Condor Fork brace on ebay?

[Great White]

Sure looks like one:

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1986-1993-Yamaha-XVZ1300-Venture-Royale-Front-Forks-Stabilizer-Bar-5173-/311408406544?hash=item4881633010&vxp=mtr

 

Might be someones chance to grab one cheap since they're no longer available.

 

I've got no interest in it since I've just bought a different fork brace.

 

[videoarizona]

I'm not sure why this part is needed. I know it MUST be since it was made. BUT, what handling problems does the 1st gen have that requires a better fork brace?

I crank my bike over pretty hard and don't feel any issues....?

[Great White]

I'm not sure why this part is needed. I know it MUST be since it was made. BUT, what handling problems does the 1st gen have that requires a better fork brace?

I crank my bike over pretty hard and don't feel any issues....?

 

I just got into what I call a chassis wobble on my last trip. Front wheel started it and the "flexy" chassis merrily jumped on board for a good ol' sashay.

 

Basically, emergency maneuver at highway speeds because some car decided he needed my lane more than i did on an outside turn. Just a low amplitude wobble that makes you mess your shorts.

 

If you're not ready for it or experienced enough to deal with it it can turn really bad, really fast. I almost ended up in a concrete divider. Only thing that saved me was having enough head to hold 'er on, force it over, accept the wobble and ride through it. My usual tap the rear brakes (as I would normally do to help settle the chassis) was useless since I couldn't trail the rear brake without getting front brake too (these linked brakes are soooooo G-O-N-E this winter!!!!)

 

Anything you can do to stiffen chassis or suspension moves/alleviates this tendency.

 

A hefty fork brace that doesn't flex helps prevent your forks from getting into a separate movement thing. Chuck in gyroscopic precession with the wheel tilting even the tiniest bit and you front wheel can get into a wobble.

 

Doesn't happen to everyone (depends on how you ride and what happens on that ride) but it's not something I want to ever get into again on this big bruiser. It's not like any of my sportbikes where you have to be jammin' pretty hard to get into it. I was just feet up on the highway pegs and doin' the speed limit....well, maybe 10-20 K over at best.

 

Edited July 24, 2015 by Great White

[videoarizona]

Hmmm...sounds exiting...NOT!

 

Thanks, GW.....!!

[Condor]

Sure looks like one:

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1986-1993-Yamaha-XVZ1300-Venture-Royale-Front-Forks-Stabilizer-Bar-5173-/311408406544?hash=item4881633010&vxp=mtr

 

Might be someones chance to grab one cheap since they're no longer available.

 

I've got no interest in it since I've just bought a different fork brace.

 

 

Don't think it's a Condor Brace, but someone elses. Notice how the corners are beveled on the Condor and rounded on the eBay brace. Also it looks like the bolt hole is a little closer to the edge on the eBay?? Attached is a pic of the Condor...

[Great White]

I think you're right.

 

Also, I noticed a stamp that I missed before on the underside of the brace in one of the pics:

 

http://pic.onestopoutlet.net/pictures/5173xzv34.jpg

 

Looks like "S.T.D Ent."

 

Still, it's a significant chunk and worth the 12 bucks it's starting at. As long as it fits properly that is....

[Condor]

Good eyes.. I would have missed that totally. It should do the job, and should clean up nicely...

[Venturous Randy]

That ebay brace looks just like the one that was on a set of MKII forks that I bought last year that I just put on my 83, along with R6 calipers and SS lines. The forks already had Progressive springs and I also put in all new head bearings and seals. Now, all I have to do is get all the plastic back on and get it going. I don't know how much better the brakes will be, but the lever and the foot brake now feel like stepping on a brick. No sponginess on either at all.

Randy

[Marcarl]

I just got into what I call a chassis wobble on my last trip. Front wheel started it and the "flexy" chassis merrily jumped on board for a good ol' sashay.

 

Basically, emergency maneuver at highway speeds because some car decided he needed my lane more than i did on an outside turn. Just a low amplitude wobble that makes you mess your shorts.

 

If you're not ready for it or experienced enough to deal with it it can turn really bad, really fast. I almost ended up in a concrete divider. Only thing that saved me was having enough head to hold 'er on, force it over, accept the wobble and ride through it. My usual tap the rear brakes (as I would normally do to help settle the chassis) was useless since I couldn't trail the rear brake without getting front brake too (these linked brakes are soooooo G-O-N-E this winter!!!!)

 

Anything you can do to stiffen chassis or suspension moves/alleviates this tendency.

 

A hefty fork brace that doesn't flex helps prevent your forks from getting into a separate movement thing. Chuck in gyroscopic precession with the wheel tilting even the tiniest bit and you front wheel can get into a wobble.

 

Doesn't happen to everyone (depends on how you ride and what happens on that ride) but it's not something I want to ever get into again on this big bruiser. It's not like any of my sportbikes where you have to be jammin' pretty hard to get into it. I was just feet up on the highway pegs and doin' the speed limit....well, maybe 10-20 K over at best.

 

If your 83 is that squirrelly you might want to check the frame for cracks. 83s have been know to crack their frames and that would make the frame have kind of a loose like feel under duress.

[Great White]

If your 83 is that squirrelly you might want to check the frame for cracks. 83s have been know to crack their frames and that would make the frame have kind of a loose like feel under duress.

 

Checked, it's good.

 

I had my feet up on the highway pegs at the time which also messed up the chassis dynamics.

 

I've felt it before on other bikes, it's wobble from a somewhat less than "rigid" design.

 

My RD350/400's were evil the same way at around 110-115 mph....full on tank slappers if you didn't handle it properly.

[KISA]

I bought such last year. It is very happy.

Edited July 27, 2015 by KISA

[Prairiehammer]

When it comes to Venture frame flex, one thing that many folks don't check is the fasteners on the removable lower frame section on the right side. Yamaha was pretty adamant about making sure those Allen head bolts were properly torqued. Apparently, (according to a Tech Bulletin) those fasteners were prone to loosening.