leroy Posted May 14, 2017 #126 Posted May 14, 2017 Don't think i heard them mention shaft drive either. If it is to be, IF, it is to be a new real long distance touring motorcycle, not just a remake of current lineup, I would expect 4 or more jugs, liquid cooled (not just the heads), and shaft drive. I know many of you will disagree. With today's emissions requirements fuel injection is required and I feel sure it will be liquid cooled, once again IF it happens.
RSTDdog Posted May 15, 2017 #127 Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) Besides something like Pathfinder would have to be an Indian rite? That would already be a registered trademark of Nissan dating back to when they entered the SUV market. Doesn't mean Yamaha couldn't use it on a motorcycle. We had Chevrolet Venture mini-vans and Yamaha Venture motorcycles at the same time period. Edited May 15, 2017 by RSTDdog
RSTDdog Posted May 15, 2017 #128 Posted May 15, 2017 So...whatever name Yamaha would use has to already be trademarked and available globally. For the "Venture" name see https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark?id=0647952&lang=eng&tab=reg - https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark?id=1678358&lang=eng&tab=reg - and https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark?id=1678358&lang=eng&tab=reg for the Venture Royal emblem design. You can do the same thing for any of the motor vehicle names - Vmax - https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark?id=0798995&lang=eng&tab=reg Journey ? NOTHING found. If you want to try the same thing... go to https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/home?lang=eng For criteria, click on the drop down for search field choose "Trademark" and for search criteria put in whatever name you think Yamaha is going to use. Click the button for "Add another search criteria" and for search field choose "Current owner name" and for search criteria put in "Yamaha" I did a search with just "Current owner name" being Yamaha and it came back with 655 documents. I didn't skim thru them all. They aren't calling it "Journey". Venture...it is. Interesting site from Canada. There are 9 active registered trademarks for the word Journey. None belong to Yamaha. One of the them Belongs to Fiat Chrysler (FCA) aka Dodge Journey. That would not preclude Yamaha from using it on a motorcycle IMO. The Yamaha Venture Motorcycle and Chevrolet Venture Mini Van existed concurrently for a period of time. We also know that manufacturers can call vehicles different names in different markets (Honda ST1100 USA- It was the Pan European -everywhere else in the world). Considering how well Yamaha has kept this under wraps, any trademark applications could be well hidden or through a company they own, for instance whatever Vendor supplies their emblems. They can change the trademark ownership once the bike is officially released. I still think it will be called Journey. Just too many references to it plus what appears to be a logo. I have been wrong before.
cowpuc Posted May 17, 2017 #129 Posted May 17, 2017 Sooo,,, ,,,, is anyone going to the unveiling:178:??? Tip, Tweeks and I went to the Indian unveiling at the Sturgis Rally in '13 (COME ON!! and THIS is a YAMAHA!!) = what a blast!! Did a quick snap of distance from here to Lake George in New York,,, shooooooot,,, 12 hours and we could be there,,,, got me thinking... Be a shame to get out there and have Mom Yam not produce a Touring scoot with a new V-Max motor stuffed in er BUT - would also be a shame to be sittin here staring at a 12 inch computer screen watching the Lady (Mom Yam) pull a rabbit out of a hat and be trying to see it - miss all the good stuff so to speak.... Besides,,,,,,, what if we got out there on Tweeksis and those folks out there fell in love with er and they offered us a new tour with the max motor on an even swap??? Orrrr,,,,,, even were offering test rides (they did that with the Injuns in '13)??? Got me thinkin here Roller..... Got me thinkin here......
bostonlawman2003 Posted May 17, 2017 #130 Posted May 17, 2017 Has anyone looked "closely" at the logo here? Look really closely at the "O" in Journey.....does anyone else pick up the V at the bottom of it?? V stands for Venture.......I have to think they are going to resurrect the name. At lease this is the logic I've used to convince myself of that fact. I will be upset if they don't. On another note, it's a 500 mile round trip from my house to Americade, I have put out some feelers to see if I can get someone to head out there with me, I would like to be there and see it with my own eyes, and maybe even get up close and personal with it.
baylensman Posted May 17, 2017 #131 Posted May 17, 2017 Has anyone looked "closely" at the logo here? http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109185 Look really closely at the "O" in Journey.....does anyone else pick up the V at the bottom of it?? V stands for Venture.......I have to think they are going to resurrect the name. At lease this is the logic I've used to convince myself of that fact. I will be upset if they don't. On another note, it's a 500 mile round trip from my house to Americade, I have put out some feelers to see if I can get someone to head out there with me, I would like to be there and see it with my own eyes, and maybe even get up close and personal with it. No thats actually the common map symbol for your destination on google maps. All the talk is about the destination and going further.
bostonlawman2003 Posted May 17, 2017 #132 Posted May 17, 2017 No thats actually the common map symbol for your destination on google maps. All the talk is about the destination and going further. Well jeez, you stuck a pin in my balloon and stole my candy bar at the same time.
baylensman Posted May 17, 2017 #133 Posted May 17, 2017 well jeez, you stuck a pin in my balloon and stole my candy bar at the same time. see below sorry. But stolen candy is the sweetest!!!!
snyper316 Posted May 17, 2017 #134 Posted May 17, 2017 see below sorry. But stolen candy is the sweetest!!!! http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109186 But that pointer is curved, [emoji23] Sent from my LG-K371 using Tapatalk
BigLenny Posted May 17, 2017 #135 Posted May 17, 2017 Ya know, as usual, Ole Puc brings up a good point. Somebody from our group needs to take one for the team and go to Lake George and get some relevant pictures of this machine. If I wasn't 21hrs and 8 states away, I'd sure as heck be there. Surely some of our members that are....let's say....within a few hundred miles from there would want to go put eyes on it for us. BL
Flyinfool Posted May 17, 2017 #136 Posted May 17, 2017 Has anyone looked "closely" at the logo here? http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109185 Look really closely at the "O" in Journey.....does anyone else pick up the V at the bottom of it?? V stands for Venture.......I have to think they are going to resurrect the name. At lease this is the logic I've used to convince myself of that fact. I will be upset if they don't. And I thought the "V" was because it will be a V engine.
10spd Posted May 17, 2017 #137 Posted May 17, 2017 I found this picture on a Facebook page. Could this be? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
XV1100SE Posted May 17, 2017 #138 Posted May 17, 2017 LOL - and everything you see on Facebook is true. NOT !
baylensman Posted May 17, 2017 #139 Posted May 17, 2017 And I thought the "V" was because it will be a V engine. No its because when yamaha made a deal with Victory to build there new cruiser. So we get maybe a release date and a 1 bike per dealer roll out before they have to redesign, so we are without a bike for another 4 years.
10spd Posted May 17, 2017 #140 Posted May 17, 2017 I think it looks good Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
XV1100SE Posted May 18, 2017 #141 Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) I think it looks goodhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/0f0ddbb067fb47e73e3db7f5d3e4da0e.jpg Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk The lower picture....is that the back end of the trunk? Certainly matches the "spy shots". Looking at the pictures of the bike....first picture of the bike...the exhaust is coming off the back side of the motor...what's the shiny part in front of the drivers leg? Chrome head? Air intake? Exhaust? I'm going with it being the V-Max motor in the new bike. Edited May 18, 2017 by XV1100SE
10spd Posted May 18, 2017 #142 Posted May 18, 2017 Kind of looks likes it Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
steamer Posted May 18, 2017 #143 Posted May 18, 2017 I keep telling you, your not seeing the real bike in these pictures. These test bikes have fake plastic covers on the fairing and other key parts to keep us from seeing the real deal. Same thing they do with test cars. these are prototypes, if you look at the picture of the silver trunk you will see that there is some subtle changes.
videoarizona Posted May 19, 2017 #144 Posted May 19, 2017 I found this picture on a Facebook page. Could this be?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/b225fd6d1becc926ffaefbb68727a2d6.jpg Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Is that our famous Nacho from Spain that did that composite picture?
videoarizona Posted May 19, 2017 #145 Posted May 19, 2017 http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/yamaha-to-unveil-new-touring-motorcycle-live PS don't forget to bookmark the link at the bottom. I'm to far away to go there but can watch live...
mabeline Posted May 19, 2017 #146 Posted May 19, 2017 I think it looks goodhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/0f0ddbb067fb47e73e3db7f5d3e4da0e.jpg Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk If you look at the back of the backrest in the third pic, it looks like the old venture symbol from 1st Gen?!
BigLenny Posted May 19, 2017 #147 Posted May 19, 2017 I keep telling you, your not seeing the real bike in these pictures. These test bikes have fake plastic covers on the fairing and other key parts to keep us from seeing the real deal. Same thing they do with test cars. these are prototypes, if you look at the picture of the silver trunk you will see that there is some subtle changes. Steamer, I gotta tell ya; the only subtle changes I'm seeing is the silver paint. Oh, and the antenna. What subtle changes in that trunk are you talking about? Big Lenny
cowpuc Posted May 20, 2017 #148 Posted May 20, 2017 If you look at the back of the backrest in the third pic, it looks like the old venture symbol from 1st Gen?! GOOD EYE BROTHER:thumbsup:!! Folks should take a really really close look at what Mabe is talking about = grab a magnifying glass - that is DEFINITELY the good ole Venture symbol most of us ADORE = YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWW I think its gonna happen!! Just had another procedure done today,, didnt know how I would be feeling afterwards but doing ok.. REALLY considering hopping over to Lake George NY for the unveiling on the 5th (still dependant on health) - have done several unveils in the past (most recent Daytona for Indian engine and Sturgis for the bike in '13) and ALWAYS fun to participate. Looks like a straight shot across Mi, Canada - thru Niagra falls and over to Lake George.. Ride appears to be about 12 hours. 16 hour days in the saddle use to be average for us BUT = still having issues with tiredness hitting pretty hard at indiscriminate times - thinking leaving Sunday - drop tent along the route about half way (6 hour ride = lunch break ride for most of you lop eared varmints) - easily make Lake George by 7 pm Monday the 5th.. This could be history in the making - gotta go if at all possible!!
steamer Posted May 20, 2017 #149 Posted May 20, 2017 [/b] Steamer, I gotta tell ya; the only subtle changes I'm seeing is the silver paint. Oh, and the antenna. What subtle changes in that trunk are you talking about? Big Lenny The back of the black trunk and tail light is v shaped, it come to a point in the middle of the trunk. the silver trunk is straight across the back. the tail light is also straight. the silver trunk has less lines and angles.
BigLenny Posted May 20, 2017 #150 Posted May 20, 2017 Lookin again at those pics; those gotta be v-twins, right? With that single exhaust coming out of the rear jug. You'd think if it was a V-4, there'd be 2 exhaust, one coming outta each jug.
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