ChiefGunner Posted May 24, 2018 #126 Posted May 24, 2018 cowpuc said: XV1100SE said: Speedo isn't a good comparison. 2nd (and 1st?) Gen speedo's are off by 8%. 60mph isn't a tru 60mph on a 2nd Gen. Speed on a GPS would be more accurate.[/QUOT That is very true,, my R1's speedo shows 172 mph tached out in 5th gear (still havent had a chance to see if it will bounce the rev limiter in 6th) and its true speed there on GPS is 176.. I still think a videoed comparison would give us all a more scientific basis for debate than I say/you say does though.. I could probably lend one of you guys (Chief,,, or American,,, you both sound like your REALLY good riders and being owers of the scoots,, should give us reliable results) my little go-pro camera to do the comparison but fact is,, those little camera's are fairly inexpensive now.. Personally,, other than on my R1 (its only a tiny little 1000cc but it really is a little harder to hang onto when ya wick it up - at least for someone of my inexperience), I just use my little $30 digital camera but if you drop those like I have a couple times,, even they can get pricey.. Thinking about this,,, maybe what we should do is all meet in Ohio at Don's for MD and do the comparions in real life!!!! Now THAT would be fun and I KNOW many many folks would LOVE to see your new scoots and meet you guys = myself included!!!!! Thanks for the invite. I’d love to but I’m still not retired and trying to grow a business. I just took 5 days off 2 weeks ago for a trip to Pennsylvania and we’re trying to prepare for a 10 day trip through motorcycle roads in North Carolina, Tennessee & Kentucky in July. Yes, we are doing Skyway, Blue Ridge, Cherohola Hwy & Dragons Tail.
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #127 Posted May 25, 2018 This is sounding more and more like a V-8 versus V-6 debate... Or maybe 6 cylinder diesel vs V-10 titan... Just MHO Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #128 Posted May 25, 2018 I will ad today in stop and go traffic I was sweating like a pig on a hot July day and mind you I was on a WATER COOLED V-4 1200CC... It was 81°F and sunny. Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
cowpuc Posted May 25, 2018 #129 Posted May 25, 2018 snyper316 said: I will ad today in stop and go traffic I was sweating like a pig on a hot July day and mind you I was on a WATER COOLED V-4 1200CC... It was 81°F and sunny. Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face. eeeeeeeuuuuueeeeeepeeeeeeuuuueeeeeee,, even your word picture here has a strange odor to it Snype!!!! I was just texting with Vaz who is on his way out from Zona and is in Misery (Missouri) in the humidy... Said he needed to grab a shower.. Told em I would let em in on a little trade secret = skip the showers, let the bug spray cake up on you and BINGO - not only will the bugs leave you completely alone but so will the people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dancefool:
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #130 Posted May 25, 2018 One more thing today no wind blowing and I felt the heat of the motor on both legs... I love our V-4s I also love the rumble of a Vtwin... I get ppl are taken back because the engine we know and love is not on the new bike. So what, they both have power we know and love just at different rpms is all. After spending a lot of time on different bikes and on pj your going to have engine heat your gonna experience different things! Do we need the same ol same ol. People get bored with same thing after awhile. Yamaha seen where the market was. People wanted a new touring bike with a twist from a VTWIN only time will tell how long the Twin will hold up but have heard between 100,000 to just over 200,000 it really depends who is behind the controls, and how well its taken care of. Just my opinion I still want to ride one but can careless about heat and rpms! I want to crack the throttle and feel the power. It may not pop a wheelie if I wanted that I go play on a smaller bike! Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #131 Posted May 25, 2018 cowpuc said: eeeeeeeuuuuueeeeeepeeeeeeuuuueeeeeee,, even your word picture here has a strange odor to it Snype!!!! I was just texting with Vaz who is on his way out from Zona and is in Misery (Missouri) in the humidy... Said he needed to grab a shower.. Told em I would let em in on a little trade secret = skip the showers, let the bug spray cake up on you and BINGO - not only will the bugs leave you completely alone but so will the people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dancefool:[emoji23]Yeah well I took shower this morning my 72 hrs was up and boy was I glad. Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
American Posted May 25, 2018 #132 Posted May 25, 2018 snyper316 said: I will ad today in stop and go traffic I was sweating like a pig on a hot July day and mind you I was on a WATER COOLED V-4 1200CC... It was 81°F and sunny. Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face. We are getting a ton of rain but this morning it was not raining so the wife and I went for a ride, it was 84 degrees humid but not hot and engine heat was not a problem, do you feel some heat? Sure, you have 113 CI sitting right in front of you between your legs but it was not enough to make you want to get off the bike.
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #133 Posted May 25, 2018 American said: We are getting a ton of rain but this morning it was not raining so the wife and I went for a ride, it was 84 degrees humid but not hot and engine heat was not a problem, do you feel some heat? Sure, you have 113 CI sitting right in front of you between your legs but it was not enough to make you want to get off the bike. My bike is the 83 Venture I am just saying your gonna have heat on anything and our V-4s are no exception to this rule.. I believe its a 74CI, Engine heat isn't a problem but to add to hot pavement and the engine heat rising...
cowpuc Posted May 25, 2018 #134 Posted May 25, 2018 snyper316 said: My bike is the 83 Venture I am just saying your gonna have heat on anything and our V-4s are no exception to this rule.. I believe its a 74CI, Engine heat isn't a problem but to add to hot pavement and the engine heat rising... One of the nice things that I always appreciated about my 1st Gens was the option of running full covers including the little plastic side covers like the one down by the oil fill - all of those covers are doubly effective, IMHO, if your touring 2 up and you get into cross winds or traffic jams.. I used to hang a hunk of leather I cut from some welding sleeves across the front of the seat on my shovel to keep from cooking my thigh when desert touring and know there are now people manufacturing such things (I think "Captain Itch"? is a common one these days) for exactly that purpose but you simply cannot shroud up an air cooled completely as they really have to breath for cooling purpose.. Snype,,, are you running side covers on your scoot?
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #135 Posted May 25, 2018 cowpuc said: One of the nice things that I always appreciated about my 1st Gens was the option of running full covers including the little plastic side covers like the one down by the oil fill - all of those covers are doubly effective, IMHO, if your touring 2 up and you get into cross winds or traffic jams.. I used to hang a hunk of leather I cut from some welding sleeves across the front of the seat on my shovel to keep from cooking my thigh when desert touring and know there are now people manufacturing such things (I think "Captain Itch"? is a common one these days) for exactly that purpose but you simply cannot shroud up an air cooled completely as they really have to breath for cooling purpose.. Snype,,, are you running side covers on your scoot?Yeah I do but fan blowing heat back at ya too. I am not saying unbearable heat but its noticeable. All my point is if your strattling an engine there is gonna be heat. Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #136 Posted May 25, 2018 snyper316 said: Yeah I do but fan blowing heat back at ya too. I am not saying unbearable heat but its noticeable. All my point is if your strattling an engine there is gonna be heat. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/d9089b7aebc99e554e65105f0cd1526d.jpg Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.You talking about these little things @cowpuc ? Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
cowpuc Posted May 25, 2018 #137 Posted May 25, 2018 snyper316 said: You talking about these little things cowpuc ?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/5eb71450ba550b81b554c6b09003818e.jpg Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face. Yep...
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #138 Posted May 25, 2018 cowpuc said: Yep... Humm dont see how these would help any but like I said its no big deal, I have noticed the guy who was out in Oklahoma who brought his bike down he had like covers in the triangles and have even found some on ebay with chrome in the side covers..
cowpuc Posted May 25, 2018 #139 Posted May 25, 2018 Dont know about you but I also run with the ports on my side covers sealed
cowpuc Posted May 25, 2018 #140 Posted May 25, 2018 snyper316 said: Humm dont see how these would help any but like I said its no big deal, I have noticed the guy who was out in Oklahoma who brought his bike down he had like covers in the triangles and have even found some on ebay with chrome in the side covers.. Tip and I were out in Needles California,, temps pushin 110ish.. I had just swapped in some new oil and left that little plastic cover that goes over the oil fill sitting on the curb.. We went about 50 miles and catching some pretty good desert winds blowing that hot oven like air across the scoot when Tip says "my right foot is getting cooked!!".. Looked down and sure enough,,, guard is gone... Went back and got it,,, definitely that important IMHO..
snyper316 Posted May 25, 2018 #141 Posted May 25, 2018 cowpuc said: Dont know about you but I also run with the ports on my side covers sealedhttp://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112704 I did not get those when I bought my bike, Until I went thru this forumn I did not know there could be covers in the side covers.
DanielM Posted May 26, 2018 #142 Posted May 26, 2018 My first SVTC sighting besides mine... At dealer in Fredericksburg VA including mine there are 3 of us in for scheduled service. All of us have the faster grey version. Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk
ChiefGunner Posted May 26, 2018 #143 Posted May 26, 2018 DanielM said: My first SVTC sighting besides mine... At dealer in Fredericksburg VA including mine there are 3 of us in for scheduled service. All of us have the faster grey version. Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk Lol!! The “faster grey” version eh Daniel?? Thought you’d “slide” that one by un-noticed? Nope! You’re BUSTED dude! Good one though. Lol!
American Posted May 26, 2018 #144 Posted May 26, 2018 DanielM said: My first SVTC sighting besides mine... At dealer in Fredericksburg VA including mine there are 3 of us in for scheduled service. All of us have the faster grey version. Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk Everyone knows Red is the fastest color, that is why police pull over so many red vehicles.
ChiefGunner Posted May 26, 2018 #145 Posted May 26, 2018 American said: Everyone knows Red is the fastest color, that is why police pull over so many red vehicles. Thats right! Get him Amercian!!
snyper316 Posted May 26, 2018 #146 Posted May 26, 2018 ChiefGunner said: Lol!! The “faster grey” version eh Daniel?? Thought you’d “slide” that one by un-noticed? Nope! You’re BUSTED dude! Good one though. Lol!Yeah because everyone knows that mine is the fastest.but even faster then mine is the blue one[emoji12] Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face.
ChiefGunner Posted May 26, 2018 #147 Posted May 26, 2018 snyper316 said: Yeah because everyone knows that mine is the fastest.but even faster then mine is the blue one[emoji12] Never ride faster then your angel can fly. I am as free as the wind on my face. I HAD a BLUE one! And yes it was fast. 😁 [ATTACH=CONFIG]112717[/ATTACH]
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