Prairiehammer Posted May 22, 2016 Author #151 Posted May 22, 2016 Cliff, your "Yamaha Product Manual" is incorrect, at least for the First Generation Ventures. For instance, the 1983 XVZ12TK has a starting number of "000101". I have many actual Ventures in my database with serial numbers before the stated "000286". Same for the 1983 XVZ12TDK; starting serial number is "000101". Other Yamaha documentation confirms the "000101" starting number for those and many other years. The various Yamaha Service Manuals show beginning serial numbers for different years/models. I have copies of the official "Yamaha Model Index 1958-2010", Yamaha document number 1JMC0-0MDL1, and the "000101" starting serial number for the 1983 is confirmed. I would be interested in perusing the Yamaha Product Manual that you cited. Do you have a digital copy of this manual you could send to me? Thanks.
Gray Ghost Posted May 22, 2016 #152 Posted May 22, 2016 The publication is Yamaha Motorcycle/Scooter Product Identification Manual 1980~2008, LIT-MCST-ID-08. It is too big to send by email but I will attach screenshots of the 1983 models.
Prairiehammer Posted May 22, 2016 Author #153 Posted May 22, 2016 Thank you, Cliff. Despite being published by Yamaha Motors, the information is faulty. Even the color of the "black" 1983 XVZ12TK is incorrect when described as "New Yamaha Black". Correctly, the color of the black 1983 Standard is "Sparkle Crimson Black", Yamaha color code 00AY. Another error is in the Literature numbers; I have a XVZ12TK owner's manual and it is "LIT-11626-03-36", not "LIT-11626-03-35" as stated. It appears they transposed XVZ12TK and XVZ12TDK numbers. Six errors in just two entries in that book doesn't strike me as a highly credible book. Here is photographic proof of the existence of "000101" serial number in a 1983 Venture Royale:
Wilzhere Posted May 23, 2016 #154 Posted May 23, 2016 i believe its a dark brown color of some sort, sorry, but i dont really know.
Gray Ghost Posted May 23, 2016 #155 Posted May 23, 2016 Six errors in just two entries in that book doesn't strike me as a highly credible book I no longer have access to the dealer network so I can't access their publications. I never ran across the 2010 publication you referenced in any of my searches there, not sure why but I would guess because it was published in Japan rather than the US. I do know that there are some manuals not available in digital format on their site. It could be that whoever was in charge of putting that publication together didn't have access to all the documentation on a bike that was built 25 years previously. As far as later years go it was a highly credible source of information, along with their pub on ATV/SxS vehicles. Having pictures and info helped me out personally when things came into the shop missing all or portions of identifying numbers. Thanks for pointing out the 2010 pub. I found it on Scribd and now have it in my collection.
gaj1917 Posted May 29, 2016 #156 Posted May 29, 2016 Here are manufacture date and VIN for my '84. Manufacture date: 02/84 VIN: JVA41U008EA001027 Approximately 80,000 km on odometer.
Prairiehammer Posted May 30, 2016 Author #157 Posted May 30, 2016 Thank you, Glen. Canadian Standards are infrequently contributed to the database. I appreciate it. Because the Canadian Ventures sometimes did not share the US colors of respective years, could you elaborate about the color of your Venture?
gaj1917 Posted June 1, 2016 #158 Posted June 1, 2016 Thank you, Glen. Canadian Standards are infrequently contributed to the database. I appreciate it. Because the Canadian Ventures sometimes did not share the US colors of respective years, could you elaborate about the color of your Venture? Orion Blue I think they called it.
Prairiehammer Posted June 1, 2016 Author #159 Posted June 1, 2016 Thanks, Glen. Your "blue" 1984 is actually called "Orion Silver" primary color, "Aurora Silver" secondary color. Confusing, isn't it? Regardless, your Canadian Standard Venture is the same color as the 1984 US Standard Venture.
dna9656 Posted June 11, 2016 #160 Posted June 11, 2016 You have one VIN already, here is both, the "first" and the one I'm picking up tomorrow. new one: JYA59J003FA000512 old one: JYA59J001FA001416 So this one was built later? See my post in the watering hole.
Prairiehammer Posted June 11, 2016 Author #161 Posted June 11, 2016 Thanks, Doug. Yes, "001416" is a later build. (and second gear updated/fixed from the factory). What is the build date on 000512? November 1984?
Hoss Posted June 11, 2016 #162 Posted June 11, 2016 Here's My Venture Royale. VIN : JYA1NL00XHA010334. Built 7 / 86. Take Care
Holly Posted June 13, 2016 #163 Posted June 13, 2016 Had my landlord call me about a venture that he was hauling for a friend, went in and found a very nice 83 Royale, slightly burned around the rear brake! VIN JYA31M002DA003575 build 4/83 Offered to take it of their hands for 500, but he wanted too much more, will sit in a shed and rot!
Prairiehammer Posted June 14, 2016 Author #164 Posted June 14, 2016 Thank you Hoss and Holly (Dale and Daryl).
dna9656 Posted June 20, 2016 #165 Posted June 20, 2016 Newest: JYA59J003FA000512 Don't know if I sent this already...
Flyinfool Posted June 28, 2016 #167 Posted June 28, 2016 And from the bike that most thought did not exist. My 88 standard. I'll have you know that I had to create a clean spot to get that pic............ I sure hope I did not clean off any of the dirt that was holding the bike together.............
Prairiehammer Posted June 28, 2016 Author #168 Posted June 28, 2016 And from the bike that most thought did not exist. My 88 standard. I'll have you know that I had to create a clean spot to get that pic............ I sure hope I did not clean off any of the dirt that was holding the bike together............. Congratulations, 'Fool! You finally made the database after how many years of my inquiry? Thank you. Another congratulations is in order as well: your 1988 CALIFORNIA Standard is the first in my database. Yes, it is a California spec Venture, XVZ13UC ! Did you know that?
Condor Posted June 28, 2016 #169 Posted June 28, 2016 Congratulations, 'Fool! You finally made the database after how many years of my inquiry? Thank you. Another congratulations is in order as well: your 1988 CALIFORNIA Standard is the first in my database. Yes, it is a California spec Venture, XVZ13UC ! Did you know that? That explains why it's so greasy.....
Flyinfool Posted June 28, 2016 #170 Posted June 28, 2016 Unfortunately I do know that it is California, all that emissions crap is always in my way and I am not sure how to get rid of it properly. I'll bet it don't even work anymore. I did not know it was Cali when I bought it, I found out the first time I went to sync the carbs, and have been pissing and moaning about it ever since. There are vacuum lines everywhere and canisters and crap and it is all in the way..............
Flyinfool Posted June 28, 2016 #171 Posted June 28, 2016 That explains why it's so greasy..... That aint greasy, that's rust preventative................... AND and it is slippery so it slides through the air faster............yea thats it..............
Prairiehammer Posted June 28, 2016 Author #172 Posted June 28, 2016 Unfortunately I do know that it is California, all that emissions crap is always in my way and I am not sure how to get rid of it properly. I'll bet it don't even work anymore. I did not know it was Cali when I bought it, I found out the first time I went to sync the carbs, and have been pissing and moaning about it ever since. There are vacuum lines everywhere and canisters and crap and it is all in the way.............. I too have a California Venture. The charcoal canister was already removed when I got the bike. A winter ago, when I had all the plastic off, I cleaned up the remaining emissions apparatus, by removing the air control solenoid valve and rerouting the carb bowl vents and the fuel tank vent to essentially match a non-California Venture. And I simply removed the vacuum line from the number two carb body and capped the spigot.
dna9656 Posted June 28, 2016 #173 Posted June 28, 2016 Congratulations, 'Fool! You finally made the database after how many years of my inquiry? Thank you. Another congratulations is in order as well: your 1988 CALIFORNIA Standard is the first in my database. Yes, it is a California spec Venture, XVZ13UC ! Did you know that? A bike from CA. what a nightmare!
PSTERLINGJR Posted July 1, 2016 #174 Posted July 1, 2016 Here is the 1983 I just got JYA31M004DA000614
VanRiver Posted July 23, 2016 #175 Posted July 23, 2016 Hey @Prairiehammer, hope you are well. I picked up a Donor-cycle today and thought you might want to add it to the Database. Model Year: 1986 Original Color: unknown (all plastic bits are long gone) Date of Manufacture: 11/85 VIN: JYA1NL003GA000954 Valid Arizona Title....But I will be salvaging the bike to use the remaining parts on my other Ventures.
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