Semi-retired Posted November 1, 2015 #1 Posted November 1, 2015 .....and I know that's next to impossible, Carl!!! Ha, ha! (Just wanted to make sure I didn't hurt your feelings........yes, I know THAT's a tough one, too. :-) I had a technical question come up with another buddy, and I think HIS answer is crazy. So, I asked Carl for HIS opinion. So, on this sunny Sunday afternoon (depending on where you are, of course) I'm curious to hear what the "masses" of Venture owners around the country have to say about it. The question is: when you're putting your new oil filter on the bike after changing the old black soup out of it.....after you screw the filter just down to where the rubber o-ring is touching the metal of the engine, how many more turns (or fractions of turns) do you tighten it? Another 1/4.....or a 1/2? Three quarters? Full turn? Two turns? (I pretty much agree with Carl, btw, but am looking to see what anyone else's "standard operating procedure" is!) Thanks, guys.
bongobobny Posted November 1, 2015 #2 Posted November 1, 2015 I just snug it down by hand. Remember to put a thin coat of oil on the gasket before you tighten the filter...
cowpuc Posted November 1, 2015 #3 Posted November 1, 2015 My 1st Gen doesnt have a spin on but if it did I would be doing the ol 1/2 to 3/4 past o-ring contact,, its always nice to not have to chisel the old filter off when you do the next change.. Me n Bongo gotta another thing in common,, I am a coater of the seal too Bob.. So,, anyone ever stick a spin on on with the o-ring missing? Its amazing how much oil an oil pump can push out in a very short time.. PS,, I can only hope this somehow offends Carl,,, I can also only hope that we are talking about the same Carl...
Du-Rron Posted November 1, 2015 #4 Posted November 1, 2015 I use a two-foot cheater and tighten it down till the threads screech. Cutting torch is required for removal.
cecdoo Posted November 1, 2015 #5 Posted November 1, 2015 I always wipe off the machined surface on the engine real good, check that everything is ok with the o ring, then a thin coat of oil on the o ring. i give it about 3/4 turn past contact, its probably alittle too tight but I never had one leak or fall off. When I was 14 I worked part time at a Sunoco station and the guy I worked with was a Tool and Die maker by trade, he taught me alot! and was a stickler about keeping things clean. He was a great mentor, Thanks Bob...
BlueSky Posted November 2, 2015 #6 Posted November 2, 2015 Every car or truck I've owned (dozens)that had a screw on filter I tightened the filter with my bare hand as tight as I could get it except for one car. It was a 1975 Honda Civic with the 1488cc CVCC engine. It would come loose if I only tightened it by hand. So, I had to use a filter wrench to tighten it some more. I never bothered to put oil on the rubber seal because the surface already has oil on it from loosening the last filter.
Yammer Dan Posted November 2, 2015 #7 Posted November 2, 2015 I just snug it down by hand. Remember to put a thin coat of oil on the gasket before you tighten the filter... :sign yeah that:
Yammer Dan Posted November 2, 2015 #8 Posted November 2, 2015 I just snug it down by hand. Remember to put a thin coat of oil on the gasket before you tighten the filter... :sign yeah that:
Yammer Dan Posted November 2, 2015 #9 Posted November 2, 2015 Dang!! I told ya I hit hard this time......
Semi-retired Posted November 2, 2015 Author #10 Posted November 2, 2015 I use a two-foot cheater and tighten it down till the threads screech. Cutting torch is required for removal. Well then.........you definitely get an "E" for.......enthusiasm!!
Marcarl Posted November 2, 2015 #11 Posted November 2, 2015 Now I'm offended,,, like really!!!! you come to me,, call me an expert and then post the same dang question here,,,, that's the good part, and once again proves that you were right in calling me an expert,,,,,,, hey, I'm the only one who got it right!!!!!! and that offends me,,,,,, why? because I had thought that after all my teaching someone,,, at least one person would have remembered what I have tried to teach all you guys over the years. Now it seems I have to go back in time and start all over new,,,, wonder if I can become 40 again??? WHAT A WASTE!!!!!!:bang head:
cowpuc Posted November 2, 2015 #12 Posted November 2, 2015 It only be-eth a waste if thou leteth this golden age of opportunity to enlighten us one more time slipeth thru those talented fingers of yours oh Master of The Spoken Dialog,, your Kingdom of inquisitive lopeth eared varmints waiteth for yet one more of your sage advice examples.. PS oh Dearest of Emperor's, your royal subjects looketh not to you just for direct instructions for proper oil filter o-ring engagement but the multitudes now eagerly awaiteth your holiest of advice on how to turneth back the hands of time:bowdown: . 40 soundeth pretty dog gone goodeth to many of your royal subjects..
Venturous Randy Posted November 2, 2015 #13 Posted November 2, 2015 On my 83, I have a stock filter, even though mine is chrome. I have not changed the O'ring in the last 120,000 miles. The reason for this is I found an O'ring that was part of a GM 350 turbo transmission that fits perfectly into the groove and is cross-sectionally square. When it is seated, it sticks up just a little above the filter housing and has never leaked, so I don't change it. When I tighten the bolt, I just get it good and snug. Randy
Yammer Dan Posted November 3, 2015 #14 Posted November 3, 2015 Wait a minute Carl I'll go with you!!!!
rbig1 Posted November 3, 2015 #15 Posted November 3, 2015 After I tighten the filter I put a nail in it so it cant come loose. Keeps the bike well lubed. Snug to a half a turn is plenty. You may want it back off...
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