Godlover Posted May 7, 2015 #1 Posted May 7, 2015 I've been trying to talk a dealer into selling me three First Generation Ventures he's had for awhile. They haven't been started for awhile but ran when they took them on trade. They are all Royale models - two 86 and one 90. All have over 60000 miles. The pictures look really good - and the lowest they would go is $3000. I offered them $2000 - then $2500 and they won't budge. I am waiting to see if a few days makes a difference. If I give them 3000 - I'll have another $500 in taxes and going after them. In your opinion - what might they be worth?
Prairiehammer Posted May 7, 2015 #2 Posted May 7, 2015 Are you saying that the dealer will take $3000 for all three ($1000 per bike)? Or wants $3000 for each?
1billy21 Posted May 7, 2015 #3 Posted May 7, 2015 these bike with that many mile's are worth about 500.00 each and useally bike shops won't part out
Prairiehammer Posted May 7, 2015 #4 Posted May 7, 2015 these bike with that many mile's are worth about 500.00 each and useally bike shops won't part out I respectfully disagree. Firstly, 60,000 miles is nothing for these Ventures. Secondly, $500 is what a non running, stripped Venture is worth. Depending on condition and completeness, I would estimate the 1986's to be worth at least $2500 and the 1990 about $3000. Again, it depends on condition, but the stated mileage is not a factor.
Patch Posted May 7, 2015 #5 Posted May 7, 2015 If you were planning on starting a parts supply, the inventory would have to be at a low enough upfront cost to handle and cover your time and storage. If you were thinking of repairing and flipping them, I don't think you'll see much if any return dollar value? What are your thought's in making the purchase?
Godlover Posted May 8, 2015 Author #6 Posted May 8, 2015 These bikes ran when they were traded in. I think it wouldn't take a whole lot - maybe carb work at the most to get them back on the road. They are too good to part out. I think there is money to be made - the problem is it is two hours away and all I've seen is pictures. They will take 3000 for all three - I'll have 3500 in them by the time I get them home.
Flyinfool Posted May 8, 2015 #7 Posted May 8, 2015 Ya know standing in the showroom with a stack of 100 bills and a trailer on the back of your vehicle may carry a lot more bargaining power than someone on the phone or the internet that is 100s of miles away.
Yammer Dan Posted May 8, 2015 #8 Posted May 8, 2015 What they are worth depends on how they were maintained. And like Jeff said being there with cash in hand might do the trick but what would it cost you to try this??
skydoc_17 Posted May 10, 2015 #9 Posted May 10, 2015 The last two First Gens. I purchased to "part out", (an 86'VR and an 87'VR respectively) netted me over $4000.00 each in parts. I paid $600. for the 86' and $400. for the 87'. If any of these three bikes were running, and looked decent, they would fetch between $1500. and $2500. all day long this time of the year with the 1990 VR maybe reaching $3000. if the fairing was not busted up. I would "camp out" in front of the dealership with a trailer and $3000. cash in my pocket, but not budge off of $2500. until 1 hour before closing time. I would be LOUD, and pester every customer that came thru the doors of the dealership until they saw it my way. But that's just me. Even at $3K you could end up with a free bike out of this deal. Earl
Godlover Posted May 10, 2015 Author #10 Posted May 10, 2015 I do plan to step up and make the deal if I can. I will let you know how things work out! Thanks for the advice!
kinsmd69 Posted May 10, 2015 #11 Posted May 10, 2015 IF a dealer ship has them, they have nothing into the bikes. Trade take ins are figured in to sell of a vehicle. Hold out for atleast $2,500 , or better yet, wait out. Go back 30 days and offer them your original $2k. They need the space and inventory moved, more than you need to buy them. If they were going to get them running and do something with them, why haven't they by now??
Grandpagak Posted May 10, 2015 #12 Posted May 10, 2015 around here , i havent found any for less than $1300, and that wasn't anything to rite home about.. Half way decent one runs about $1800 to $3200..
syscrusher Posted May 12, 2015 #13 Posted May 12, 2015 Why don't you post us some pics here so we can see if we should encourage you further?
flyday58 Posted May 13, 2015 #17 Posted May 13, 2015 I would have to at least hear them turn over if they claim they ran when they got them. Unless they've had them for a bunch of years they should at least fire off with a good battery and fresh petrol, even if they run ragged. Doesn't mean I wouldn't buy them anyway. Is it a package deal, all or none?
Silverado6x6 Posted May 13, 2015 #18 Posted May 13, 2015 Ventures are getting pretty rare here in Alaska, i think i own them all! Just picked up a nice running 86 sunday, plus my 89, the 85 and an 83. Got this 86 in a trade he gave me $500 and the Venture Royale for a pristine 95 Virago 750. Cannot post pics from my tablet, sorry, been posting it at my Goldwing forums though.
VanRiver Posted May 13, 2015 #19 Posted May 13, 2015 #Silverado6x6 is the Alaska Venture Hoarder.......I'm mean collector! I too have a problem with motorcycle hoarding. Why have 1 Bike when you can have 15 instead?....my wife says I have a "problem" and need to get "help"....I believe it is a talent and one of my many endearing qualities! Thanks Silverado for saving a dieing breed of excellent motorcycles, and #Godlover getting 3 Ventures right off the bat is a great way to start a collection....or illness (according to my wife)! Ventures are getting pretty rare here in Alaska, i think i own them all! Just picked up a nice running 86 sunday, plus my 89, the 85 and an 83. Got this 86 in a trade he gave me $500 and the Venture Royale for a pristine 95 Virago 750. Cannot post pics from my tablet, sorry, been posting it at my Goldwing forums though.
Silverado6x6 Posted May 14, 2015 #20 Posted May 14, 2015 I have 18! Normally i would have a list of all my bikes in the signature, its been several years since i posted here and i have been collecting Goldwings and Ventures. Plus i have two 85 Vmax's. I ride one a lot and i post at the Vmax Forums, they really want any 1300 v4 to add a Vboost to, its a very popular modded engine and i was thinking of doing a Vmax/Venture hybrid. Basically a touring Vmax with a fairing, radio etc. I would dearly love to get a 3 bike deal like this, lots and lots of Goldwings, so few Ventures and i doubt Yamaha will ever bring it back.
Godlover Posted May 16, 2015 Author #21 Posted May 16, 2015 Okay gang - something came up and i spent my money on an 06 Lincoln Mark LT pickup. If any of you are interested you can call the Harley dealer in Waukon, Iowa - they have them. I've been wanting a nice truck for years and when this Lincoln 4X4 showed up on Craigslist for 10,000 I jumped on it... only has 112,000 miles too...Loaded!!!
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