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25k to 27k is a lot of money for a two cylinder Yamaha. Kinda believe the 3rd gens will be short lived without water cooled V4 engine that made Venture unique. I wouldn't give up one of my Harley's for one but I may have if it had a 1700 V4 under the tank.

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The "new" V-twin will be plenty powerful for that bike. It' basically a Stratoliner engine and if I remember correctly, it has close to 100hp. But with 125 ft. lbs. of torque it should stretch your arms all you want. If you don't mind the air cooling, you'll probably like it.

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The "new" V-twin will be plenty powerful for that bike. It' basically a Stratoliner engine and if I remember correctly, it has close to 100hp. But with 125 ft. lbs. of torque it should stretch your arms all you want. If you don't mind the air cooling, you'll probably like it.

 

I think I read that hp would land in the 70s on this one, but torque should be adequate, maybe even fun at lower speeds. My guess is the underwhelming hp and redline might make it more work when highway speed passing or funtime acceleration is summoned. I guess we'll see when a current Venture owner gets a good test ride on one. Traffic was heavy as always in Rapid City and it was 102, this is not the bike I would have chosen for today.

 

I really hope this bike lives up to the hype. Thos needs to be the finest air cooled twin ever made.

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Google "Stratoliner specs" and see what you think. This is what Cycle World said about the Stratliner:

 

This technical package helps make the big Twin a very flexible engine. But its very large displacement doesn't hurt! In any case, Yamaha claims a peak output of 91 horsepower and 117 foot-pounds of torque at the rear wheel. That is Big Business, and, after some time in the saddle, the latter figure is pretty easy to believe. The Stratoliner not only grunts away strongly from a standstill, but also easily torques past traffic, rarely requiring a downshift with the slick five-speed transmission. Twin counterrotating balancers keep engine vibration in check.

 

 

The torque is the same as the goldwing. The GW has about 118 hp from what I read. I wouldn't buy an air cooled bagger but the power probably is adequate.

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Google "Stratoliner specs" and see what you think. This is what Cycle World said about the Stratliner:

 

This technical package helps make the big Twin a very flexible engine. But its very large displacement doesn't hurt! In any case, Yamaha claims a peak output of 91 horsepower and 117 foot-pounds of torque at the rear wheel. That is Big Business, and, after some time in the saddle, the latter figure is pretty easy to believe. The Stratoliner not only grunts away strongly from a standstill, but also easily torques past traffic, rarely requiring a downshift with the slick five-speed transmission. Twin counterrotating balancers keep engine vibration in check.

 

 

The torque is the same as the goldwing. The GW has about 118 hp from what I read. I wouldn't buy an air cooled bagger but the power probably is adequate.

 

One noteworthy thing regarding HP is that (for example) 118hp at 8500rpm is quite a bit more fun than 118hp at 4500rpm, by a decent margin. I will be shocked beyond words if this Venture can run with a GL1800, especially in the summer heat.

 

One thing I recall from my HD days is if you can get around triple digit HP and TQ in an air cooled twin it starts to get fun, and reeeally warm and pretty finicky. Gotta admit I would like to ride a strat with all this talk of massive tire erasing torque. There was one for sale locally for $2500 with some rash, cant deny thinking about buying and bobbing for pwr:wt. I have not owned or ridden a big twin since leaving HD years back and honestly I have not missed them one bit, not even for a moment. I have not given the Yamaha twin a fair shake yet to see how much better it is but maybe its time I try one out. 91/117 to the asphalt is are definitely livable numbers, especially with wt being a modifiable factor.

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One noteworthy thing regarding HP is that (for example) 118hp at 8500rpm is quite a bit more fun than 118hp at 4500rpm, by a decent margin. I will be shocked beyond words if this Venture can run with a GL1800, especially in the summer heat.

 

One thing I recall from my HD days is if you can get around triple digit HP and TQ in an air cooled twin it starts to get fun, and reeeally warm and pretty finicky. Gotta admit I would like to ride a strat with all this talk of massive tire erasing torque. There was one for sale locally for $2500 with some rash, cant deny thinking about buying and bobbing for pwr:wt. I have not owned or ridden a big twin since leaving HD years back and honestly I have not missed them one bit, not even for a moment. I have not given the Yamaha twin a fair shake yet to see how much better it is but maybe its time I try one out. 91/117 to the asphalt is are definitely livable numbers, especially with wt being a modifiable factor.

 

They're claiming 126 ftlbs with the the venture! that 13 over the new "Milwaukee 8" in the Harleys. I see that HD has reducted the fairing sand engine fins to cool the exhaust output, to level out the power band a bit. I'll report on that later as my little bro just traded the 2016 for a 2017 yesterday! (well he did have 40,000 miles on it already, two motors and a front end rebuild for i guess it was time)

 

I see the Yamaha claiming to run at 75 MPH at only 2700 RPM also, that takes a lot of torque. Notice the suspicion advertises a "Remote preload" for precise feedback what ever that means.

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I see the Yamaha claiming to run at 75 MPH at only 2700 RPM also, that takes a lot of torque.

 

I would think that this engine should be able to get better gas mileage than 30-something mpg we've heard about. I couldn't find the figure just now.

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I would think that this engine should be able to get better gas mileage than 30-something mpg we've heard about. I couldn't find the figure just now.

 

 

I couldn't find anything from mother Yamaha about MPG other than this little snippet

 

The Star Venture features a huge 6.6-gallon fuel tank for generous range, easily reaching 200 miles between fuel stops. Riders now have the freedom to journey further than ever.

 

if the bike only gets 200 miles between fill up that's 30.3 MPG however, "easily" could mean with 30, 40 or even 50 miles left to go which means MPG could be as high at 37.88 MPG or if it doesn't count say 3/4 gallon as a reserve feature maybe between 33 and 42 MPG have to wait for real world production bikes to be available for testing.

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Yamaha states 36 mpg on their FJR. I get 48 on my 2013 FJR, but I don't run it that hard. I get 44 on my RSV if I keep it under 65 mph with no wind riding solo'. I think their 34 mpg was figured with hiway speeds of 75mph. 75 mph at 2750 rpms. I'm thinking that the new bike will be in the 40 mpg range for most of us riding two up and loaded.

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