3rd gen engine.

[baylensman]

So is the RSV engine the same as the Raider but with a different trans clutch set up and retuned exhaust, or is it totally unique?

 

If it is unique will that engine and trans combo cross over to the Raider in 2018?

The corp. web site isn't a lot of help on that

[cowpuc]

Having never actually owned either of the two (so ya may wanna take this with a grain of salt till a real 113 inch Yam V-Twin guru steps up with exact info) but having some experience with my nephews Strat (same motor as the Raider) and now having seen the guts of the new one first hand (see vids below) I would say the base engine cases/blocks are going to prohibit a swap without some form of frame/mounting alterations as well as swing arm mods..

The new one has an xtra gear, an xtra alternator, an xtra balance shaft making its bottom end completely different from my perspective. It is also a right hand drive (meaning the belt that drives the rear pulley is on the opposite side of the Raiders which is on the riders left side as he is riding his scoot) so mods to the swing arm assembly would probably have to be done.

Looking at the new ones internal components (and some top end external parts too (like push rod tubes) I do believe that Mom Yam chose to share numerous parts between the two though = 4 valve head, rods, pistons, push rods, cam chest parts ect.. Hope this helps in some small way..

Puc

 

 

[BlueSky]

Doesn't the new engine have a dry sump? Is that different from the Raider?

[baylensman]

Thanks Puc, I was just thinking of jumping to a street cruiser and letting the RSV go for the next 5-7 years till i'm truly retired, especially since SWMBO doesn't ride with me anymore. Was thinking should I go whole hog on a new one because its got more motor and trans so to speak or save a few ducets and grab a low mileage used scoot locally. I know of one a S model with custom paint and just enough after market goodies to stand out.

[cowpuc]

You are more than welcome Bay, always happy to yak scoots my friend.. Following up on your reply,, IMHO, the new one has no more motor than your 2nd Gen - matter of fact, if its performance we are referring too? In any category your 2nd Gen is gonna put a strong whooping on it - speaking from seat of the pants IMHO experience. Quite frankly,, Mom Yam screwed up by chasing the Motor Company on their terms. If your thoughts are on an air cooled V-Twin touring bike that has been massaged to aquire its potential performance because you just love the V-Twin and want to spend the big bucks - I would hop right down to the Harley shop and get the real deal..

On the same token though,, I know exactly what your talking about concerning the Raider S!! GORGEOUS scoot and, because of those bikes never sold for (like Mom Yam is trying to do with the new Venture) or realised the resale value of the comparable HD Dyna line, you can find really really nice scoots for bottom dollar if ya shop = good value IMHO.. Another thing to note about the Raider compared to the new Venture = the new one is way neutered (I still contend this is the result of hanging a bunch of xtra weight on the crank and extreme hp to wieght ration differences) compared to a stock Raider.. Gonna go out on a limb and say 20% or more loss stock for stock for stock, saddle for saddle.. I would go with keeping the RSV and landing a Raider if it were me..

Mann,, why did Mom Yam do that,, she really coulda turned the touring world upside down if she woulda just listened to us club members..

Just thinking out loud here,, ya know,, another thought you might consider.. If ya no longer got a passenger and gonna be rippin 1 up,, maybe figure out a way to Bagger your RSV.. Look into a docking plate to make it snap off and on (like HD offers for their Ultra's) = instant cruiser and wayyy cool IMHO..