flyday58 Posted March 5, 2016 #1 Posted March 5, 2016 Happy Spring everyone, Was thinking about getting rid of the Venture since moving to the mountains. Living 5 miles up a dirt and rock canyon road is pretty harsh on the bike, just sounds like stuff is breaking as I go along. But just took it out yesterday after installing COPs and it's just too much damn fun to get rid of! So I think I want to do the brake upgrade to thr R1/R6 type. Being super-super extra lazy, can someone give me a parts list of what I'll need? I guess the first thing will be '86 and up 1st Gen lower forks, but what else? I guess de-linking would be worthwhile at the same time. So. Yeah.
Condor Posted March 5, 2016 #2 Posted March 5, 2016 Don't forget the MKII rotors. The OEM '83's are fatter than the MKII's. While in there you might as well toss in a set of Progressive springs. I did the conversion on my '83 and never delinked. Afterwards I didn't feel it was necessary,, Edit #2 ... The MKII forks will have electric anti-dives. I just stuffed the wire leads up under the fairing. With the Progressives they weren't needed.
zagger Posted March 5, 2016 #4 Posted March 5, 2016 Happy Spring everyone, Was thinking about getting rid of the Venture since moving to the mountains. Living 5 miles up a dirt and rock canyon road is pretty harsh on the bike, just sounds like stuff is breaking as I go along. But just took it out yesterday after installing COPs and it's just too much damn fun to get rid of! So I think I want to do the brake upgrade to thr R1/R6 type. Being super-super extra lazy, can someone give me a parts list of what I'll need? I guess the first thing will be '86 and up 1st Gen lower forks, but what else? I guess de-linking would be worthwhile at the same time. So. Yeah. If (like me) you like the normal concept of "foot = rear", "hand = front" then de-linking makes good sense. I did it when I first bought my '83 several years ago. I'm not so sure that the other various brake upgrades are worth the effort. De-linked brakes with the regular '83 stuff seem to give pretty typical brake performance (compared to other bikes I own). zag
flyday58 Posted March 6, 2016 Author #5 Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah, not sold on the delink yet. We'll see how it goes once I get forks, brakes etc.
Condor Posted March 6, 2016 #6 Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah, not sold on the delink yet. We'll see how it goes once I get forks, brakes etc. With the increase of the braking of the R1's you're gonna like what you get.
flyday58 Posted March 6, 2016 Author #7 Posted March 6, 2016 Another q, I put progressive springs in the '83 forks. Will they be a straight swap into the '86 & up units? Maybe different sized spacers? I only call it "83" cos that's what it started life as. So many upgrades, adds and facelifts not sure what to call it. Well past the Norma Jean stage; maybe I'll call it Marilyn...
flyday58 Posted March 6, 2016 Author #8 Posted March 6, 2016 To be clear: and not: Don't wanna confuse Marilyns.
cowpuc Posted March 6, 2016 #9 Posted March 6, 2016 That second pic gives me the Hyena shuttersss, glad you corrected that Flied Lice!! Glad to hear your keepin the scoot brother, best of the best in gettin sweet Marilyn to stop - hopefully she stops at my house some day :big-grin-emoticon:
Condor Posted March 6, 2016 #10 Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Another q, I put progressive springs in the '83 forks. Will they be a straight swap into the '86 & up units? Maybe different sized spacers? I only call it "83" cos that's what it started life as. So many upgrades, adds and facelifts not sure what to call it. Well past the Norma Jean stage; maybe I'll call it Marilyn... Yep, that's what I did... Same preload and all... Pull 'm out and put 'm in.... Marilyn is a great name. Hard to beat Norma Jean...... Edited March 6, 2016 by Condor
flyday58 Posted March 7, 2016 Author #11 Posted March 7, 2016 So. Forks. Discs. Blue dots. Braided lines. Do I need a different front master? And what about the rear caliper?
Condor Posted March 7, 2016 #12 Posted March 7, 2016 So. Forks. Discs. Blue dots. Braided lines. Do I need a different front master? And what about the rear caliper? Some members think it's a good idea, but I stayed with the OEM and didn't have any issues.... I also kept the original lines, but would have swapped them out if I had found something on eBay.... I did find braided lines...twice, but both sets didn't fit. Haven't got a clue what they will fit. The seller gave me a full refund and told me not to bother sending them back. Galfers just wanted too much. Leave the rear brake alone. No need to mess with it other than bleeding and re-padding. It's already a 4 piston.
flyday58 Posted March 7, 2016 Author #13 Posted March 7, 2016 Kay, thanks. Won't worry about the components but will look for braided lines. I know whatchamacallim used to have a kit. Skydoc maybe?
flyday58 Posted March 7, 2016 Author #14 Posted March 7, 2016 This what I need? http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-99-00-01-02-03-YAMAHA-YZF-R1-R6-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPER-CALIPERS-W-BOLT-PADS-/172117534997?fits=Make%3AYamaha&hash=item2813012915:g:LI0AAOSwzgRW08wS&vxp=mtr
Condor Posted March 7, 2016 #15 Posted March 7, 2016 This what I need? http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-99-00-01-02-03-YAMAHA-YZF-R1-R6-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPER-CALIPERS-W-BOLT-PADS-/172117534997?fits=Make%3AYamaha&hash=item2813012915:g:LI0AAOSwzgRW08wS&vxp=mtr YEP.....
flyday58 Posted March 7, 2016 Author #16 Posted March 7, 2016 Okay, jumped in w/both feet. Bought forks, rotors, and calipers. Will tear the front end down when I get home tmro or Woden's Day. Shame I just bought replacement '84 forks last fall because mine wouldn't stop leaking even with new seals all around. Nobody told me old motorcycles could take money to keep em going.
flyday58 Posted March 7, 2016 Author #17 Posted March 7, 2016 Oh, and do ANY of you OFs out there even know who the ugly Marilyn dude on the right in post #8 is? Yes, it's a dude.
flyday58 Posted March 9, 2016 Author #19 Posted March 9, 2016 Um....Marylyn Manson? Yes indeed. Bet you're not a card-carrying OF! I'm turning 58 in April, but I still listen to some of the harder/darker stuff out there. No Adele allowed on my iPhonePodPadMac
flyday58 Posted March 11, 2016 Author #20 Posted March 11, 2016 Blue dots are installed, as are the vented discs. Waiting on the forks to get here. Once it's all together do I need to be careful about launching over the handle bars, or dumping it in the street? Also, I'm thinking about installing ape hangers and a sissy bar, what y'all think?
cowpuc Posted March 11, 2016 #21 Posted March 11, 2016 Blue dots are installed, as are the vented discs. Waiting on the forks to get here. Once it's all together do I need to be careful about launching over the handle bars, or dumping it in the street? Also, I'm thinking about installing ape hangers and a sissy bar, what y'all think? [ATTACH=CONFIG]104444[/ATTACH] Looks like a pre-formed splat position to me Good one Flied Lice!!
flyday58 Posted March 11, 2016 Author #22 Posted March 11, 2016 I figured you would lead the pack, Half Pipe!!
syscrusher Posted March 12, 2016 #23 Posted March 12, 2016 Also, I'm thinking about installing ape hangers and a sissy bar, what y'all think? [ATTACH=CONFIG]104444[/ATTACH] Not sure about the ape hangers or sissy bar but the exhaust should definitely exit several feet above your head! Umm, I need a brake cable, about 40" over-length.......
psweber Posted May 4, 2016 #24 Posted May 4, 2016 ... Leave the rear brake alone. No need to mess with it other than bleeding and re-padding. It's already a 4 piston. I'm new on here and have not read everything nor am I home where my bike is to check (85VR) but I am sure my rear caliper is single piston?
Condor Posted May 5, 2016 #25 Posted May 5, 2016 You're absolutely right, but it's actually two. Nice catch. However, still don't mess with it. It's metered to only apply 30% of the braking power to begin with, and trying to improve braking by changing the rear to a later model 4 piston would be a waste of time and money..
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