Screaming Eagle Race Tuner, the way it happened to me..

[cowpuc]

Had another biopsy scheduled for a little case of Prostate Cancer recently. The urologist didnt like the looks of some pre-op tests and I ended up way laid at the hospital during those tests with words like "I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole until he is cleared by a Cardiologist" being openly discussed. My daughter, who is a Dr. that inherited her mothers stubborness, got involved and agreed with Tippy and others that my extreme tiredness and dementia like symptoms that only seemed to relent with high doses of Prednisone, had increased over the course of time had gotten way out of hand and the idea of this all being connected surfaced.

My 2nd stress test came back with NO noticable blockages but a notably increasing electrical problem - definitely had some high resistance in there somewhere. No matter how hard I pushed it I could not get my R's up over 85 ticks a minute and a resting low of 35.. Having been thru this before, albeit, with not quite as bad of results,, my daughter mentioned sending me off to a tuner specialist known as an Electrophysiologist.. This made my lop eared ears perk up and she asked why. I told her that I had heard that term before when a really good friend of mine, another lop eared varmint known as @Flyinfool , had mentioned it during a phone conversation we had had a few months ago..

Another gearhead, my current GP, agreed with my daughters reasoning that my current tuner was running my system way to lean and that depriving my operating system of 1/2 its needed nutrients and O2 might just be causing some of the issues I have been suffering with over the last couple years.

Having been down this same road several times since I turned 60 and showing typical signs of a high mileage sticker covered machine - still good lookin but kinda wobbly in the corners and moaning a lot ,, I was somewhat when the Cardio gearhead looked at me and said he was surprised I did not have even worse symptons like a major electrical short. He mentioned the only difference between "fainting" and a "heart attack" being the length of time it takes for a person to wake up from an "episode":confused24:, the latter being the worst cause it can be fatal..

After a short briefing on how much easier it is to install a Screaming Eagle Race Tuner (Pace Maker) on a human body than on,, say a Harley Ultra (IMHO) it was prep time and off to the "shop". These new age wrenches are amazing, I remember thinking about the quoted install time, 1 hour and 30 minutes and comparing that to the most recent install of the same tuner on my buddys Ultra taking closer to 5 hours..

For all my brothers and sisters of the wrench - I will include some interesting detail here of the install procedure. You non-gear heads can skip this paragraph if your bored.. Power wash your rig, get rid of all dirt and bugs collected in the area. Make a 2 inch cut right below steering stem (collar bone in the shop manual), look at the leads for the Tuner - note the cork screw ends? those go in first. Make a 1/4 inch cut in the hydraulic tube right under the steer stem, thread the leads into the hydraulic tube. Some tuners only have 1 lead but the Screaming Eagle has two - this gives you total control of both top and bottom end according to the guy who installed mine (no idea if he was referring to torque/hp curve:biker:).. Push the leads in until they stop inside the pump, turn the leads so the self tapping cork screw ends thread into the surfaces they are resting against inside of the pump. Stitch around the leads protruding from the line - you cant use tie wraps cause they will pinch off the hydraulic lines = I asked about this:no-no-no:.. Connect the Tablespoon shaped Tuner to the leads. Carve out a small area for the tuner to rest in, make a loop in the tuner leads so if you do any off roading you have plently of flex. Program your tuner for a resting rate somewhere between 60 and 100 but keep in mind that the higher you set your resting rate - the sooner the battery in your tuner will run out and the sooner you will have to replace it:Cartoon_397:. Please note - I chose the MRI compatible unit cause I still have other future testing for cancer coming up PLUS I still plan on riding with you guys. If you ever find yourself needing a Tuner - you can save a few bucks if you dont need this option BUT - because you are reading this on a motorcycle club webpage, you are probably a risk taker and, that being said, you might want to consider the fact that MRI's and other magnetic imaging diagnostic things are pretty standard in this day and age - even for setting broken toes from falling over at a corner - and they will wreak havoc on your programming - just sayin.. MRI compatible is the way to go for us life in the fast lane bikers = IMHO..

@kevin-vic-b.c. = AWESOME on the Knackers Yard CD's = :guitarist 2::guitarist 2: OUTSTANDING AND THANK YOU MY FRIEND!! Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner but things have been a little crazy around here!! Hope to get some listening time in now that I am home = VERY SOON will give more feedback Kev!! A HUGE THANKS TO YOUR SON AND OTHER KNACKERS YARD MEMBERS TOO!!

Also recieved a get well package from you International Riders = WOW !!!! Thank you @slowrollwv for sending it and to all those who signed it - you folks are amazing!! Will wear it with pride!! Tweeksis will wear hers too and says THANK YOU too!!

 

Thanks to ALL my friends here too for thinking about or praying for us.. HOT DOGS FOR EVERYONE!!

 

Your ol buddy

Puc:biker:

[Du-Rron]

Puc... this was an interesting read and you explained it better than any doctor could. Heal fast buddy!

[Marcarl]

Hopefully this will get you back up and running on all four. It's no picnic when things are missing and you have to look for a different type scooter.

You could have asked for a remote charger or maybe they could have hung a connector on the outside to charge overnight, I do that with my cell phone. Aren't these guys up to date?

Heal fast my friend and keep us updated.

[Motiv]

Sending prayers and good vibes your way Pucster.

I sure hope the doc didn't give you a remote programer, you know how us gearheads love to tinker

 

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[cecdoo]

Glad to hear they are getting you "dialed in" and hitting on all 4. Hopefully the new air/fuel mixture gets you feeling alot better!!!

 

Craig

[eagleeye]

Oh man Puc,

I'm glad that your getting the care that you need, and of course only you could write it up like this.

Heal up and I'll see you on down the road.

[Flyinfool]

Puc, Puc, Puc, Puc, Puc.

 

What are we gonna do with you.

I thought I gave you explicit instructions to get better, so you, Tippy and Sis can get back to zippin all over this country and then write ride reports all winter while the flys.

 

At least with my electrical issues the broken wires could be soldered back together and add a bit of shrink wrap to protect the splices. Getting a tuner installed was the next option if the splices did not work. But my issue had me running a bit on the rich side. I was idling at 85 to 115 and when stressed shot over redline to over 200, it was not a smooth idle either, constantly bouncing around in that range. It was the wires to my governor and rev limiter that were broken so the electronics could not maintain a proper RPM. Now that the gov is reconnected, my idle speed is back where it should be at 45 to 48 with a redline of 190. Been running nice and smooth on all 4 since the electrical work was done June of '15. With deer season approaching I am back into form doing the hill climbing and looking for my first big enduro soon. I did do a 5K mud run/walk mini enduro this last summer to benefit breast and testicular cancer.

 

It sure sounds like this new tuner should help out your TCI to keep things running nice and smooth. Hoping the best for you to get all of these issued ironed out real quick and back to screaming down the road with your hair on fire. Well maybe you already did to many runs with your hair on fire................

[snyper316]

That is a pretty ingenious way to put things.

 

Twist the handle and move!!!

[mirider]

Puc - Sue and I sending our prayers and best wishes your way for continuing progress in your quest to settle these health issues. Have missed your smiling face and entertaining postings for far too long.

[Dragonslayer]

Prayers are with you and I hope this means your new turbo will give you the boost you need. Good luck on your exhaust volumetric efficiency. But I do have few questions.

 

Does this mean microwave popcorn is out? What about TV remotes and garage door openers. How about radio controlled cars, drones, planes and snow storm making machines.

[frankd]

Puc,

 

A very understandable description!!!!! I hope there's no firmware glitches in the programmer because we'd like to hear how good you're doing at some outing soon.

 

 

Our prayers are with you and heal quickly!!

 

Frank & Barb D.

[Guest divey]

It's been pretty tame on the forum this past while Dad. Glad to see you're back on the computer keeping us all informed and enlightened. Hope your new maintenance package has you back in the saddle real quick. Doug

[Freebird]

Glad to hear that they found a possible solution to your problem my friend. I hope that you start feeling better now. It does bother me a bit that you skipped Maintenance Day this year, there is not doubt that we could have taken care of all of that right here and for a lot less money. Try to make it next year and maybe we can tinker with the programming a bit and improve upon what they have done.

[stanG]

Glad to see that you are getting the much needed "periodic maintenance". As a 1st gen rider, I know that sometimes there is the need to turn to "aftermarket" parts to improve performance when "stock" parts are no longer available. Heal well my friend!

 

 

"Have fun out there"

 

stanG

[Yammer Dan]

Humm I got one of Gary's TCIs on the shelf in the garage.....

[TDunc]

Puc,

Prayers will continue for all my friend.

 

Hey those Electrophysiologist dudes/dudettes are great people. Coming up on two years since my ablation and I would do it again versus the alternative. My Electrophysiologist and I are on a first name basis..... We have the same first name.

[luvmy40]

Puc,

Best wishes and a speedy recovery to you.

[Dale124]

Wow, Scott, that was quite the story. Very descriptive! I sure hope you will be back to your old self sooner that later. It sounds like you are in good hands out there, and having your daughter as a consultant must be comforting.

Get well, my friend.

Dale.

[jimmy99]

Best description of a "tuner" installation, ever.

 

 

Being a gearhead myself, I'm pretty sure I could install one now.

[Venturous Randy]

Hey, I go away for a week camping and look what happened. Well, it sounds like you are making some progress in getting in a better state of tune and that has got to help.

Keeping you in our thoughts and prayers.

Randy

[videoarizona]

What more can be said? Really glad to hear you went in for a tune up and came out with some new, after market parts!!

 

Take it easy, my friend, and heal up.

Prayers Up!

david

[djh3]

Hope your doin OK. So is it tunable via Bluetooth?

[cowpuc]

Puc... this was an interesting read and you explained it better than any doctor could. Heal fast buddy!

Warms my heart just hearing that someone, somewhere FINALLY acknowledges being able to follow one of my explanations Duey!!

 

Hopefully this will get you back up and running on all four. It's no picnic when things are missing and you have to look for a different type scooter.

You could have asked for a remote charger or maybe they could have hung a connector on the outside to charge overnight, I do that with my cell phone. Aren't these guys up to date?

Heal fast my friend and keep us updated.

 

Sending prayers and good vibes your way Pucster.

I sure hope the doc didn't give you a remote programer, you know how us gearheads love to tinker

 

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Got a gadget to access my Tuner thru the telephone so those Cardio people can do some tuning if Tip, Sis and I get caught off roading and need to do some fine tuning BUT,,, NO PROGRAMMER:confused24:... RATSSSSSSSSSSS!! Gonna have to see if I can find an actual programmer on E-Bay I guess:guitarist 2:

 

Puc, Puc, Puc, Puc, Puc.

 

What are we gonna do with you.

I thought I gave you explicit instructions to get better, so you, Tippy and Sis can get back to zippin all over this country and then write ride reports all winter while the flys.

 

At least with my electrical issues the broken wires could be soldered back together and add a bit of shrink wrap to protect the splices. Getting a tuner installed was the next option if the splices did not work. But my issue had me running a bit on the rich side. I was idling at 85 to 115 and when stressed shot over redline to over 200, it was not a smooth idle either, constantly bouncing around in that range. It was the wires to my governor and rev limiter that were broken so the electronics could not maintain a proper RPM. Now that the gov is reconnected, my idle speed is back where it should be at 45 to 48 with a redline of 190. Been running nice and smooth on all 4 since the electrical work was done June of '15. With deer season approaching I am back into form doing the hill climbing and looking for my first big enduro soon. I did do a 5K mud run/walk mini enduro this last summer to benefit breast and testicular cancer.

 

It sure sounds like this new tuner should help out your TCI to keep things running nice and smooth. Hoping the best for you to get all of these issued ironed out real quick and back to screaming down the road with your hair on fire. Well maybe you already did to many runs with your hair on fire................

 

Ahhh yes,, now I remember brother!! I think those Tuner geeks call your condition "Tachy" and mine "Brady".. Sort of like yours was tach'n out - gotta agree with ya brother - definitely needing a peek at the rev limiter parameters.

 

Puc - Sue and I sending our prayers and best wishes your way for continuing progress in your quest to settle these health issues. Have missed your smiling face and entertaining postings for far too long.

That was one strange summer brother - hopefully next summer we can get together for LOTS MORE 's and 's and and :essen_024:with NO heart rate inducing Prednisone pills necessary!!

 

Prayers are with you and I hope this means your new turbo will give you the boost you need. Good luck on your exhaust volumetric efficiency. But I do have few questions.

 

Does this mean microwave popcorn is out? What about TV remotes and garage door openers. How about radio controlled cars, drones, planes and snow storm making machines.

And even electric dog fences Slayer... According to the Tuner Manual I am suppose to allow this fancy outfit to be around Dog Fences - its says to "cross them as quickly as possible".. Thankfully I'm not "Tuner Dependent" - thinking that means they left my ignition points in place so if something happens to my Tuner the pump dont stop completely but defaults to running on 3 again..

 

Glad to hear that they found a possible solution to your problem my friend. I hope that you start feeling better now. It does bother me a bit that you skipped Maintenance Day this year, there is not doubt that we could have taken care of all of that right here and for a lot less money. Try to make it next year and maybe we can tinker with the programming a bit and improve upon what they have done.

Hearing that brother!! When you guys was partying in Oberlin I was really draggin butt.. Following Sunday (June 19) I was back in the hospital - JUST CRAZY!! Chest pressure/pain - fatique - lathargic.. E-Room doc ordered another Stress test - found nothing like I told Tip they wouldnt:detective:.. Tip made me go in - personally I had pretty much given up on Doctors - been chasing this stuff for wayyyy to long.. Crazy but this Tuner probably would not have been installed last week had it not been for Tips stubborness during that episode.. That stress test was a big part of the "link" to finding the high resistance in my old wiring.. for Don's MD 2017 for BOTH OF US!!

 

Glad to see that you are getting the much needed "periodic maintenance". As a 1st gen rider, I know that sometimes there is the need to turn to "aftermarket" parts to improve performance when "stock" parts are no longer available. Heal well my friend!

 

 

"Have fun out there"

 

stanG

 

You NAILED it Stang!! We 1st Gen "brothers and sisters of the wrench" know all to well that other ol cliche' should have read = "Takin a lick 'n and keep em tick n'"

 

Humm I got one of Gary's TCIs on the shelf in the garage.....

Havent gotten the tab on this one yet Bro but got a hunch that even at salvage yard price (1/2 of new?) - you could be sitting on a pretty good down pay on a new scoot... May wanna scrub the leads and connectors on yours, vacuum pack it up and carry it in your maintenance department (right bag).. We ever get to another Rally together and someone complains about issues like I been having for the last couple years - I can do the install cause I know where to cut and how to place the test lead connectors (see pic) and you got the parts.. If its an "MD" Rally I will donate my time and skills and REALLY save the lop eared VR varmint some cash

 

What more can be said? Really glad to hear you went in for a tune up and came out with some new, after market parts!!

 

Take it easy, my friend, and heal up.

Prayers Up!

david

 

Nothin really brother except for another THANK YOU to ALL for the thoughts and Prayers Up thru this whole crazy thing.. Feeling a little bit better every day it seems.. Not like a handfull of Prednisone - a lot more subtle but definitely better.. Less than a week out of Surgery and walked 1 mile today and rode the bicycle another 4. Seem to be awake a LOT more - longer hours between naps (was sleeping 16 to 18 hours a day). Noticing my abililty to handle cooler temps is improving (thankfully - I spent last winter under 6 inches of blankets with our house thermostat set at 74 and still FROZE,,, PLUS - I KNOW FOOL IS PLAYING WITH THE MACHINE CAUSE I SAW THOSE CLOUDS HANGIN OVER THE LAKE TODAY JEFF ) and actually developed "sweat" while riding bike today!!

 

Puc

 

PS - told Tip if this thing works and get my groove back I am saving up for another "Crud"... She smiled and said "now THERE'S the sweetheart I remember".. You guys should be proud of me = in accordance with "The Code" the "1700cc" part of that declaration somehow eluded that statement

Edited October 3, 2016 by cowpuc

[mirider]

Ode to @cowpuc

 

There once was a varmit named Puc

Who with his health had no luck

Seems he was always tired

And not from the kids he had sired

The doc said you need a jump

So he gave him a portable pump

Now puc can ride his scoot

Like he doesn't give a hoot

And look like a hippy

For his better half Tippy

Now he can jump thru hoops

To entertain the VR troops

And hop like a frog

To eat a hot dog

So we welcome him back

And pray he stays sharp as a tack.

 

 

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Edited October 3, 2016 by mirider

[oldgoat]

Had another biopsy scheduled for a little case of Prostate Cancer recently. The urologist didnt like the looks of some pre-op tests and I ended up way laid at the hospital during those tests with words like "I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole until he is cleared by a Cardiologist" being openly discussed. My daughter, who is a Dr. that inherited her mothers stubborness, got involved and agreed with Tippy and others that my extreme tiredness and dementia like symptoms that only seemed to relent with high doses of Prednisone, had increased over the course of time had gotten way out of hand and the idea of this all being connected surfaced.

My 2nd stress test came back with NO noticable blockages but a notably increasing electrical problem - definitely had some high resistance in there somewhere. No matter how hard I pushed it I could not get my R's up over 85 ticks a minute and a resting low of 35.. Having been thru this before, albeit, with not quite as bad of results,, my daughter mentioned sending me off to a tuner specialist known as an Electrophysiologist.. This made my lop eared ears perk up and she asked why. I told her that I had heard that term before when a really good friend of mine, another lop eared varmint known as @Flyinfool , had mentioned it during a phone conversation we had had a few months ago..

Another gearhead, my current GP, agreed with my daughters reasoning that my current tuner was running my system way to lean and that depriving my operating system of 1/2 its needed nutrients and O2 might just be causing some of the issues I have been suffering with over the last couple years.

Having been down this same road several times since I turned 60 and showing typical signs of a high mileage sticker covered machine - still good lookin but kinda wobbly in the corners and moaning a lot ,, I was somewhat when the Cardio gearhead looked at me and said he was surprised I did not have even worse symptons like a major electrical short. He mentioned the only difference between "fainting" and a "heart attack" being the length of time it takes for a person to wake up from an "episode":confused24:, the latter being the worst cause it can be fatal..

After a short briefing on how much easier it is to install a Screaming Eagle Race Tuner (Pace Maker) on a human body than on,, say a Harley Ultra (IMHO) it was prep time and off to the "shop". These new age wrenches are amazing, I remember thinking about the quoted install time, 1 hour and 30 minutes and comparing that to the most recent install of the same tuner on my buddys Ultra taking closer to 5 hours..

For all my brothers and sisters of the wrench - I will include some interesting detail here of the install procedure. You non-gear heads can skip this paragraph if your bored.. Power wash your rig, get rid of all dirt and bugs collected in the area. Make a 2 inch cut right below steering stem (collar bone in the shop manual), look at the leads for the Tuner - note the cork screw ends? those go in first. Make a 1/4 inch cut in the hydraulic tube right under the steer stem, thread the leads into the hydraulic tube. Some tuners only have 1 lead but the Screaming Eagle has two - this gives you total control of both top and bottom end according to the guy who installed mine (no idea if he was referring to torque/hp curve:biker:).. Push the leads in until they stop inside the pump, turn the leads so the self tapping cork screw ends thread into the surfaces they are resting against inside of the pump. Stitch around the leads protruding from the line - you cant use tie wraps cause they will pinch off the hydraulic lines = I asked about this:no-no-no:.. Connect the Tablespoon shaped Tuner to the leads. Carve out a small area for the tuner to rest in, make a loop in the tuner leads so if you do any off roading you have plently of flex. Program your tuner for a resting rate somewhere between 60 and 100 but keep in mind that the higher you set your resting rate - the sooner the battery in your tuner will run out and the sooner you will have to replace it:Cartoon_397:. Please note - I chose the MRI compatible unit cause I still have other future testing for cancer coming up PLUS I still plan on riding with you guys. If you ever find yourself needing a Tuner - you can save a few bucks if you dont need this option BUT - because you are reading this on a motorcycle club webpage, you are probably a risk taker and, that being said, you might want to consider the fact that MRI's and other magnetic imaging diagnostic things are pretty standard in this day and age - even for setting broken toes from falling over at a corner - and they will wreak havoc on your programming - just sayin.. MRI compatible is the way to go for us life in the fast lane bikers = IMHO..

@kevin-vic-b.c. = AWESOME on the Knackers Yard CD's = :guitarist 2::guitarist 2: OUTSTANDING AND THANK YOU MY FRIEND!! Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner but things have been a little crazy around here!! Hope to get some listening time in now that I am home = VERY SOON will give more feedback Kev!! A HUGE THANKS TO YOUR SON AND OTHER KNACKERS YARD MEMBERS TOO!!

Also recieved a get well package from you International Riders = WOW !!!! Thank you @slowrollwv for sending it and to all those who signed it - you folks are amazing!! Will wear it with pride!! Tweeksis will wear hers too and says THANK YOU too!!

 

Thanks to ALL my friends here too for thinking about or praying for us.. HOT DOGS FOR EVERYONE!!

 

Your ol buddy

Puc:biker:

I think you can hook up a battery tender to that rig? not sure but you might want to check it out.