volmann Posted July 12, 2015 #1 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) On a 1987? Edited July 14, 2015 by volmann
djh3 Posted July 12, 2015 #2 Posted July 12, 2015 Need to ask in 1st gen, But Im going to guess thats just getting broke in.
cowpuc Posted July 12, 2015 #4 Posted July 12, 2015 Thinking it all depends on its care for those 77k Volman.. I would say if the scoot has been properly maintained and ridden frequently thru the years (oft times just a quick "loaded" question to the previous owner asking if has been ridden at regular intervals every summer will help you find that out fairly easily). Actually, if I were buying any vehicle, car/bike/boat or swamp buggy, I would rather have one with a few more miles on it that I KNEW had been used regularly than a super low miled garage queen that has sat for 10 or 15 years.. Down time, in my short lived experience with the stuff, has always proven to be a scoots worst enemy BUT, that has just been my experience.. As DJ mentioned, if properly maintained - 77k and the ol girl is just getting started...
PBJ Posted July 12, 2015 #5 Posted July 12, 2015 For a second GEN??? YES DEFINITELY! Now if it was a first gen it would still be a baby:stirthepot:
cowpuc Posted July 12, 2015 #6 Posted July 12, 2015 For a second GEN??? YES DEFINITELY! Now if it was a first gen it would still be a baby:stirthepot: Dont let em fool ya Volman,, those 2nd Gen's are just as fast, just as durable and just as down right pretty as our 1st Gens,,,,,,,, according to some folks opinions that is.. Its just that PB, myself and a few others around this joint hold a higher esteem of our own and each others opinions.. Even though we KNOW we are right, that still doesnt remove those 2nd critters right to hold their own opinions,, even though PB, myself and a few others know they are wrong... Hope that makes sense...
PBJ Posted July 12, 2015 #8 Posted July 12, 2015 Endubidubly! Cowpuc! and 87 is a first gen! or should we say the better, faster, prettier of the generations. Not that the second gens are bad...... they just aren't first Gen's that's all.
H2O Posted July 12, 2015 #10 Posted July 12, 2015 I have an 88' and an '06. I always drop into 4th when passing on the '06' but the 88' gets the job done by just cracking the throttle in 5th. Seems more like a difference in gearing maybe? The 88' has almost 67k on it and is still fun and powerful, but it has been taken care of and garage kept. I did have to have the carbs rebuilt this spring, but it really brought the engine back to life. Try to find any maintenance/repair invoices or maybe have an experienced 1st gen owner check it out with you. Also, if you do end up purchasing the bike, do yourself a HUGE favor and join Venture Riders. You'll be astonished at the knowledge level and support! Good luck!
volmann Posted July 12, 2015 Author #11 Posted July 12, 2015 i have found a 86 with 32 k and this 87 with 77k...both look good the 87 a tad better the 87 runs great the 86 runs but wont idle unless have choke is on and has very slight miss...it sat 10 months both are same price but the 86 has 40k less miles
H2O Posted July 12, 2015 #12 Posted July 12, 2015 I let my '88 sit last summer. Put less than 25 miles on it over a 12 month period and that's when the trouble started in the fuel lines and carbs. I put Yamaha parts in the carb rebuild and it was costly, but it starts as easy as my '06 with 10k on it and runs smooth as silk at idle or on the road. Tough decision...........maybe you should buy both of them!
volmann Posted July 12, 2015 Author #13 Posted July 12, 2015 well the 87 has 73k on it...he just rode to beach no problems etc...i dont want carbs to fix
VanRiver Posted July 12, 2015 #14 Posted July 12, 2015 HI @volmann, That is a hard question....I personally would like the machine with the lower miles, as the idle issue could probably be fixed with some minor carb cleaning, running a couple of tanks of fresh gas and Seafoam through her, and syncing the carbs......but this is all stuff I would do even on the 87 if I bought it. But the other factor is the plastic, color, and general appearance of the bike.......I like to ride pretty bikes, not just ones that are mechanically sound....And replacing missing or damaged plastic parts on these Ventures can get pretty expensive. I personally own both Venture Royale colours (Black and Brown) models from 1986 and think they are very pretty, therefore I'm kind of biased. Also simple things like seat condition, operational air ride system, tires, brakes should also come into play in your decision too as though those are all fixable, they can add up to additional $$. So follow you heart when choosing the bike, don't be scared away from turnings some wrenches as that is what will make you feel more confident and become closer friends with your bike. OR the real solution to the problem is to buy both, then you can't go wrong....that is what I do!
Great White Posted July 12, 2015 #15 Posted July 12, 2015 Hard to say with just mileage to base advise on. Depends on how the bike was taken care of. 86+ don't have the second year issues. Really, after late 85 it was fixed, but you need build numbers to know if looking at an 85.
volmann Posted July 13, 2015 Author #16 Posted July 13, 2015 HI @volmann, That is a hard question....I personally would like the machine with the lower miles, as the idle issue could probably be fixed with some minor carb cleaning, running a couple of tanks of fresh gas and Seafoam through her, and syncing the carbs......but this is all stuff I would do even on the 87 if I bought it. But the other factor is the plastic, color, and general appearance of the bike.......I like to ride pretty bikes, not just ones that are mechanically sound....And replacing missing or damaged plastic parts on these Ventures can get pretty expensive. I personally own both Venture Royale colours (Black and Brown) models from 1986 and think they are very pretty, therefore I'm kind of biased. Also simple things like seat condition, operational air ride system, tires, brakes should also come into play in your decision too as though those are all fixable, they can add up to additional $$. So follow you heart when choosing the bike, don't be scared away from turnings some wrenches as that is what will make you feel more confident and become closer friends with your bike. OR the real solution to the problem is to buy both, then you can't go wrong....that is what I do! Well i went looked at 86 again, its ""just got 18K miles"" on it not 32K Fires right up but wont idle without half choke, u can turn choke off and hold throttle at 900 0r 1000 rpm and it will idle smooth with a very very very slight miss It runs fine at all speeds above idle, everything works has cover and owners manual here is the 86 with 18k
Flyinfool Posted July 13, 2015 #17 Posted July 13, 2015 The idle is supposed to be 1000, some try to turn it way down trying to make it sound like a Harley.
VanRiver Posted July 13, 2015 #18 Posted July 13, 2015 She looks real pretty!!!! Thanks for sending pictures....if your have any more that is even more helpful. I personally love the 1986 brown color scheme...The idle issue should be easily cleared up with some minor carb cleaning and Seafoam. Sorry to ask...but are you sure it is 18,000 original miles and not 118,000 miles instead? It is very rare to find a 30 year old highway cruiser that has such low milage. Also, speedometers have a tendency to wear out and get replaced on these bike and therefore don't always tell the truth (and sellers sometimes don't tell the truth either). I would check the brake rotors...if they have a large lip or ridge outside of where the brake pad touches due to ware then it might be a 118,000 machine...they should be smooth like a brand new bike if it only has 18,000 on her.
Beach Bum Posted July 13, 2015 #19 Posted July 13, 2015 How much are these bike anyways? I always go for lower miles because they're typically easier to sell. EVERYONE looking at a higher mileage bike is thinking exactly the same thing you are. I was kind of meh about buying my 06 with 33K miles on it but after doing some research it should be fine for what I paid for it.
volmann Posted July 13, 2015 Author #20 Posted July 13, 2015 yes im sure its 18k..the guy is selling for his neighbor that moved down from ohio ......it was rode down from ohio 7 months ago...the old man got sick and didn't ride it. he is in the VA hospital now...said i could go there and speak with him...and its never sat outside
VanRiver Posted July 13, 2015 #21 Posted July 13, 2015 yes im sure its 18k..the guy is selling for his neighbor that moved down from ohio ......it was rode down from ohio 7 months ago...the old man got sick and didn't ride it. he is in the VA hospital now...said i could go there and speak with him...and its never sat outside Sounds like it is time to stop asking questions and time to pull the trigger and buy the bike before someone beats you to it! Also pay the $12 to become a full member here (best investment you will ever make)!
volmann Posted July 13, 2015 Author #22 Posted July 13, 2015 Im afraid I will have to spend 600.00 on carbs. B12 in tank and new plugs may work if I ride it
Great White Posted July 13, 2015 #23 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Im afraid I will have to spend 600.00 on carbs. B12 in tank and new plugs may work if I ride it You will have some expense with any used bike. They all need work somewhere. Doing carbs is not a hard job. Can be done in a Saturday afternoon of lazy work. And it's cheap if you do it yourself.nassuming the parts are all still good it just the cost of cleaning solutions. or, you can do the "sea foam shotgun/ peashooter thing" which is very popular. dont pass up a good deal on a decent bike just because it has gummed up/ dirty carbs. Very few used bikes are NOT going to have gummed up/ dirty carbs. It's just part of the used bike game.... Edited July 13, 2015 by Great White Spellcheck got me again
volmann Posted July 13, 2015 Author #24 Posted July 13, 2015 or, you can do the "sea foam shotgun/ peashooter thing" which is very popular. .... How is that done
Great White Posted July 13, 2015 #25 Posted July 13, 2015 How is that done Google "seafoam" and "shotgun". popular with the vmax guys....
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