dna9656 Posted August 4, 2016 #1 Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) Well I got the COPs on and she started right up like she's 'sposed to! HOORAY!!! She's got that funny little whistle at idle but she purrs just right! Next is the TCI (Thanks Yamagrl), some odds and ends, I guess I should check the drive shaft/drive gear for lube huh? She's got new tires (the nubs are still on them) so I know I shouldn't assume the last mechanic that was in there did what should be done...like checking the bearings and the gear for lube.... Thanks to all for encouragement and help! Doug Edited August 4, 2016 by dna9656
Flyinfool Posted August 4, 2016 #3 Posted August 4, 2016 Cool. I been watching this close. COPs is the route that I will go IF/when one of my coils die.
VanRiver Posted August 4, 2016 #4 Posted August 4, 2016 Hey @dna9656 great to hear the COP's worked right out of the box for ya! I've been thinking of doing the same to my Bike AZZI when I do the engine swap. Do you mind sharing some of your wisdom on the conversion? I have a couple of questions: 1. What year and model bike did you get your COP's from? 2. Are you using the stock TCI or do you have the Dynapro aftermarket one? 3. Any other details or gotcha's I need to worry about?
bongobobny Posted August 4, 2016 #5 Posted August 4, 2016 There was a guy on the VMax forums selling complete COP kits. Also there is someone making special hold down brackets for the COP's that mount under the valve cover bolts there...
dna9656 Posted August 5, 2016 Author #6 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) VanRiver said: Hey @dna9656 great to hear the COP's worked right out of the box for ya! I've been thinking of doing the same to my Bike AZZI when I do the engine swap. Do you mind sharing some of your wisdom on the conversion? I have a couple of questions: 1. What year and model bike did you get your COP's from? 2006-2007 Honda CBR1000RR - Ignition Coils/Spark Plug (COPs) Caps/Harness. You'll also need 06 07 Honda CBR1000RR Ignition Spark Plug Coil Stick Wiring Harness. 2. Are you using the stock TCI or do you have the Dynapro aftermarket one? Works with Ignitec (I have one) and the TCI. 3. Any other details or gotcha's I need to worry about? I used the OEM plugs on my wires that go from the TCI through the bike's wire harness to the OEM coils. I disconnected the coils, cut the plugs from them and using these same OEM plugs I made a jumper to go from the the wire harness plug(s) that went TO the coils to now GO TO the COPs, they fire just fine. The COPs are Denso units, (yes the P/N is on them). You'll need the OEM harness plugs from the Honda bike (see above); one end of the jumper has the Honda wire harness plug on it and the other has the Yamaha wire harness plug on it. You plug the Yamaha end into the harness plugs that formerly plugged into the coils, then you'll use the Honda end to plug into the COPs. Edited August 6, 2016 by dna9656
dna9656 Posted August 5, 2016 Author #7 Posted August 5, 2016 bongobobny said: There was a guy on the VMax forums selling complete COP kits. Also there is someone making special hold down brackets for the COP's that mount under the valve cover bolts there... I needed no hold downs; I pushed the COP into the plastic/rubber cover over the head and it stays there just fine...maybe this person has something though...
dna9656 Posted August 5, 2016 Author #8 Posted August 5, 2016 Flyinfool said: Cool. I been watching this close. COPs is the route that I will go IF/when one of my coils die. Well if you should need a OEM coil PM me.
dna9656 Posted August 5, 2016 Author #9 Posted August 5, 2016 FYI I had this set up on the old # 1 Ignitec TCI and the COPs; they worked just fine.
dna9656 Posted August 5, 2016 Author #10 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) OK; she starts fine with the TCI running things. THEN I Connected the Ignitec, I hooked up the vacuum with the restricter to the MAP sensor. Plug the MAP sensor into the Ignitec, The BIG and little plugs from the TCI to the Ignitec\BIG and little plugs. Hit the start button........yeah I turned the ignition key on.... Now I got what ya call a NO START CONDITION; but it does crank... DIS connected all that stuff, RE connected the TCI and she starts fine. Because I removed the air box to get to the TCI I now have to re-connect the air cleaner box BIG hose to the twinkie. I fought that fight for 1.5 hours; finally getting that connected, now I have the hose that goes from the "T" above the twinkie to the corner of the air box line to connect. Any ideas where I went wrong with the TCI? I made no mods to any plug. Edited August 6, 2016 by dna9656
Flyinfool Posted August 5, 2016 #11 Posted August 5, 2016 When you say a NO START CONDITION, is it cranking but will not fire, or does it do nothing at all?
dna9656 Posted August 6, 2016 Author #12 Posted August 6, 2016 Flyinfool said: When you say a NO START CONDITION, is it cranking but will not fire, or does it do nothing at all? She cranked but no start, not even a try. I think I missed something in the install. Now I have the written instructions Dingy provided and will try again; just not too soon. lemme know your thoughts!
yamagrl Posted August 6, 2016 #13 Posted August 6, 2016 dna9656 said: Because I removed the air box to get to the TCI I now have to re-connect the air cleaner box BIG hose to the twinkie. I found a relatively easy method to connect that sucker. 1. Attach the tube to the bottom of the airbox 2. Attach a really long zip tie (14" or so) to the lower end of the tube with a small zip tie. So I have in effect I have made a zip tie tail on the bottom of the tube. 3. Then feed the long tail down between the carbs and tug on the tail and guide the hose into place.
bongobobny Posted August 6, 2016 #14 Posted August 6, 2016 I use really looong needle nose pliers! I'm gonna try Heather's system the next time though...
dna9656 Posted August 6, 2016 Author #15 Posted August 6, 2016 bongobobny said: I use really looong needle nose pliers! I'm gonna try Heather's system the next time though... The original air box to twinkie hose was pretty hard from heat and age; so having a new one on hand I replaced it. This made pushing the hose on to the fittings easier; WAY easier BUT it's still a ***** to do. I'd like to see how Yamaha does this but as usual the manual is long on WHAT TO DO but pretty short on HOW TO DO. How come you can't buy thin wall tubing (like the twinkie hose is made of and the fuel hose as well) in bulk? EVERY auto house around just shakes their collective head when you show them this stuff and they say " I can't get that thin wall tubing..." except the stuff for some windshield washer setups but then that tubing can't stand up to gasoline and oil.
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