As to-do list grows, fears begin to rise up as to when to continue on and when to sel

[s.tyler58]

Found these shots of my 80 1100. Case in point I may have given up on her too soon but then again she was not a venture.

 

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[BlueSky]

One of the best features of a GW is the low center of gravity making it easier to handle at low speed. Lots of choices in this world. In 2010, I loved the 2006 GW that I test rode but I didn't want to pay the $17,500 the dealer wanted for it. And I've always loved the looks of a first Gen Yamaha Venture. Beside I would never have been a member of this site if I had bought that GW.

[s.tyler58]

Looking back at those photos, brings to mind a line from, yesI'm going to admit this, one of my favorite movies, Katharine Hepburn in The Philadelphia Story, " my, she was YAR..."

It was 8 years ago. Notice the pipes? Needed to be rejetted. I never could afford her needs. As far as a loud cruiser goes, I believe that anything that draws attention to my motorcycle in today's traffic just adds 100' to the range of people who know I must be somewhere.

 

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[s.tyler58]

I dont know you guys,, gonna sound like Pt 4 of a Grumpy Old Man movie but think I will say it anyway.. Fact is,, I think Ty,, like all the rest of us, needs to examine closely what exactly he is trying to obtain thru this experience. I know from personal experience that wants, needs, desires and all that change over time.

Case in point,, my next door neighbor had a gorgeous 1500 carborated Wing that he purchased from his brother in law to help him out.. Bike was extremly low mileage for an 89 = under 25k and just beautiful.. One day my neighbor, who hadnt ridden in years decided he and his wife were gonna go CTFW with Tip and I for an afternoon and off we went.. Not to far into the trip and he/we discovered that, because of sitting for a while, the Wing had developed a nasty dead spot when taking off from a corner.. No problembo I says,, you and I will pull the carbs and clean em (thinkin old school Wing).. After looking closer at the Wing design I/we found out that Honda decided to go to a 2 barrel carb buried between the frame spars that someone who's hands were in much better shape than mine would have to dismantle = couldnt even get a screw driver between the carb and frame hardley, talk about tight.. A later trip to a Honda shop/mechanic to clean the carb resulted in a 1250 dollar bill.. After getting that resolved the bike sat for another 6 months with only an occasional start up just to keep things operating. When asked why, my neighbor said it was just to much bike for he and his wife, she simply could no longer tolerate sitting on a bike saddle for more than 1/2 hour a day - MAX.. They sold the thing this spring at a major loss and picked up a little Motor Home to do their CTFW(S) on..

Thinking out loud here Ty,, maybe do a little soul searching about exactly what it is that you. personally, are trying to accomplish here.. You wanna ride and tinker on an old scoot that every seal, bearing, wire connection and moveable part as well as stationary part is over 30 years old? We are here for you if that is the case.. You got a ton of cash and wanna turn to labor costs of 100 bucks an hour and beyond = lots of wealthy folks do just that and I tip my hat to em. You do that and you will be just as welcome here as any one... You decide to bail on the project,, take loss,, pick up a smaller, newer, V-Twin Honda Shadow or one of those Honda 800 Pacific Coast things that look like they would run forever and just jump on and go = yep,, still 100% welcome here and still to all and any VR Event or rally.. Shoot,, pick up a new left over Yamaha big scooter,, no shifting, easy to mount cause its step thru and head to the Sturgis Rally after doing one of our Maintenance Days - I would be glad to camp next to ya and wouldn't feel at all uneasy about cruising next to ya on a good all day CTFW..

Just a simple matter of figuring out what is gonna make you happy and fulfilled in your CTFW experience..

All that said Ty,, dont think I ever did hear whether or not your thinking of touring 2 up once ya get a bike where ya want it? That alone could make a big difference in the deciding here IMHO.. Toss another person on there and yea,, you are pretty much gonna find the need for a full blown touring scoot in your man cave..

I will say this,, from my perspective,, bikes are a lot like the people that ride em,, the older they get the more inclined to need maintenance in area's that one would not even think maintenance should be needed.. Hmm,, that was kind of profound = kind of sorta?

I ride one up. May give a little thrill ride to someone occasionally. Haven't ridden with even another bike for quite some time. Hoping to meet some friends this summer when she's running more reliably. Haven't seen an attractive, age appropriate woman in 10 years. Been divorced 15. I don't know what love is supposed to look like at 60. I know how to fall in love at 30 or 17 but... I tried match a year ago, almost made me suicidal to see how many 300 pound snugglers are attracted to a skinny guy. When you've spent years together and you've grown into your shapes together, you love each other and don't notice. Shouldn't a mature woman who wants to find a good man have a little more interest in her appearance? Many people's first reaction is that I'm too picky and need to settle. I'm not settling. I know that no matter what I will know love perfected when I get to my next destination. That faith Makes most days tolerable. Having hired a beautiful 26 year old, single girl makes life looks like it's supposed to be more fun.

 

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[s.tyler58]

I ride one up. May give a little thrill ride to someone occasionally. Haven't ridden with even another bike for quite some time. Hoping to meet some friends this summer when she's running more reliably. Haven't seen an attractive, age appropriate woman in 10 years. Been divorced 15. I don't know what love is supposed to look like at 60. I know how to fall in love at 30 or 17 but... I tried match a year ago, almost made me suicidal to see how many 300 pound snugglers are attracted to a skinny guy. When you've spent years together and you've grown into your shapes together, you love each other and don't notice. Shouldn't a mature woman who wants to find a good man have a little more interest in her appearance? Many people's first reaction is that I'm too picky and need to settle. I'm not settling. I know that no matter what I will know love perfected when I get to my next destination. That faith Makes most days tolerable. Having hired a beautiful 26 year old, single girl makes life looks like it's supposed to be more fun.

 

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Listen to Call Me The Breeze by Lynyrd Skynyrd on Napster: https://npstr.cm/l3s0ch

 

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[s.tyler58]

Listen to Call Me The Breeze by Lynyrd Skynyrd on Napster: https://npstr.cm/l3s0ch

 

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Does this Moo moo make my butt look big? Hahaha

 

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[Flyinfool]

Does this Moo moo make my butt look big? Hahaha

 

My girl has learned real quick to not ask any question that she does not want an honest answer to. Sometimes the truth hurts, and that can make me painfully honest at times.

[mraf]

This thread was made to Hi-jack. Starts out with what to do {bike} ends up to

All I can say about the original thread intent. Is once fixed, you'll never sell if you have been V-4 bit. Only if you can't safely ride it.

[s.tyler58]

I am so riddled with ADHD I can't get through a 40 second conversation without hijacking it in one way or another.

 

I rode what's most likely the last trip of the year today. Got clutch slipping in 4th and up. Ordered new Springs, going to tackle that myself. Tomorrow it's supposed to be near 50 again so I'll use that time to load up my shop in the garage & move it to my heated shop in my office. I bought my lift from Harbor Freight. I'm ready to start wrenchin' on my own.

 

Was a good ride. I did something I rarely do and didn't put any music in my ears. Everything sounded great. I really like these Roadstar pipes. You purists probably wouldn't like riding with me cuz she's loud. But I like that. And she sounds badass wink. Oh and the collector was fine. He said something about the connections needing sealed up. The stock Mufflers were crumbs inside.

 

My handlebars seem to be in different position than what I was accustomed to. Or at least think I was accustomed to.

 

It's good to have brakes! After the summer with very very poor braking, even the stock brakes on this first gen feel good.

 

First couple hundred miles without getting asphyxiated by a fuel leak or leaking exhaust!

 

Lookout snyper. You'll be having a dude looking for a place to put his tent in your yard next spring. Now to tear the body apart and start working on plastic again.

 

Ok, here's a question.

 

I have foot boards on this bike. The shift lever rotates 45 degrees when shifting the front lever on the rocker up. Reverse shift pattern so that would be from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd...

 

The rocker arm is tight on the shaft. The entire shaft rotates almost 1/4 turn. This makes it impossible to use the rear lever of The Rocker because it's below the footboard when that starts to move. It's still shifts fine but I never know where that front of the shifter will be when I need to engine brake or start slowing down its I'm going to kill myself. How many thousands of dollars am I looking at now? I could try to make a video if you think that that would help.

 

 

 

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[cowpuc]

One time I put that little arm that attaches to the shift shaft that sticks out behind the stator on upside down and it did exactly like you are talking about Ty.. If memory serves me correctly, I believe that little arm has to point upward when sitting on the shift shaft to be correct.. The other way and the shift pattern is backwards (good anti - theft) and, as I recall, also takes a longer throw to shift..

Also, condition of the joints (sloppy?) would add to distance of travel needed to shift..

[s.tyler58]

Thanks. I'll make a video in the morning and it'll be a lot more clear than trying to figure out what I'm saying

 

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[s.tyler58]

Thanks. I'll make a video in the morning and it'll be a lot more clear than trying to figure out what I'm saying

 

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I just saw this quote of mine from earlier in this string and the 3800 includes about 900 that I was already planning on from those guys so let's say 1900 Plus 3800 Plus a bike lift

 

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[s.tyler58]

I vote for you to stick with it too. I spent all last winter picking away at mine with a space heater next to me. My goal last winter was to get my 83' in a safe reliable road worthy state, with less emphasis on the aesthetics. After spending the whole summer riding it, i can say it is a good riding/running motorcycle that hasn't really given me any hassle. I too have more $ into the bike than i could sell it for, but sometimes one needs to look at what its worth in not in $$. I am mechanically inclined but my experience with older motorcycles is very limited and i am learning all the time. Dont be afraid to dig into the old beast, most rebuild kits for the clutch and brake parts are fairly inexpensive and the way i look at it is if you pay attention while taking something apart you can probably put it back together and if you can't somebody here will be able to guide you.

 

Clutch cylinder- fairly easy to get to...just buy a new one, they dont cost alot more than a rebuild kit and from what I've read the rebuild kits are hit and miss

 

Brakes- new lines are fairly simple, i delinked mine, have 2 lines coming from the right hand master cylinder, one line going to each front caliper which i rebuilt myself on my workbench with Yamaha parts in an afternoon

 

Fuel gauge- probably one of two things here(or both)1. the sending unit on the top of the tank needs romoved and inspected, it can be tested with a multimeter as per the instructions found in the service manual on this site here

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?3384-First-Gen-Service-Manuals

 

If it checks out ok with a meter put it back in the bike, if it doesnt, you may need to follow the following procedure...

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?10519-Fuel-Sending-Unit-Adjustment.

 

Once all the above is established with the sending unit and it is back in the bike try it out, if its still no go...

2. The back of the dash needs to be re-soldered, again something that isnt that hard, i did mine but if you arent comfortable with it someone at an electronics repair place should be able to do it pretty quick and cheap http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?33328-Information-Display-Repair

 

I can't comment on the exhaust and collector because i haven't had to go down that road yet but im sure someone here should be able to help, check the local classifieds for somone parting out a bike like yours

 

Don't get discouraged, focus on each job one at a time and you will get there

 

I'm ready to put in my new Clutch Springs but can't find anything about the clutch other than the hydraulics in these manuals. One manual is electrical and the owners' manual doesn't go into any detail. AM I missing something?

 

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[rbig1]

once you take it apart or say open it up will become simple to do. made a big difference in my first gen there are pics of how to do this on this site. did you order gasket replacement

[rbig1]

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?491-Barnett-Clutch-Installation just the first two steps will get ya there and back

[s.tyler58]

once you take it apart or say open it up will become simple to do. made a big difference in my first gen there are pics of how to do this on this site. did you order gasket replacement

Thanks. I did remember the gasket! And thanks to my mechanic who mentioned under his breath, don't forget to drain the oil first, I remembered to drain the oil first, threw a new filter in while I had her empty

 

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[s.tyler58]

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?491-Barnett-Clutch-Installation just the first two steps will get ya there and back

This says to torque to 8 pounds. I'm guessing that's foot pounds. I take that X 12 to convert it to inch pounds?

 

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[rbig1]

well on side stand you would not have lost oil. Never thought to mention that will just drip a few drops unless its to full. Be the same amount to break the old ones loose. set wrench to what you think will break one loose if it clicks before coming loose add some to it.

[Flyinfool]

If a bolt is torqued to 8 lbs it will take more than 8 to break it free. Using breakaway torque is both hard on the torque wrench and this method on these skinny bolts may have you looking for the EZ Out. Look at lug nuts, mine are torqued to 150 lb/ft, I do this with no problem using the 20 inch long torque wrench, when it is time to remove them I need a 24 inch breaker bar with another 2 foot cheater pipe to break them loose.

 

The mechanic probably works on a lift that holds the bike level, while level the oil will pour out when you remove the cover, leaning on the side stand the oil will be on the other side of the engine. Also leaning on the side stand makes it easier to work on the clutch side because it is pointed up.

[SpencerPJ]

I take that X 12 to convert it to inch pounds?

 

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Yes, 8 Ft lbs = 96 Inch lbs

[s.tyler58]

If a bolt is torqued to 8 lbs it will take more than 8 to break it free. Using breakaway torque is both hard on the torque wrench and this method on these skinny bolts may have you looking for the EZ Out. Look at lug nuts, mine are torqued to 150 lb/ft, I do this with no problem using the 20 inch long torque wrench, when it is time to remove them I need a 24 inch breaker bar with another 2 foot cheater pipe to break them loose.

 

The mechanic probably works on a lift that holds the bike level, while level the oil will pour out when you remove the cover, leaning on the side stand the oil will be on the other side of the engine. Also leaning on the side stand makes it easier to work on the clutch side because it is pointed up.

I'm working on the lift so I can get it up where I can see into it. Question. Do I want to use a gasket sealer along with this gasket? Doesn't seem like there was any on there before and it cleaned up real nice...

 

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[Flyinfool]

You can if you want to and it makes you feel better, just do not use a hardening type of sealer or you will regret it next time it has to come off.

[Geobob]

There are people on this site that have done everything on your list. If you get stuck while doing something the solution is just a posting away.

 

As mentioned above, unless you have a lot of spare cash to spen on a hobby, owning a 30 year old anything is probably not for someone that is not willing to dive in to do the work. Fixing up your bike will be a labor of love, not for profit, you will never get back the cash you spend. With all of that said, My vote is to keep it and let us help you along.

 

As for tools, getting new tools is always a good thing, Many super special tools can be borrowed or rented. If you don't already have it, the first tool should be a good set of JIS screwdrivers. There are NO Phillips screws on your bike, they are all JIS.

 

I never knew there was difference in Phillips head screws. Thanks for pointing that out. I think as old as these bikes are we are all likely to run up against a screw that is tight. The right driver should be the first place to start.

[bongobobny]

Yup! The difference is the angle of the slots! I think the JIS has a bigger angle and that is why the SAE rounds out the head...

[s.tyler58]

Yup! The difference is the angle of the slots! I think the JIS has a bigger angle and that is why the SAE rounds out the head...

A friend on here explained to me that the JIS are square-cut inside curve between the teeth versus an American metric which is rounded on the inside of the teeth. And the angles are different. I've still been trying to find some on the Shelf locally. I need to just order some I guess.

 

in the Eternal scheme of things, this isn't even the blink of an eye.