Spooning tires?

[s.tyler58]

Y'all talk about spooning tires. I always have them mounted. Does spooning refer to a tool used in mounting or something?

 

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[snyper316]

Y'all talk about spooning tires. I always have them mounted. Does spooning refer to a tool used in mounting or something?

 

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Goto harbor freight and look for tire spoons, or walk into motorcycle shop and ask for a tire spoon.... But yes its a tool

 

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[s.tyler58]

My brothers say I'm a tool too! But thanks.

 

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[BlueSky]

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?127689-Anyone-Used-the-Motion-Pro-Bead-Breaker-Tire-Irons-Shown-in-this-Video&highlight=motion+bead+breaker

[cowpuc]

Here is the act of spooning a motorcycle tire on caught on recording by some wacko in Michigan Ty.. If you do go with picking up a set of tire irons (spoons), it always helps (IMHO) to take the new spoons and clean the ends up with a grinder and then sand paper to get a really nice clean taper on the straight end of them.. Also,, the little hook on the end of some of them (I have had my spoons a long time but I think the HF spoons have the hook) are really handy if dealing with tires that cant be heated before mounting (just lay em in the sun for a while).. The "hook" will help get under the edge of the tire.. Also,,, I use to use rim protectors (if your careful you dont need em) in the form of sliced up plastic quart oil jugs = that particular plastic is amazingly soft and works just as good as store bought protectors and you can usually find those quarts in any gas station garbage can if ya need to do an emergency swap on the road.. Learning to swap out ur own tires is a good plan = just in case ya get stranded while out CTFW IMHO...

[snyper316]

My brothers say I'm a tool too! But thanks.

 

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Yeah and I'm sure other people say the same of me but owell....[emoji23]

 

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[s.tyler58]

Got a tough question for you guys. My cousin, who owns the BMW motorcycle dealership here, has one mechanic but agreed to work my tire mounting in and thought I should have had it Friday or Saturday. He's squeezing me in. They closed Sunday and Monday for their weekend. So I'm hoping to have it tonight. In the meantime my mother took another fall and we've been holding a vigil while waiting for her to finish this Mortal time. This is the first time I've taken off from work in 8 years and have plenty of time that I could be wrenching and riding while waiting and taking turns sitting with Mom and Dad. Parents are in Lincoln I'm in Omaha. So my question, do I bug my cousin today to push for it or just be patient? I really wish I could be making trips back and forth on it for my mind's sake? Mom is 89. Has dementia that was making her so frustrated. We never thought we'd lose mom first but dad's being strong and they've had a long good life we know where she's going she's going to be fine, finally have clarity she's so searched for all her life. It's really tough blessing.

 

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[bongobobny]

Family first IMHO!!!

 

You can buy another bike, you can not buy another set of parents...

[Yammer Dan]

Got a tough question for you guys. My cousin, who owns the BMW motorcycle dealership here, has one mechanic but agreed to work my tire mounting in and thought I should have had it Friday or Saturday. He's squeezing me in. They closed Sunday and Monday for their weekend. So I'm hoping to have it tonight. In the meantime my mother took another fall and we've been holding a vigil while waiting for her to finish this Mortal time. This is the first time I've taken off from work in 8 years and have plenty of time that I could be wrenching and riding while waiting and taking turns sitting with Mom and Dad. Parents are in Lincoln I'm in Omaha. So my question, do I bug my cousin today to push for it or just be patient? I really wish I could be making trips back and forth on it for my mind's sake? Mom is 89. Has dementia that was making her so frustrated. We never thought we'd lose mom first but dad's being strong and they've had a long good life we know where she's going she's going to be fine, finally have clarity she's so searched for all her life. It's really tough blessing.

 

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Prayers for Mother and family.

[snyper316]

Prayers for your Mom and your Family. I could understand needing the motorcycle to clear your head. Maybe it is just not time just yet. Be patient and it will all work itself out fine.

[s.tyler58]

Mom hung on another day! We had a wonderful day with my 4 brothers and their wives. Dad has his moments. Today is day 6 of the vigil. I think mom enjoyed us all with our stories and tales. Found a journal of mom's that none of us kids had ever seen before. Photos and tales of my Great-Great-Great Grandmother's from 1887! Also was a blast hearing my brother's begin to brag about all the stuff they got away with while teens and young men. Something about all of us being in or 50's and 60's now, we no longer fear the parents wrath and could tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth! (Maybe just a little embelishment for color). Man did we have fun in the 70's! And nary a scratch to any of us! (You should have seen the faces of some of our kids to hear their dad's tales! PRICELESS!

 

No call from cousin Jim on the tire but I didn't even notice til driving home at 1:30 this morning. Dad, Bless his heart, remembers that I have another bike but not that I am unable to ride it yet. Three times a day I get to explain that no, I didn't ride it down today. He knows the joy I get when CTFW and wants to see me having a good time. (If he told it once he told it 20 times, the story of how he was trying to follow me on my KZ650 back in 78, we had a 60 mile trip for one reason or another, "Man, We were at the last light on the edge of town and when it turned green I looked over and Steve was beside me and then he was gone! Looked ahead just in time to see his tail light disappear over the hill a mile away! He went everywhere fast on that thing.")

 

So it's back down the road to wait to send mom home. (Thinking maybe we had so much silliness yesterday that mom was listening to story time and didn't want to miss any of the good stuff! She has always suffered from FOMO, hahaha) Love you Mom! Everyone is wearing down and out and trying to be ready to help Dad enter another new phase of this beautiful gift of life that we've been given.

 

Hey Superman/Puc! You be careful out there flying around in you fancy pajamas!

 

Thanks all!

 

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Edited August 2, 2017 by s.tyler58

[s.tyler58]

Mom's challenges are over. TYJ! She went peacefully this morning. Cuz called an hour later and my girl's got her new Shoes on. I think mom stopped by and spooked him on her way out! ;-)

 

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[Dragonslayer]

Mom's challenges are over. TYJ! She went peacefully this morning. Cuz called an hour later and my girl's got her new Shoes on. I think mom stopped by and spooked him on her way out! ;-)

 

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That's one way to expedite things. With all due respect. Prayers up for your families strength during this period of grief and celebration of life.

[Yammer Dan]

R.I.P. Prayers for Mom & family. Hope the wind blows your mind clear.

[snyper316]

Mom's challenges are over. TYJ! She went peacefully this morning. Cuz called an hour later and my girl's got her new Shoes on. I think mom stopped by and spooked him on her way out! ;-)

 

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I was always liken to my Gramps, I managed to take a bite out of pumpkin pie when we got the call that he was fading. Pumpkin Pie was his favorite... He never got on a motorbike of any sort that I am aware of but loved bicycling. He was interesting to be around, Man of few words but loved Ice Cream, Buttermilk, and riding bikes till people started getting mobile phone booths he gave up riding. I just pressed on and Kept riding.... I told you that it just wasn't time yet and things would work thereselves out just sometimes there is reasons for everything. I am betting maybe she did spook a few people on the way out. I remember saying that day this one is for you grandpa and when the phone rang I knew..... Sorry for you loss

 

and may she rest in peace. Sounds like you all got to have one last wonderful day, when I go I hope it can be that way too.

[s.tyler58]

Got 75 miles in tonight. Have to get a cruise assist. Bike st started to wobble at about 68 miles per hour. Like she was reaching takeoff speed or something. I had changed the dampener setting from 4 to 3. And have the new tire. It did not do this before these things. In the past I had stiffened up the rear and cured the problem. What pressure should I have in my fork and rear suspension?

I was putting along in a highway along our Platte River tonight, doing 45. The speed limit. When what to my surprise zoomed into my mirror? A kid on a little rocket. I moved over to let him pass. He got beside me and a rolled on the throttle just enuff to let him know I was wanting to play. We kind of goofed around a minute the he took of with a grin. He got about 30 feet ahead and then I stayed right there up to 90 then shut her down. He actually did a full turn head check when he didn't run away from me. We talked at the next stop. He was shocked when he saw my ride! I felt like Farm Truck from the 405!

 

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[s.tyler58]

Maybe I need about 109 lbs of ballest? Stacked about 5'2? Right about where a passenger would sit...

 

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[snyper316]

Sounds almost like a tire is out of balance.... or maybe you did just get the mostly round with a flat spot kind of tire. but the Forks get max of 14 I believe and rear shock I believe is around 45 it might be a bit more but thats what I got in mine..

[Yammer Dan]

Don't over air that front!! 14 is about limit. Did you balance your tire? I balance mine with the axel and two cinderblocks. Do you have a fork brace? Several things that could cause this. Air pressure in tire about 40?

[s.tyler58]

I've seen a ton of posts about using hand pump and whatnot. Just wasn't sure how much went where and for some reason the owners manual I had downloaded says it's no longer available for download. I would show you a video of my hand trying to demonstrate the wobble/floating/rhythmic, almost like if you had a clockface on the ground, like the bike is trying to float in a counter clockwise circle. Whole bike, not a handle bar rattling or vibration. Does video have to go on a YouTube link or something?

 

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[camos]

I've seen a ton of posts about using hand pump and whatnot. Just wasn't sure how much went where and for some reason the owners manual I had downloaded says it's no longer available for download. I would show you a video of my hand trying to demonstrate the wobble/floating/rhythmic, almost like if you had a clockface on the ground, like the bike is trying to float in a counter clockwise circle. Whole bike, not a handle bar rattling or vibration. Does video have to go on a YouTube link or something?

 

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An out of balance tire will bounce rather than float while going straight. In a corner it would likely feel a little more weird. Your description seems to be pretty close to what I was experiencing on my 90 VR when approaching or over 70 mph in a curve. In my case, tightening up the head bearing solved the problem. I should think a similar condition might be caused by loose swing arm bushings.

 

As far as air pressure goes, I don't think it is relevant to this issue. Too much pressure is hard on the seals and too little will allow the suspension to bottom out. It is not going to cause a shake or shimmy. Uneven levels of fork oil will induce a shimmy. Misaligned forks might also cause something similar. Plugged relief valves in the forks might also cause something similar.

[s.tyler58]

Yeah, I'm an idiot. Neither front nor rear had any pressure. I've set front at 11 and rear at 40. Haven't ridden it yet.

Smelled gas when I first got it back from mechanic, running pretty good. Have put over 400 miles on before the tire replaced. Now, after a little ride I have a carb leaking again. So looks like one stuck float and a sync. away from real riding. (Or moving on to the next issue that crops up. She sat two years on a fresh carb rebuild.

 

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[s.tyler58]

The carb leak stopped then reappeared 300 miles later...

 

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[s.tyler58]

Mechanic says bring it in Monday and they'll "work it in" next week. Meanwhile, there goes a beautiful weekends weather with highs in the mid 70's...

 

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[s.tyler58]

Maybe tank crud in the needle too

 

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