Yammer Dan Posted July 3, 2016 #1 Posted July 3, 2016 Hey guys what is a good price for a Voyager kit for 85 or 86? Are they interchangeable from 1st to 2nd gen? And anything on Voyager that would interfere with 1st Gen floorboards?? Just doing some thinking again. Yeah I know. Dangerous.....
Condor Posted July 3, 2016 #2 Posted July 3, 2016 Can't offer much help in the compatibility dept Dan... Price wise I would think it's a matter of luck to get a screamin' deal on a kit. You see lots of them where folks are asking around $2000 grand for one, but the snag is it didn't come off a Venture so the mounting kit is different, and they run right at $700 from Voyager. I lucked out. Picked up a 2006 Voyager WITH a 2ndGen kit for $1200 bucks. I'm the 3rd owner. The party I bought from had to buy a new kit for his Kawasaki Voyager. So the original kit from the first owner just sat and looked new. It was listed on Craigslist locally, and the guy originally had it listed for 2 grand with both mounting kits. I was figuring on making him an offer of 1500 since I was the only O.F. within 500 miles that would possibly be interested, and had the bike that it fit... He countered with just the one kit for the RSV at $1500...I offered $1200 and he turned it down. So he kept listing the Voyager over the next 2 months. I finally emailed him and said I still had that $1200. He responded with 'Come get it'. It's really hard to beat dumb ass luck....
djh3 Posted July 3, 2016 #3 Posted July 3, 2016 Kit on my local CL has one going for $1300. Fits the V-star line 1300-1900 etc.
Condor Posted July 3, 2016 #4 Posted July 3, 2016 Kit on my local CL has one going for $1300. Fits the V-star line 1300-1900 etc. One thing you have to be careful about is they come in different sizes. A , B, C, or D. Here's a link to the page that will let you know what's what.... http://www.mtcvoyager.com/kits-available/ So even if you find one for sale, it has to be the right size, and most for sale came off a Harley.. Both the 1st and 2ndGen take the 'B' kit. I'd call Voyager tech to make sure the mounting kits are the same...
cowpuc Posted July 3, 2016 #5 Posted July 3, 2016 sorry brother,, no idea,,, ,,,,,, ,,, maybe expand your search into side hack land:witch_brew::witch_brew::witch_brew: FYI - I use "Adhuntr.com" a lot to do a nationwide Craigs search....
Condor Posted July 3, 2016 #7 Posted July 3, 2016 Or... you could just google it using craigslist.org: voyager kit You'll get every kit listed on Craigs. You might also try craigslist.org: voyager trike
BlueSky Posted July 4, 2016 #8 Posted July 4, 2016 http://wilmington.craigslist.org/mcy/5608252439.html
Condor Posted July 4, 2016 #9 Posted July 4, 2016 http://wilmington.craigslist.org/mcy/5608252439.html I believe that's a Tow Pak kit. They really do look like training wheels.
mirider Posted July 4, 2016 #10 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) As Condor stated, the "B" size is correct for both Gen I & II Ventures but the mounting hardware will be different. I lucked out with mine and got a "demo" unit that was installed on a Harley the dealer owned and saved substantially, but he had to order mounting hardware for my RSV. Not sure how much the hardware cost as I was given a package price installed. I see used units in this area going for around $2K. Edited July 4, 2016 by mirider added pic
Condor Posted July 5, 2016 #11 Posted July 5, 2016 Looks like we have the same model Voyager, and I'm not completely positive, but we have classics. The standard doesn't have the fender guards or the 'tombstone' taillights.
mirider Posted July 5, 2016 #12 Posted July 5, 2016 They do look identical Condor but I was told I have the Standard kit with optional fender shields and lights. One of the best things I've ever done....
Condor Posted July 5, 2016 #13 Posted July 5, 2016 Shows ya what I know. I thought I read somewhere that was the way the classics came. Anyway... Grreat lookin' Voyagers...
rickardracing Posted July 9, 2016 #14 Posted July 9, 2016 I rode on my father inlaws 20th anniversary Goldwing this week and he has a voyager kit on it. That thing rode like poo poo kah kah. He is not impressed with it. Remember, you get what you pay for. I rented a 2015 HD Ultra Classic Low for Thursday and my wife and I were behind him, she noticed how slow he had to take corners and how the wheels would lift if he went to hard. She said there was no way she would ride on that bike.
cowpuc Posted July 9, 2016 #15 Posted July 9, 2016 Tip and I took MiRider's Voyager Triked Gen 2 out for a cruise a couple days ago and I was impressed.. I have test ridden a number of Harley Tri-Glides and my neighbor has a Harley FreeWheeler that I have spent a lot of time on - will say the straight axle Harley's do handle quicker (more like the 350X's/250R's I used to LOVE playing on) but,, on the other hand,, the Voyager seemed to respond to lean input (get to keep some of that motorcycle "feel" - dont misread though, they still steer like a trike) -- totally different ride characteristics IMHO.. One of the things I noticed about the Voyager that I really liked was it didnt seem to have a spooky jump to it when hitting rough road in a corner reguiring careful corrective steering input like the straight ax HD did.. On the other had, I really think the HD handles more like a sports car, giving me the feeling it would corner faster than the Voyager.. Looking at the undercarriage of the Voyager brought about some questions to which Mirider gave me some good solid answers that made sense.. One of the things we talked about was "setting up" the Voyager for the bike it is mounted to. If I remember correctly, Dave had the shop that actually sells the Voyager both install it AND set up the pre-load on the outer wheels.. After riding it, I can see where having the preload fairly close would be a crucial measurement because it seems like its the pre-load that controls the stability when riding or sitting.. I personally could have a BLAST on either means of Triking BUT,, I gotta say,,, before I would spend the bigger money on a straight axle Trike such as a Harley (or any other brand for that matter) I would beg, borrow or steal (not really - I am no thief) a Trike with Independent Suspention on the back side of it and spend some time on it.. I have owned 4x4 Quads, a number of them, and gotta say that the Suzuki King Quad with its Independent Suspention all the way around (most 4x4 quads were straight axles) would go places most quads only dreamed of (cause all four wheels stayed on the ground) and were no where near a jittery as the straight axes on the stutter bumps on gravel roads.. I have a hunch that Independent Suspention on a Trike MAY just be worth the money if your gonna spend the big bucks... How's that for someone who has never owned a Triked road bike
ragtop69gs Posted July 9, 2016 #16 Posted July 9, 2016 The Hannigan with its independent suspension rides great and corners like a Corvette, when out riding with Carbon One (he had a straight axle Tri-wing) when cornering, our Hannigan stayed firmly planted in the corners while his Tri-wing would lift a wheel. The independent suspension also has a much more supple ride on rough road. If your wallet allows, the Hannigan is the way to go. Puc, next time you are in the same place as our trike, we'll give you a chance to add it to your demo bucket. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
mirider Posted July 9, 2016 #17 Posted July 9, 2016 @rickardracing - I suspect your father-in-law's Voyager is not set up right. In a year of use and thousands of miles I have yet to lift a wheel off the ground in a turn. I am aware of the negative traits of an outrigger kit but I am entirely satisfied with mine. @cowpuc - Nice write up on your thoughts and comparisons. If you think about it, the Voyager has IRS in effect as each wheel is allowed to float independent of the other and, if the pre-load is adjusted properly, will maintain proper contact with the road whether uneven surfaces or in a turn.
Condor Posted July 9, 2016 #18 Posted July 9, 2016 I rode on my father inlaws 20th anniversary Goldwing this week and he has a voyager kit on it. That thing rode like poo poo kah kah. He is not impressed with it. Remember, you get what you pay for. I rented a 2015 HD Ultra Classic Low for Thursday and my wife and I were behind him, she noticed how slow he had to take corners and how the wheels would lift if he went to hard. She said there was no way she would ride on that bike. Yep, you're right.... if the kit isn't set up properly. When tuned in they ride very well. As far as the wheel coming off the ground when cornering, that's what they are supposed to do. Here's a video of their website demoing how to ride and what to expect.
rickardracing Posted July 9, 2016 #19 Posted July 9, 2016 @rickardracing - I suspect your father-in-law's Voyager is not set up right. In a year of use and thousands of miles I have yet to lift a wheel off the ground in a turn. I am aware of the negative traits of an outrigger kit but I am entirely satisfied with mine. @cowpuc - Nice write up on your thoughts and comparisons. If you think about it, the Voyager has IRS in effect as each wheel is allowed to float independent of the other and, if the pre-load is adjusted properly, will maintain proper contact with the road whether uneven surfaces or in a turn. The kit was installed and set up by a Voyager dealer, I do believe in Alpena Michigan. I am quite sure it is set up properly, but not going to argue with anyone on here about it because I will never own one and I really do not care. I was giving my .02 on the ride quality I personally experienced when I rode it and the fact that he is not happy with it. He rode my brother inlaws 2013 Goldwing Hannigan and loved it, said he wished he would have went that route. Now he is not sure what he is going to do. 76 years old and not sure how much longer he is going to ride. Now, I rode it and compared to the 2015 Harley Tri-glide I put over 200 miles on last year out in South Dakota....I would not even consider the Voyager. I was not impressed with it one darn bit. I personally think they look terrible, look like training wheels on a motorcycle and would not waste my money on one. I liked the Tri-glide. I had no issue with it at all. I want to try a Second Gen with the hannigan. I believe that if and when I do get a trike (bad knees) It will be an independent suspension.
Yammer Dan Posted July 9, 2016 Author #20 Posted July 9, 2016 My pockets would be hard put to do the Hannigan now. Retirement??? This Crap sucks!!!
rickardracing Posted July 9, 2016 #21 Posted July 9, 2016 My pockets would be hard put to do the Hannigan now. Retirement??? This Crap sucks!!! I know your pain brother. I am looking at long term finances and how I will be able to retire and be able to live a comfortable life. I screwed up years ago. Just now at 52 trying to put some cash away for that time I hope to enjoy. It ain't looking pretty.
mirider Posted July 9, 2016 #22 Posted July 9, 2016 The kit was installed and set up by a Voyager dealer, I do believe in Alpena Michigan. I am quite sure it is set up properly, but not going to argue with anyone on here about it because I will never own one and I really do not care. I was giving my .02 on the ride quality I personally experienced when I rode it and the fact that he is not happy with it. He rode my brother inlaws 2013 Goldwing Hannigan and loved it, said he wished he would have went that route. Now he is not sure what he is going to do. 76 years old and not sure how much longer he is going to ride. Now, I rode it and compared to the 2015 Harley Tri-glide I put over 200 miles on last year out in South Dakota....I would not even consider the Voyager. I was not impressed with it one darn bit. I personally think they look terrible, look like training wheels on a motorcycle and would not waste my money on one. I liked the Tri-glide. I had no issue with it at all. I want to try a Second Gen with the hannigan. I believe that if and when I do get a trike (bad knees) It will be an independent suspension. Geez rickard - Why not tell us how you really feel. Who's arguing, I was just trying to help......Like they say - Different strokes for different folks
rickardracing Posted July 9, 2016 #23 Posted July 9, 2016 Geez rickard - Why not tell us how you really feel. Who's arguing, I was just trying to help......Like they say - Different strokes for different folks I do not sugar coat things. Simple as that. I stated my opinion, my father inlaws opinion and the first thin said was because I feel it rides like crap that it must not be set up correctly so I made it clear again. Basically, Voyager kits just like Harbor Freight.....you get what you pay for. Some do not mind these kits. I highly suggest that before buying any trike conversion that you should really try and arrange a test ride on your particular bike with that kit. He did not do that. Now after dropping a few thousand dollars he regrets it. When living on a fixed income, you really need to investigate before you buy. Nuff said. Done on the subject.
bongobobny Posted July 9, 2016 #24 Posted July 9, 2016 Hey mirider come to the WNY rally next month and I'll let you try out my Hannigan! Then you can think about what yours would be like as mine started out as an '09 S too!
cowpuc Posted July 10, 2016 #25 Posted July 10, 2016 I do not sugar coat things. Simple as that. I stated my opinion, my father inlaws opinion and the first thin said was because I feel it rides like crap that it must not be set up correctly so I made it clear again. Basically, Voyager kits just like Harbor Freight.....you get what you pay for. Some do not mind these kits. I highly suggest that before buying any trike conversion that you should really try and arrange a test ride on your particular bike with that kit. He did not do that. Now after dropping a few thousand dollars he regrets it. When living on a fixed income, you really need to investigate before you buy. Nuff said. Done on the subject. Absolutely positively NO truer or wiser words have EVER been spoken Randy!!:clap2::clap2: I am really sorry to hear about your In-Laws dislike for what he ended up with.. I wonder if you/we/I could help him sell either the Voyager Kit alone or the whole unit so he could start over again? Maybe get together with some of our members and let him try out a Hannigan Trike and maybe jump on a Tri-Glide at a Harley demo to give him some seat time on one of those too? I would be more than happy to post it on Craigs for him and on our site too if you dont have the time.. All I would need is a few pictures.. Life is to short to be stuck with something that is suppose to be bringing endless 's on and ends up being something you really do not want/like!!
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