videoarizona Posted January 24, 2017 #151 Posted January 24, 2017 patted the seat as I walked through the garage. Funny. I did same thing when I got home this afternoon after being gone for a week. They missed me...sniff..
Matt_P Posted January 25, 2017 #152 Posted January 25, 2017 started removing the forks, but got stuck when I found (and I assume that this is ) the air system. I cannot figure out how to get them off. pinch bolts are all loose. and the cross hose and supply line are disco from the bike. but getting the forks past the lower mount will require these air things to be removed I think. just don't know how. any advice?
camos Posted January 25, 2017 #153 Posted January 25, 2017 started removing the forks, but got stuck when I found (and I assume that this is ) the air system. I cannot figure out how to get them off. pinch bolts are all loose. and the cross hose and supply line are disco from the bike. but getting the forks past the lower mount will require these air things to be removed I think. just don't know how. any advice?There is a spring clip under the air fitting. It comes off easily with no tool required.
Matt_P Posted January 25, 2017 #154 Posted January 25, 2017 There is a spring clip under the air fitting. It comes off easily with no tool required. I found the spring clip, so It should just slide up or down after that? mine are stuck
camos Posted January 25, 2017 #155 Posted January 25, 2017 I found the spring clip, so It should just slide up or down after that? mine are stuckThey should just slide. The clip holds them on the bottom and the top triple clamp holds them on the top. There are two o-rings inside that make the seal with the fork tube. Note the right fitting has a stopper pin that matches to the top triple clamp. The left one just floats. When assembling don't forget to oil the o-rings.
gggGary Posted January 25, 2017 Author #156 Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Doesn't hurt to remove the clamp bolts and tap a screwdriver in the slot a bit. Did a gen2 last night, tubes dropped out as soon as the screwdriver went in. The story got this bike with 10K and a bit of fork slop did the quicky nut snug and 4K later forks had a BAD notch, bought the all balls kit and tore it down yesterday. I was surprised at what I found I thought these were all ball bearing? Shrug. No question I had overtightened and ruined the tapered bearings, damnit. As usual the all balls "universal bottom seal" isn't a good fit, may wait and order a factory seal. Had to custom grind and regrind my "hardened axle" bearing driver a few times before the lower race came out. not much of a lip to catch. No kidding on the "pain in the behind" comments about doing this. Edited January 25, 2017 by gggGary
videoarizona Posted January 25, 2017 #157 Posted January 25, 2017 Doesn't hurt to remove the clamp bolts and tap a screwdriver in the slot a bit. Did a gen2 last night, tubes dropped out as soon as the screwdriver went in. The story got this bike with 10K and a bit of fork slop did the quicky nut snug and 4K later forks had a BAD notch, bought the all balls kit and tore it down yesterday. I was surprised at what I found I thought these were all ball bearing? Shrug. No question I had overtightened and ruined the tapered bearings, damnit. As usual the all balls "universal bottom seal" isn't a good fit, may wait and order a factory seal. Had to custom grind and regrind my "hardened axle" bearing driver a few times before the lower race came out. not much of a lip to catch. No kidding on the "pain in the behind" comments about doing this. OK...you got me wondering. Why so much work? You planning on other works besides forks? When I rebuilt my forks, I simply dropped them out...leaving most of the front end intact...including the inner fairing. Curious....? david
CaseyJ955 Posted January 25, 2017 #158 Posted January 25, 2017 Doesn't hurt to remove the clamp bolts and tap a screwdriver in the slot a bit. Did a gen2 last night, tubes dropped out as soon as the screwdriver went in. The story got this bike with 10K and a bit of fork slop did the quicky nut snug and 4K later forks had a BAD notch, bought the all balls kit and tore it down yesterday. I was surprised at what I found I thought these were all ball bearing? Shrug. No question I had overtightened and ruined the tapered bearings, damnit. As usual the all balls "universal bottom seal" isn't a good fit, may wait and order a factory seal. Had to custom grind and regrind my "hardened axle" bearing driver a few times before the lower race came out. not much of a lip to catch. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108191 http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108192 http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108193 No kidding on the "pain in the behind" comments about doing this. I got the All Balls kit and put it in also, the seals fit fine but that lower was more like a dust shield than an actual seal. I dropped the forks out the bottom and then disassembled the tree and removed everything/clean/install new races and bearings. I also was expecting to find ball bearings inside instead of rollers. It was somewhat of a knuckle buster with fairings in place but doable. I replaced all the fork bushings, seals and progressives while I had it apart. There is a video I cant find now on youtube. It's from like the 80s and the tech wears a big proud pornstache but shows how to tell if it's right without being to tight or too loose. I got a fork spanner from Dingy and that made adjustment infinitely easier. I watched it several times and tried to get mine spot on. This job was just enough of a pain that I really dont want to have to do it again. With all the work I have done to the forks and head bearings I'm expecting a rock solid buck ten on the superslab instead of the terrifying 70 mph vibration. When I installed the races I removed the old with a hardened steel longpunch and started the new ones with a rubber mallet and brass drift being careful not to let it bind. After they were flush I used the old races to seat them firmly then the brass drift again to knock the old ones back out. There really isnt much room to work and if I ever have to do it again I'll consider fairing removal. Oh yea, you aint kidding about not much of a lip for the lower race. I used my dremel to get a nice sharp edge to set it on. I did all the work last fall and have yet to ride it, it's killin' me not too know how much improvement I got with all this work.
gggGary Posted January 25, 2017 Author #159 Posted January 25, 2017 OK...you got me wondering. Why so much work? You planning on other works besides forks? When I rebuilt my forks, I simply dropped them out...leaving most of the front end intact...including the inner fairing. Curious....? david NOW you tell me! Um... the fairing was dusty inside and needed cleaning. Yeah that's it! actually like mentioned it's awful tight to get at with the fairing on and my bearing install involves big chunks of pipe and sledge hammers. (Really) will post up some more later but the new races are in and I've got 8" of wet snow to plow.
videoarizona Posted January 26, 2017 #160 Posted January 26, 2017 Um... the fairing was dusty inside and needed cleaning. Yeah that's it! Now that works for me!
videoarizona Posted January 30, 2017 #161 Posted January 30, 2017 Don't forget to lower the front end (move fork tubes up in the trees) if you still have her apart. About 1 inch works well.... Handles better and doesn't sacrifice ride or cornering.
N3FOL Posted January 30, 2017 #162 Posted January 30, 2017 I wiped the tank down and then rode for about 10 minutes. Came home and then plugged the battery to my trickle charger and said "Good Night.":cry:
stickhandle2 Posted January 30, 2017 #163 Posted January 30, 2017 Visited mine in the garage, snow on the ground slick roads, lots of crap, so just it just sits for now. Mike
CaseyJ955 Posted January 30, 2017 #165 Posted January 30, 2017 I finally got around to going to town to pick up my shipments, no break in the weather yet but I got to at least unbox and oogle at a new Ignitek TCI and a fresh set of carb diaphragms from the UK. Hoping for a break in the weather soon.
gggGary Posted January 30, 2017 Author #166 Posted January 30, 2017 Don't forget to lower the front end (move fork tubes up in the trees) if you still have her apart. About 1 inch works well.... Handles better and doesn't sacrifice ride or cornering. I downsized the front tire (Shinko 777 HD Front Tire 130/90-16) last fall, rode down through Tenn, Georgia, thought that improved things, will leave it at that for now. Might maybe jack the rear with the linkage mod. I picked up an FJR in November as a light winter project (done) so have the sporting side covered. Will have to choose and sell one of the big bikes this spring. Use my XS650s for local rides. RSV still needs to go back together.
leo3wheel Posted January 31, 2017 #167 Posted January 31, 2017 Inflated tires and rode it. Trickle charge overnight... Then to sleep for a month...
snyper316 Posted January 31, 2017 #168 Posted January 31, 2017 went for a test ride with the new horn,wires, and split fire plugs
snyper316 Posted January 31, 2017 #169 Posted January 31, 2017 Finished up and went for a ride, new windscreen new wiring to TCI, New fuse Block.
snyper316 Posted February 3, 2017 #170 Posted February 3, 2017 Got my carbtune today and synced the carbs, the weren't to far off. Now just waiting for my colortune to come in. Living life one curve after the other. Vroom scooting, thru the countryside.
snyper316 Posted February 4, 2017 #171 Posted February 4, 2017 Had me a visitor today guess he wants to go for a ride!! Living life one curve after the other. Vroom scooting, thru the countryside.
Rc8111 Posted February 5, 2017 #172 Posted February 5, 2017 I know you guys don't know me but I thought I would post something. Here in Boise it finally got above freezing so I carved a path thru the ice and out of the driveway and took my 83 Venture for an hour or so ride. I just picked it up and this is the first chance I've had to actually ride it..
cowpuc Posted February 5, 2017 #173 Posted February 5, 2017 I know you guys don't know me but I thought I would post something. Here in Boise it finally got above freezing so I carved a path thru the ice and out of the driveway and took my 83 Venture for an hour or so ride. I just picked it up and this is the first chance I've had to actually ride it.. Hi RC and WELCOME to VR!! Sounds like your scoot and mine (her name is "Tweeksis") have a lot in common my friend.. Here is a shot of us doing exactly what you and your scoot just did under the same situation... FINALLY got a break in the weather here in West Michigan and the clouds of medical issues subsided enough to get out and suck in some fresh air!!! Get a chance - would LOVE to see a shot of your scoot!! All the best! Puc
Rc8111 Posted February 5, 2017 #174 Posted February 5, 2017 It's pretty ragged. I've had it less than a week. Just wanted something for trips. The Shadow is hard on my wife when we take long rides. If I can figure it out I'll post the picture. Thank you for the welcome. I am impressed with this site
snyper316 Posted February 5, 2017 #175 Posted February 5, 2017 Here is my 83 Tinker in all her glory, Welcome Rc. These are really confortable bikes I was hard pressed to find something a couple years ago, I have got a wealth of knowledge from this site. None of us care how ragedy your bike looks we just love to see these beautiful works of art! They are trully a joy to own and ride, You treat it good and do the maintenance you will have a scoot last you a very long time. @cowpuc as put well over 200,000 on these 83's. One thing I would check on is to see what battery wire's you have on that bike and do an upgrade from Yamagrl. I bought a set and I love them. You can see them here on my bike the one wire she added in to easily ad accessories, I added this fuse block about a week ago. Get on that bike of yours and ride her like you stole her but ride like your invisible!!! Enjoy and welcome!!!!
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