kevin-vic-b.c. Posted July 31, 2016 #1 Posted July 31, 2016 I have been having trouble with the kick stand on my 2nd gen. Very difficult at times to move it down mostly but sometimes back up also. I put the bike up on my Carbon1 stand to work on it. It was totally dry at the fitting so some WD-40 added to loosen it up then some Molly grease as best I could everywhere. My question is, at the knuckle with the bolt through it is there supposed to be play or is it supposed to be a snug fit between the bored holes and the bolt. When the stand is down I can get maybe an inch of play up and down on the stand. Is this ok or is it a sign that the bolt and or the bore is worn or wearing out? Thanks much
Gary N. Posted July 31, 2016 #2 Posted July 31, 2016 Sounds like you need a new bolt and bushing. I replaced mine a couple of years ago. Can't remember the price but not too expensive.
Yammer Dan Posted August 1, 2016 #3 Posted August 1, 2016 Remove while you got it on the stand. If it is worn replace or it will fail on you when you need it!!
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted August 1, 2016 Author #4 Posted August 1, 2016 Sounds like you need a new bolt and bushing. I replaced mine a couple of years ago. Can't remember the price but not too expensive. Thanks, I now know there is a bushing in there. I looked up the parts at Yamaha Sports Plaza out of Oregon but the $14.00 USD worth of parts would be $40.00 USD in shipping so I will see if I can get them here in Canada. But now I know what I have to fix.
Yammer Dan Posted August 3, 2016 #6 Posted August 3, 2016 The bolt is what you will need. I would pull it and take a look at it so you can try to match it up. Cain't remember what it looks like but I'm thinking a strange critter....
gggGary Posted August 3, 2016 #7 Posted August 3, 2016 You mean some give as the bike leans on the stand isn't normal?
Gary N. Posted August 3, 2016 #8 Posted August 3, 2016 You mean some give as the bike leans on the stand isn't normal? Nope! With somebody holding the bike upright, lift up and down on the kick stand, when it's extended. There shouldn't be any, or very little movement. If so replace the bushing and maybe the bolt too.
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted August 4, 2016 Author #9 Posted August 4, 2016 try parts shark Ok, local dealer price was very fair at $35.00 but would have to be ordered in and it could take 3 to 4 weeks to arrive from Ontario. Ok it did not take my son 4 weeks to ride his bicycle to Ontario I don't think. So Parts Shark it is, 5 days shipping for $9.00 USD and about $13.00 USD for the parts. I am ok with spending a couple extra dollars to get the parts but no excuse for weeks of wait time in this Global World. Even Canada Post can have it to me in less than a week.
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted August 27, 2016 Author #10 Posted August 27, 2016 What a trip around the internet and shops to get the parts. On line order I was told they are back ordered until end of September. Dealer that had told me weeks to get the bolt and bushing had them for me in 7 days. So now I figure an few minutes and change a bolt right.... wrong. Who has changed this bolt and bushing. I found a thread that told me to put quarters between the spring windings to make it easy to re move but what do I have to do to get that blasted bolt out?
camos Posted August 27, 2016 #11 Posted August 27, 2016 What a trip around the internet and shops to get the parts. On line order I was told they are back ordered until end of September. Dealer that had told me weeks to get the bolt and bushing had them for me in 7 days. So now I figure an few minutes and change a bolt right.... wrong. Who has changed this bolt and bushing. I found a thread that told me to put quarters between the spring windings to make it easy to re move but what do I have to do to get that blasted bolt out? Are you sure there is a bolt and a bushing. As I recall my Gen 1 uses a shouldered bolt although a regular bolt and a bushing would likely work just as well. Obviously, pull the spring before removing the bolt. It shouldn't be too difficult to stretch the spring with the side stand in the up position. Although using quarters or washers to spread the spring is a very good idea. If the bolt is worn out of round then it just might be hanging up. Once the pressure is relieved using a drift punch should pop the bolt out.
WIZ Posted August 27, 2016 #12 Posted August 27, 2016 I just changed mine ealier this week. You have to take the two bolts out of the driver's floor board to allow it to drop down out of the way so you can get the bolt out. Took me about fifteen minutes to change mine. WIZ
Guest divey Posted September 25, 2016 #13 Posted September 25, 2016 Nope! With somebody holding the bike upright, lift up and down on the kick stand, when it's extended. There shouldn't be any, or very little movement. If so replace the bushing and maybe the bolt too. Replaced mine today, bolt, bushing and nut. Still have probably a half inch of play. Doug
Guest divey Posted September 25, 2016 #14 Posted September 25, 2016 I just changed mine ealier this week. You have to take the two bolts out of the driver's floor board to allow it to drop down out of the way so you can get the bolt out. Took me about fifteen minutes to change mine. WIZ Dropping the floorboard is a must in my view. Tried doing it without and couldn't. For those folks attempting this job, the side stand nut is a real pain to loosen up but it will finally break free once you've cursed it a few times! Doug
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted September 26, 2016 Author #15 Posted September 26, 2016 I think thebest advise through all of this was to put quarters in the spring windings. I have been turning wrenches on everything and everything since I was 9 uears old and never had I heard this advice..... it was fantastic.
baylensman Posted September 27, 2016 #16 Posted September 27, 2016 Checking play, with the stand in the up position (riding) i have almost zero play in and out ( that would be up and down at the park postition), but when swinging it down (parked) there is not quite 1/2" (thats a 1/4" up and 1/4" down or less when pressure applied) of play at the wire loop. So i checked my bro's '15 Harley and my sons '96 yamaha both are similar no play in the up position but some small play in the down position. I would think some play would be necessary ( how much?) as when you get off the bike the suspension unloads and the angle would have to change, then change back again when you got on.
ragtop69gs Posted September 27, 2016 #17 Posted September 27, 2016 You can't compare a HD touring bike stand to ours, they are completely different types a of stands. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted September 27, 2016 Author #18 Posted September 27, 2016 I think the point is though that play up and down when stand is extended is "normal" I have checked my wife, Lori, V-Star stand and it has about the same movement. I think the biggest thing is to lube that joint up with the Molly grease. I believe that was 90% of my problem. My bolt and bushing was not worn visibly, it may mic out poorly but not hugely. what do they say... if it doesn't move and it should...... WD-40 if it moves and should not..............Duct Tape
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