Rick Butler Posted April 16, 2008 #52 Posted April 16, 2008 Condor, The brace you are looking at appears to pretty much be an exact copy of the latest of the 1st Gen Super Brace. In fact I bought one of their first ones for my 86, which at that time was about 1 1/2" thick. Later they must have realized that they had over engineered it and made it thinner. For those don't know the history of the Venture and the Super Brace, this was one of the best additions for your bike to affect handling. Even though the Ventures already had a decent for brace, it didn't compare to the Super Brace which was a precise fit and really made the forks feel solid. So I think what you are doing is a geat deal for those who don't already have one of these braces or are not aware of what they do for the bikes handling. The only thing I would be concerend about is, does this person know that the fork diameter changed in 1990 when Yamaha went with the rubber fork boots. When I move the brace from my 86 to my new 91, I had to relieve the circumference a bit so it would slip down past the rubber boots. However it might be that most of the owners of these 90-93 Ventures have taken off these boots and opted for another option for deflecting bugs and dirt from the fork lowers. And as far as the issue with the recessed hole being a water trap, a chrome or nickle hole plug (the diameter of the resession) with a little clear silicon hole on it makes for a nice looking water-proof cover. Good work, Rick
Condor Posted April 16, 2008 Author #53 Posted April 16, 2008 raised Hands and enlisted in Order of Appearance: 1. Condor 2. Condor 3. Squeeze 4. Rocket 5. squidley 6. lonestarmedic 7. Ken8143 8. DANJ 9. esaffley 10. nyjerry 11. nyjerry 12. BJBoomer 13. helomech 14. friesman1
Squeeze Posted April 16, 2008 #54 Posted April 16, 2008 Second gen does not use a fork brace and to be honest, I've never felt that it has needed one. 2 Gen would have to use a 5 Inch Block to keep up with the fat front Tire. :rotf: Just kidding
Rick Butler Posted April 16, 2008 #55 Posted April 16, 2008 Oh Condor, Like Don mentioned, the Royal Stars do not have a fork brace and really don't need one because of the heavy metal fender and the larger diameter forks. Besides there is not a feasable place to mount one because of the lower fork covers. Rick
Condor Posted April 16, 2008 Author #56 Posted April 16, 2008 Condor, The brace you are looking at appears to pretty much be an exact copy of the latest of the 1st Gen Super Brace. In fact I bought one of their first ones for my 86, which at that time was about 1 1/2" thick. Later they must have realized that they had over engineered it and made it thinner. For those don't know the history of the Venture and the Super Brace, this was one of the best additions for your bike to affect handling. Even though the Ventures already had a decent for brace, it didn't compare to the Super Brace which was a precise fit and really made the forks feel solid. So I think what you are doing is a geat deal for those who don't already have one of these braces or are not aware of what they do for the bikes handling. The only thing I would be concerend about is, does this person know that the fork diameter changed in 1990 when Yamaha went with the rubber fork boots. When I move the brace from my 86 to my new 91, I had to relieve the circumference a bit so it would slip down past the rubber boots. However it might be that most of the owners of these 90-93 Ventures have taken off these boots and opted for another option for deflecting bugs and dirt from the fork lowers. And as far as the issue with the recessed hole being a water trap, a chrome or nickle hole plug (the diameter of the resession) with a little clear silicon hole on it makes for a nice looking water-proof cover. Good work, Rick Thanks for the insight Rick. I think by now most of the fork covers have disintigrated on the 90-93's. I have a set of really neat fork covers on the '91 that Black Owl made for me. Super Brace has the same part number for all the 1stGen years, so I think they presumed the fork covers had become toast too. I've run into a plastic plug somewhere?? that would also make a great rain water protector. Jack
Squeeze Posted April 16, 2008 #58 Posted April 16, 2008 raised Hands and enlisted in Order of Appearance: 1. Condor 2. Condor 3. Squeeze 4. Rocket 5. squidley 6. lonestarmedic 7. Ken8143 8. DANJ 9. esaffley 10. nyjerry 11. nyjerry 12. BJBoomer 13. helomech 14. Snaggletooth 15. jdross440 16. HPG 17. Midicat 18. Dokon 19. Ballgoof 20. rumn1 21. scubabill 22. friesman1 now Jack .. you got me in and counting
Marcarl Posted April 16, 2008 #59 Posted April 16, 2008 raised Hands and enlisted in Order of Appearance: 1. Condor 2. Condor 3. Squeeze 4. Rocket 5. squidley 6. lonestarmedic 7. Ken8143 8. DANJ 9. esaffley 10. nyjerry 11. nyjerry 12. BJBoomer 13. helomech 14. friesman1 15 Marcarl
Squeeze Posted April 16, 2008 #60 Posted April 16, 2008 I have noticed a bit of a wobble in turns, if this cleans that up I am all for it, sign me up. Johnnie arbee_11@yahoo.com It helps for sure. Can it cure a Wobble ? Not sure, depends .... Shall we count you in or not ?
Squeeze Posted April 16, 2008 #61 Posted April 16, 2008 raised Hands and enlisted in Order of Appearance: 1. Condor 2. Condor 3. Squeeze 4. Rocket 5. squidley 6. lonestarmedic 7. Ken8143 8. DANJ 9. esaffley 10. nyjerry 11. nyjerry 12. BJBoomer 13. helomech 14. Snaggletooth 15. jdross440 16. HPG 17. Midicat 18. Dokon 19. Ballgoof 20. rumn1 21. scubabill 22. friesman1 23. run n bare 24. Marcarl
Marcarl Posted April 16, 2008 #62 Posted April 16, 2008 Ok so I just got mine on the list, Thanks Condor
Squidley Posted April 16, 2008 #63 Posted April 16, 2008 I like the black one, if it's not an imposition I would want a black one. If it's a PIA then I'll just go with what is easier. Thanks Jack for stepping up to the plate on this, I know I appreciate all you go through to make this happen for us
Condor Posted April 16, 2008 Author #64 Posted April 16, 2008 I like the black one, if it's not an imposition I would want a black one. If it's a PIA then I'll just go with what is easier. Thanks Jack for stepping up to the plate on this, I know I appreciate all you go through to make this happen for us I'll be getting back to all of those on the list with all the payment details and color choice Brad. I like the black one too. The '91 already has a bare aluminum on it, and it's coming off in lieu of the black. The '83 and the '87 are running bare..... 17 more for the $50 dollar level.... Think we can make it?
Marcarl Posted April 16, 2008 #65 Posted April 16, 2008 If it is better or cheaper to ship more than one in a package, we have a Meet & Greet here at the end of May and if that suits everyone, we could have them all shipped here and maybe put on the same day.
Condor Posted April 16, 2008 Author #66 Posted April 16, 2008 If it is better or cheaper to ship more than one in a package, we have a Meet & Greet here at the end of May and if that suits everyone, we could have them all shipped here and maybe put on the same day. If all works out, it could be done Carl. It would be up to you to figure out who's doing the M&E, and are on the list. Any money saved on shipping this way would have to be refunded after the fact because of the prepay. I don't want to get into a logistics problem, but just let me know and I'll try my best to get'r done.....
MikeM8560 Posted April 16, 2008 #67 Posted April 16, 2008 Sorry Jack, I allready have a Super Brace on mine..........nice when polished up, I sciped the clear coat. Kurt What is the advantage of the brace over the stock? mine dosent seem to have any wobble sway ect.
PRAIRIECOOT Posted April 16, 2008 #68 Posted April 16, 2008 yes I would be interested 1985 venture Thankx Merv
MikeM8560 Posted April 16, 2008 #69 Posted April 16, 2008 Put me in for 1. One bike has one and one doesn't Is it a big noticable diffrence?
Condor Posted April 16, 2008 Author #70 Posted April 16, 2008 What is the advantage of the brace over the stock? mine dosent seem to have any wobble sway ect. Just to make it short and sweet I gleaned this off the Super Brace site. reduces speed wobbles, fork flex, front tire wear and rain groove sensitivity while dramatically improving overall handling and front-end stability.
hipshot Posted April 16, 2008 #71 Posted April 16, 2008 is this O.E.M, after market, superbrace, ? just jt
Condor Posted April 16, 2008 Author #72 Posted April 16, 2008 is this O.E.M, after market, superbrace, ? just jt It's definately aftermarket John. Not sure if it's a Super Brace??
Rocket Posted April 16, 2008 #73 Posted April 16, 2008 is this O.E.M, after market, superbrace, ? just jt Not OEM, think you're good with this one.
kort53 Posted April 16, 2008 #74 Posted April 16, 2008 Put me down for one if I'm not too late, I just got an email about it and I have been wanting one.
hipshot Posted April 16, 2008 #75 Posted April 16, 2008 Not OEM, think you're good with this one. thanks paul, and you too , jack! ya'll just saved me a handful of coins! just jt
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