camos Posted June 26, 2015 #1 Posted June 26, 2015 Is there such a thing as an adapter cable that goes from 5 pin to 3.5 mm stereo plug? I've read a bunch of threads that might have been related but since hardly anyone listed what year/model of bike they have I am more confused than before I started. The purpose of the adapter is to connect the bike's audio to a set of relatively cheap headphones. I have the Sena SMH 10 which is very nice but when I am working the microphone is an unnecessary PITA so I would like to get rid of it. So... is there such a cable adapter and if so where can it be purchased?
utadventure Posted June 26, 2015 #2 Posted June 26, 2015 Check out Edsets, they make a great product! http://www.edsets.com/universal_adapter.php
camos Posted June 26, 2015 Author #3 Posted June 26, 2015 Check out Edsets, they make a great product! http://www.edsets.com/universal_adapter.phpHoly smokes!!! $65!!! I'm already suffering from MC insurance pain, $1029 and that is after a 40% safe driving discount. July 2 I'll be coming down with a serious case of municipal tax pain for my over valued house, $3500 and that is after my senior discount. I need to make twice as much as I do just to break even. Might have to reconsider how much bother the mic boom is worth. Sorry for the whining. Thanks Utah. Looks like just what I was asking for. Sigh....
videoarizona Posted June 26, 2015 #4 Posted June 26, 2015 That's what I have...Edsets adapter. Works fine. Also allows the other direction. You can add an MP3 player or your phone output to the adapter and it will play through the system. Since I have headphones in my helmet, I have several choices. Plug in the earbuds for noise reduction and better audio...or use the helmet speakers and plug in an mp3 to listen to my own mix of tunes. You can also make your own adapter...with a stereo mini female plug, some small wire (4 conductor), heat shrink tubing and a little ingenuity. There are tons of the 5 pin plugs...male and female out there...since this type of plug goes way back to the old style computer keyboards.... Lots of choices... david
djh3 Posted June 26, 2015 #5 Posted June 26, 2015 Holy smokes!!! $65!!! I'm already suffering from MC insurance pain, $1029 and that is after a 40% safe driving discount. July 2 I'll be coming down with a serious case of municipal tax pain for my over valued house, $3500 and that is after my senior discount. I need to make twice as much as I do just to break even. Might have to reconsider how much bother the mic boom is worth. Sorry for the whining. Thanks Utah. Looks like just what I was asking for. Sigh.... Yea I thought that was a bit high. I have most of the parts to build up a 5 pin to 3.5mm ear bud adapter if you want one. I would just need to figure up some costs.
utadventure Posted June 26, 2015 #6 Posted June 26, 2015 If you already have a headset for your helmet and the mic boom is the only concern, many can be unplugged and removed. Or, as DJH3 says, with a 3.5mm jack and an old AT computer extension cord you can make one pretty inexpensively.
Great White Posted June 26, 2015 #7 Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Holy smokes!!! $65!!! I'm already suffering from MC insurance pain, $1029 and that is after a 40% safe driving discount. July 2 I'll be coming down with a serious case of municipal tax pain for my over valued house, $3500 and that is after my senior discount. I need to make twice as much as I do just to break even. Might have to reconsider how much bother the mic boom is worth. Sorry for the whining. Thanks Utah. Looks like just what I was asking for. Sigh.... Ah yes, I remember ICBC. Couldn't stand that "effin" gov't ins racket. It was teh same in every province I lived in that had it: overpriced and no choice. Newfoundland was the only place where private ins wanted as much as gov't. This year I paid $260 for 12 months on my Venture and my FJ12 here in NS. That's 260 for BOTH bikes. Not trying to brag, just can't stand gov't ins schemes. Not sure what you need to get rid of the boom mic for, but Sena also offers a clamp kit with a wired mic. The boom and a small stick on mic can be disconnected from the clamp part. They're intended more for full face installations. I have one in my modular helmet. Only problem is they're also going to run you around 65-70 bucks... Edited June 26, 2015 by Great White
Freebird Posted June 26, 2015 #8 Posted June 26, 2015 You can find them on Ebay. Here is one example but I've seen others without the cable. This is for a Goldwing but I think it's the same as the Venture. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Gold-Wing-Headphone-Adapter-5-pin-GOLD-DIN-to-3-5mm-GOLD-Jack-NEW-/381279499369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c6077469
djh3 Posted June 27, 2015 #9 Posted June 27, 2015 WOW I dunno how he can make them and ship for that.
camos Posted June 27, 2015 Author #10 Posted June 27, 2015 You can also make your own adapter...with a stereo mini female plug, some small wire (4 conductor), heat shrink tubing and a little ingenuity. There are tons of the 5 pin plugs...male and female out there...since this type of plug goes way back to the old style computer keyboards.... Lots of choices... davidI remember reading that on here quite a while ago. Thanks for the reminder. I have several keyboard cables in my junk box. With a little luck one of them might fit. Might even have a 3.5 mm stereo plug in the junk box too. So 4 wires? Does that mean 2 wires for each side of the male stereo plug? Have never pulled one apart before.
camos Posted June 27, 2015 Author #11 Posted June 27, 2015 Ah yes, I remember ICBC. Couldn't stand that "effin" gov't ins racket. It was teh same in every province I lived in that had it: overpriced and no choice. Newfoundland was the only place where private ins wanted as much as gov't. This year I paid $260 for 12 months on my Venture and my FJ12 here in NS. That's 260 for BOTH bikes. Not trying to brag, just can't stand gov't ins schemes.Yeah, ICBC is pure evil. Govmints just want to suck the people dry. To add insult to injury, that $grand is only for basic insurance. Not sure what you need to get rid of the boom mic for, but Sena also offers a clamp kit with a wired mic. The boom and a small stick on mic can be disconnected from the clamp part. They're intended more for full face installations. I have one in my modular helmet. Only problem is they're also going to run you around 65-70 bucks...As previously mentioned in other threads, I work all day in my modular helmet which entails a lot of opening and closing of the chin piece. That creates a lot of wear and tear on the mic boom not to mention the windsock. When I first got it I wore the SMH-10 for about a week and the windsock was trashed and plastic transition support piece at the inside end of the boom broke. Figured if I continued to use it every day the boom would probably break internally. Then there is the PITA factor with the boom always getting in the way and having to be moved this way or that. Figured it might be a better option to just replace the SMH-10 with a set of bluetooth headphones so I can listed to some tunes.
camos Posted June 27, 2015 Author #12 Posted June 27, 2015 You can find them on Ebay. Here is one example but I've seen others without the cable. This is for a Goldwing but I think it's the same as the Venture. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Gold-Wing-Headphone-Adapter-5-pin-GOLD-DIN-to-3-5mm-GOLD-Jack-NEW-/381279499369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c6077469That will be about US$20 landed in Canada which is about CA$25. Still, a good option if I fail at making one from the junk in my box. Thanks for the suggestion.
videoarizona Posted June 27, 2015 #13 Posted June 27, 2015 Clive, Normally you have a left and right hot wire and a left and right ground wire. But sometimes you can combine the grounds if the amplifier allows it. If the amp has separate grounds, then keep the connections that way. Combining them in those circumstances can cause you to lose stereo separation on some amps....and on others the amps are not happy campers. On the VR, the 5 pin connection is also wired for microphone. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?499-Headset-Pin-Out-Diagram To make a minijack output.....just tie into the left, right and ground wires. You will have to google or search this site for the pin outs on the minijack...I've long forgot that tidbit of knowledge! The rest of that diagram is self-explanatory and not needed for adding a mini stereo jack to system....but fun to read. Anyway, it's an easy thing to do. Although I simply ordered the edset adapter. I'm tired of soldering! david
camos Posted June 27, 2015 Author #14 Posted June 27, 2015 Thanks David, First I'll see if I do have a keyboard cable that will fit the VR HS cable. If so then the link you gave will probably be a good start otherwise $25 is not such a terrible price. It's easy enough to spend almost that much driving around shopping for parts.
Great White Posted June 27, 2015 #15 Posted June 27, 2015 Yeah, ICBC is pure evil. Govmints just want to suck the people dry. To add insult to injury, that $grand is only for basic insurance. As previously mentioned in other threads, I work all day in my modular helmet which entails a lot of opening and closing of the chin piece. That creates a lot of wear and tear on the mic boom not to mention the windsock. When I first got it I wore the SMH-10 for about a week and the windsock was trashed and plastic transition support piece at the inside end of the boom broke. Figured if I continued to use it every day the boom would probably break internally. Then there is the PITA factor with the boom always getting in the way and having to be moved this way or that. Figured it might be a better option to just replace the SMH-10 with a set of bluetooth headphones so I can listed to some tunes. Ah, I see. I would suggest you look at the sena clamp kit that has the wired mic: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SENA-SMH10-Replacement-Helmet-Clamp-Kit-w-Attachable-Wired-Boom-Mic-/271905021577?hash=item3f4ecd5e89&vxp=mtr I bought mine from that vendor and it ended up around 65 bucks iirc. The reasons you give are pretty much exactly why I swapped mine out for the wired mic. I have !multiple security checks I have to pass through at work and I have to open and close my modular helmet repeatedly. The wired mic is stuck to the chin guard and goes up and down with it with no troubles. The wiring is run under the helmet padding. Was well worth it for me. You'd have to decide if it fits your use though. Only problem is it's going to put a $65-odd hole in your wallet which is over your budget.
utadventure Posted June 27, 2015 #16 Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Yamaha only uses three wires for the speakers. If I remember correctly (there is a wiring diagham on the site) plug 3 is LF, 2 is GND, and 5 is RT on the 5-pin DIN plug. Edited June 27, 2015 by utadventure
camos Posted June 28, 2015 Author #17 Posted June 28, 2015 Ah, I see. I would suggest you look at the sena clamp kit that has the wired mic: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SENA-SMH10-Replacement-Helmet-Clamp-Kit-w-Attachable-Wired-Boom-Mic-/271905021577?hash=item3f4ecd5e89&vxp=mtr I bought mine from that vendor and it ended up around 65 bucks iirc. From the pic it looks like there are two mic's that are interchangeable or that could also be removed when they are not wanted. I didn't actually look into that kit but now that you made me, it might just be the best solution. Thanks GW, you are a fountain of information.
camos Posted June 28, 2015 Author #18 Posted June 28, 2015 Yamaha only uses three wires for the speakers. If I remember correctly (there is a wiring diagham on the site) plug 3 is LF, 2 is GND, and 5 is RT on the 5-pin DIN plug. [ATTACH=CONFIG]100237[/ATTACH]Had a look in the junk box in the house and didn't find a keyboard cable but could be one in the junk box in the shed. Those things are really old. Did find a conversion adapter to a PS2 port though. Tested it and seems to fit into the holes but is too fat to go all the way in but a bit of a trim should make it work. I'll see if I can open it up without damaging the wires. Might only have to buy a 3.5 mm stereo plug. If I don't have to buy an adapter I just might be able to afford that Sena mic base. Whoo-Hoo!!! Things are looking up.
Great White Posted June 28, 2015 #19 Posted June 28, 2015 From the pic it looks like there are two mic's that are interchangeable or that could also be removed when they are not wanted. I didn't actually look into that kit but now that you made me, it might just be the best solution. Thanks GW, you are a fountain of information. Yep, the kit comes with two mics, both are "stick on" and a connector plug. It also has a headphone jack in the back if you would rather go that way. I don't think the plug is made for regular connect disconnect, but you could use it that way if you wanted. Like I mentioned, I just ran the wiring through my modular helmets and the stock on mic is super small and low profile. The boom mic used to bug me, but I don't even know the small one is there...
vzuden Posted June 29, 2015 #20 Posted June 29, 2015 For anyone wanting to get away from the boom mic or any mic, you could switch to the Uclear brand communicators. Bought a set this winter and just installed and it works great. The mic pickups are built into the speakers
camos Posted August 19, 2015 Author #21 Posted August 19, 2015 I think I have finally sorted this project out. First I failed at making my own 5 pin to 3.5 mm RCA adapter from the parts at hand. The 3.5 mm plug had wires so small and all 3 wires were cast into the insulation so I could not solder them to anything. Figured if I bought a better quality plug with separate wires it would probably cost as much or more than the pre-made adapter Freebird suggested. So went ahead with this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Gold-Wing-Headphone-Adapter-5-pin-GOLD-DIN-to-3-5mm-GOLD-Jack-NEW/161779181946?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33097%26meid%3Dd4fd22ab064f432eb39f0445caa2e8ac%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D161750709197 After getting it I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Pin-MIDI-DIN-Plug-to-3-5-3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-1-5m-5ft/190739600462?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33097%26meid%3Dd4fd22ab064f432eb39f0445caa2e8ac%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D161750709197 which was a lot cheaper and might have done the job just fine. Oh well.... I bought one of these Bluetooth transmitters: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MA8JZ1A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 It has good sound and will pair with two headsets. The first one I got died after a few days so returned it for another which was received two days ago. Only time will tell if the quality is adequate or not but when it works it does a really good job of connecting the VR stereo wirelessly to my Sena SMH10 headsets. The transmitter can be connected to any ancient audio source that has a 3.5mm output jack like the iPod Classic I have or whatever. The transmitter will not work with the CB though. I'm very happy with the setup even though it took a ridiculously long time to accomplish and, of course, I'm hoping the first transmitter that broke was not typical of the quality of the device. Regarding installation, it was very simple. Ran the headset cable with the 5 pin adapter under the top cover back to the gas cap compartment and hung the 3.5mm jack over the rubber boot so it can be accessed easily by opening the cover. There might be better options but for now I have not come up with any.
syscrusher Posted August 21, 2015 #22 Posted August 21, 2015 I bought this from Amazon in the US. It works very well. Maybe they have one for Canadians too? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ELHGHXC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 After looking at mine to verify that it should work I realized that it would be easy to make from a 5 pin male DIN plug and a 3.5mm headphone extension cable. It's just three connections to solder. Here's the best document available for headset connections: http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?499-Headset-Pin-Out-Diagram
camos Posted August 22, 2015 Author #23 Posted August 22, 2015 I bought this from Amazon in the US. It works very well. Maybe they have one for Canadians too? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ELHGHXC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 I bought exactly the same thing on (US) eBay.com for the same price as the one you listed. Checked on amazon.ca and they have the one you have from the same company listed for $65 - $82 plus $10 shipping. Ain't we special. After looking at mine to verify that it should work I realized that it would be easy to make from a 5 pin male DIN plug and a 3.5mm headphone extension cable. It's just three connections to solder. Here's the best document available for headset connections: http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?499-Headset-Pin-Out-Diagram Before I decided to purchase the pre-made adapter, I did the same with a spare 5 pin DIN and 3.5 mm jack I already had. Cut the 3.5 mm jack cable and found the wires were really thin and cast into the insulation. Figured I would never be able to solder and keep the wires separated. Buying a better grade of 3.5 mm jack probably would have gotten around that but figured by then just the parts would have cost the same or more than buying the completed adapter. Even though it is a bit of a hack to have the BT transmitter sitting under the fuel door , it should stay dry enough in there. Anyway, after three days of use I'm really pleased with the setup. Will eventually sort out a way to charge the transmitter on the bike but it still needs a handy access to turn it on.
djh3 Posted August 24, 2015 #24 Posted August 24, 2015 I have parts on hand, and I cant build it and ship it for what that 2nd ebay listing cost. Like 3.89 or something. Just in parts I have about 4 bucks.
LukeMacPU Posted November 19, 2015 #25 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) I've not had a chance to play with my radio/intercom system at all yet. Never had a bike with intercom before. My only interest is getting my phone audio out to play through the stereo speakers if possible. I use GPS and music pretty regularly. I made a quick read through this thread so please forgive me if I missed it. Would this plug directly into my phone/mp3/GPS and play through the speakers if I put it on intercom? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bang-Olufsen-Gold-5-Pin-DIN-to-Gold-3-5mm-Braided-cable-iPod-MP3-3ft-NEW/381460350286?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34226%26meid%3Df2f7d90c96b842a2a6f7b6fb660782b9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D10%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D381279499369 I think I've misunderstood how the intercom is supposed to work. Feeding my phone audio into the intercom would only provide output to a headset on the other end of the intercom (I think). My goal of getting audio from device with 3.5mm out to speakers wouldn't work this way. I'm going to try a Bluetooth to FM transmitter and see how that works. Edited November 20, 2015 by LukeMacPU
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