YamahaLarry Posted October 18, 2016 #1 Posted October 18, 2016 Hello guys, Freebird, Cowpuc and gang. I haven't posted in while. Mainly cause the old '99 RSV has been running like a top this year. Oil changes and a new rear tire has been the only things needed since the new paint job in Aug 2015. She has led the way for 6 or so childhood cancer bike rides this year, 1 adult cancer ride, an auto-crash victim's ride, a child's ride for NKH and led a funeral procession for a 16 year old boy that died from osteo sarcoma. She's done well. So well that I haven't had to come here and dip into the vast RSV knowledge that resides here. However, the rear shock has finally bit the dust I am afraid. It has been going soft on me for over a year now. Oddly, I have never seen any oil on my garage floor or driveway during that time. But, has gotten softer and softer and now to the point that it is way too bouncy and getting a little dangerous on some of these Alabama curves (we have the crappiest roads in the US of A). Trying to figure out my smartest move. I do love the ability to adjust the ride, but reading all the posts and experiences others have had with the OEM shock does make me a little weary. Bikes.net wants close to $700 for the '99 flavor, but the 2010 is only $560 or so. In the diagrams, the only visual difference I can see is some sort of extra hose on the newer ones, maybe a vent or something. So my question on this one is this: Can I put the 2010 version on my 1999 model? I would think yes, but what do I do with that hose or whatever it is? Now, I see that I can save $$$ by going with the Hagon and is it rebuildable like the Works shock? I have read where some say that the Hagon is not as 'soft' of a ride as he OEM. Most of my riding is interstate, but I do manage/organize/escort quite a few bike rides and in the escort part, I have to run ahead of the rides often to set up blocks at intersections. This does make me push the bike thru some pretty rough roads and curves at higher speeds and just curious if the Hagon would not be a better application for this if I have it set up a little firmer than normal. Any info that you RSV wizards can lend would be most appreciated.
eusa1 Posted October 18, 2016 #2 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) the part number you see for the 99 is no longer available and has been superseded by the number you found for the 2010 and yes the only difference is a vent hose that they added in September of 2004 there is only one yamaha shock for 1999-2013 venture and 2005-2009 tour deluxe look at www.boats.net for a great price http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-4XY-22210-10-00.html Edited October 18, 2016 by eusa1
Freebird Posted October 18, 2016 #3 Posted October 18, 2016 Agree with MIke. The later model will work perfectly. Not sure it's actually any better though. The Hagon is rebuildable but I've never used it or the Works. Both get great reviews. I understand what you mean about it being non-adjustable but that's not a big deal to me. I usually don't ever change mine anyway. If the day comes that I need a new shock on my '05, I will go with one of the aftermarket models.
YamahaLarry Posted October 19, 2016 Author #4 Posted October 19, 2016 the part number you see for the 99 is no longer available and has been superseded by the number you found for the 2010 and yes the only difference is a vent hose that they added in September of 2004 there is only one yamaha shock for 1999-2013 venture and 2005-2009 tour deluxe look at www.boats.net for a great price http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-4XY-22210-10-00.html Thanks. Not sure what it may vent, but I think I will go with this. I seldom ride 2 up, but when I do, I like the ability to easily adjust.
eusa1 Posted October 19, 2016 #5 Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks. Not sure what it may vent, but I think I will go with this. I seldom ride 2 up, but when I do, I like the ability to easily adjust. I agree for the same reasons. the vent hose just needs to run up along side the battery box and it vents the rubber bellows protecting the shock seal from dust and dirt ' the dirt is what takes the chrome off the shock shaft allowing it to rust and takes out the oil seal.
djh3 Posted October 20, 2016 #6 Posted October 20, 2016 The Hagon is adjustable. Just not air adjustable. It has compression adjustment. I mount them so the allen screw that adjusts that is accessible from the ri side. That way when on side stand you can get at it a little easier. Yea not as easy as pumping air in it, but.......
YamahaLarry Posted October 20, 2016 Author #7 Posted October 20, 2016 The Hagon is adjustable. Just not air adjustable. It has compression adjustment. I mount them so the allen screw that adjusts that is accessible from the ri side. That way when on side stand you can get at it a little easier. Yea not as easy as pumping air in it, but....... I have really considered the Hagon. Haven't ordered the other one yet. But doesn't the set screw just sorta throttle the flow of the hydraulic fluid? I thought the adjust the sprint tension (compression) it was a much tougher ordeal? I still haven't ruled out Hagon. When it comes to buying something like this, I guess I spend too much time pondering. But whatever I choose, I guess I need to do it quickly. I have another cancer ride to host in about 10 days.
djh3 Posted October 21, 2016 #8 Posted October 21, 2016 the spring tension is a bit tricky to adjust. I think they call it "preload" For the most part you really dont need to adjust it much I dont think. The screw does limit the hydraulic fluid flow for compression.
Ace Posted October 21, 2016 #9 Posted October 21, 2016 I have a Hagon on my millennium RSV. To change preload, you have to remove the shock from the bike to turn the adjuster nut on the top which is a major pain in the rear. I do change preload when I am going to tour fully packed and pulling a trailer. Its something you can't do on the side of the road. If you asked me if I'd buy another Hagon for an RSV my answer would be no.
YamahaLarry Posted October 24, 2016 Author #10 Posted October 24, 2016 I have a Hagon on my millennium RSV. To change preload, you have to remove the shock from the bike to turn the adjuster nut on the top which is a major pain in the rear. I do change preload when I am going to tour fully packed and pulling a trailer. Its something you can't do on the side of the road. If you asked me if I'd buy another Hagon for an RSV my answer would be no. I did decide to order the OEM shock from Bikes.net and it is scheduled for delivery today. I hope to get time to install it one night this week. While I fully believe the Hagon is a higher quality and love the idea of the rebuild, I decided to pay just a few $$$ more and go with the adjustable air shock due to my varying extremes in riding. Thanks for all the input guys. The information obtained on this site is invaluable.
eusa1 Posted October 24, 2016 #11 Posted October 24, 2016 I did decide to order the OEM shock from Bikes.net and it is scheduled for delivery today. I hope to get time to install it one night this week. While I fully believe the Hagon is a higher quality and love the idea of the rebuild, I decided to pay just a few $$$ more and go with the adjustable air shock due to my varying extremes in riding. Thanks for all the input guys. The information obtained on this site is invaluable. were you able to locate any better price than the boats.net site?
YamahaLarry Posted October 26, 2016 Author #12 Posted October 26, 2016 were you able to locate any better price than the boats.net site? No. I found 1 other site that was the same price but went with Boats.net. They had the 2 items I needed in the Georgia warehouse, shipped same day, last Friday and I got the shipment in on Monday. Haven't had time yet to put the new shock on. I also had to order a bracket for my left side wind deflector. Had the right side break off on me last year and it cost over $200 to replaced everything due to a $7 bracket breaking. Left side is beginning to crack at the 90 degree bend, so gonna replace it before it costs me $200.
eusa1 Posted October 26, 2016 #13 Posted October 26, 2016 next time ya need a part, i have several used royal star items.
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