild! http://cybergifs.com/dogs/RunWolf.gif Dog
stardbog Posted February 2, 2007 #19 Posted February 2, 2007 My dealer is changing oil for me right now, I have service contract until 20,000 miles, thats mean one more oil change , after that I'll switch to rotella or mobile 1 sintetic. Any way i'm changing oil religiosly after 2000 miles,. between dealer oil changes i use Harley's 20-50 V twins on summer and mobile 1 5-30 in winter, so far no problems.
Guest japalk Posted February 9, 2007 #20 Posted February 9, 2007 I used Rotella and Rotella syn both in my VTX1100 with no problems. Also used Mobil 1 syn. I will switch to Mobil 1 syn "Gold Cap" when I get a few more miles on White Lightin-----Buzz If it has "energy conservation" in circular logo on the back it is not recommended for wet clutches. I know a lot get away with it but you will find you're replacing the plates sooner that would otherwise be the case. John:detective:
Buzzard1 Posted February 9, 2007 #21 Posted February 9, 2007 If it has "energy conservation" in circular logo on the back it is not recommended for wet clutches. I know a lot get away with it but you will find you're replacing the plates sooner that would otherwise be the case. John:detective: The "gold cap" is not energy conservation oil. The "gray" cap IS. ----Buzz
Guest japalk Posted February 9, 2007 #22 Posted February 9, 2007 FWIW, I had a friend whose one of those types that researches everything the the "nth" degree and insisted the Mobil 1 Truck and SUV oil was the ultimated MC oil. I tried it and could tell zero difference in engine sound, power, gas mileage or shifting compared to the Rotella. Needless to say I switched back and stocked up on the Rotella. To each his own. To be honest virtually any oil without the energy tag will do just fine, I use a diesel because I beat mine (1300 Max) ard very ard the diesel has a high pressure rating and helps protect the trannie. John:detective:
ddoggma Posted July 31, 2009 #23 Posted July 31, 2009 Oil change time, and I'm going with the Delvac 1300. It was $10.00 a gal. At Wally world. I got two. I think I'm gonna put it in the Van too. Next bike change I think I'll try the Delo400 from Chevron. What ever one shifts the best in the 3000 interval will get the job. The bike likes the Rotella Dino thats in it now. But I heard the Delvac is very good stuff and has a new formula etc.
Tombo Posted July 31, 2009 #24 Posted July 31, 2009 My Harley owner's manual specifies diesel engine oil if you can't get their Harley brand. Based upon what I have read here I will probably use the same specification in my RSV.
Renne Posted July 31, 2009 #25 Posted July 31, 2009 Been running Schaeffer 20/50 in all my bikes, street rods and custom for the last 6 years. Have a close friend running Schaeffer that had his HD contaminated with anti-freez at a motel. (Prank). We dumped the oil, flushed the motor, re oiled, saved a motor. If 53 over the road 18 wheelers from one company can get 63K between oil changes, I'll trust that product for my "08" RSV! NO,, I won't use Diesel oil in my gas motor,,,diesel is formulated for diesels, there are industry "packages" built into the formula that are specific to diesel and their by-products , (acids etc etc) not common to gas motors. Renne
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