Freebird Posted October 25, 2014 #1 Posted October 25, 2014 This is just a bit of notice. I THINK I'm going to try to update the site on Monday evening. Will let you know for sure before I do it. Very nervous about this. Will do a full backup and take every precaution before trying it. Things are going to be a lot different around here once I'm finished. You can take a look at the touring hog site to get an idea of what it will be like. It will be pretty basic once it is up and running. I want to get it fully functional and then will start adding as many of the features back that are possible. Many customizations here over the years. Most are not that important but some may be missed until I figure out a way to get some of them back. I am NOT looking forward to this but it has to be done. Actually thought about doing it this evening but if things go bad....my wife is not going to be happy with me spending the rest of the weekend on the computer. I think it is also time for a color change. Haven't decided what colors yet but am getting tired of the blue. HEY....the ORANGE at the touring hog site looks pretty good. Orange and black...yea....that sounds nice.
cowpuc Posted October 25, 2014 #2 Posted October 25, 2014 This is just a bit of notice. I THINK I'm going to try to update the site on Monday evening. Will let you know for sure before I do it. Very nervous about this. Will do a full backup and take every precaution before trying it. Things are going to be a lot different around here once I'm finished. You can take a look at the touring hog site to get an idea of what it will be like. It will be pretty basic once it is up and running. I want to get it fully functional and then will start adding as many of the features back that are possible. Many customizations here over the years. Most are not that important but some may be missed until I figure out a way to get some of them back. I am NOT looking forward to this but it has to be done. Actually thought about doing it this evening but if things go bad....my wife is not going to be happy with me spending the rest of the weekend on the computer. I think it is also time for a color change. Haven't decided what colors yet but am getting tired of the blue. HEY....the ORANGE at the touring hog site looks pretty good. Orange and black...yea....that sounds nice. Sounds great Don,, well,, all except this Orange and Black idea... I have a hunch that those colors would slow the site speed wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down... Probably take 45 minutes to upload a 2 minute picture... I also have a hunch we are gonna be prone to more breakdowns and gremlin type issues with those colors involved... :stirthepot: Personally,,, I kinda like Dark Maroon, Gold (Blonde) and Black (used lightly).... Hard to describe,,, hmmm,,,, you could send a note to Venturefar,, he knows exactly the colors I am referring to... That color combination has proven itself over and over again in the history of mankind as the fastest speeds, most durable and very much an attention getter around REAL biker type people:rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:...
SilvrT Posted October 25, 2014 #3 Posted October 25, 2014 Good luck to ya Don, I know exactly what you're in for. Take your time, plan it out, and yes, make sure it's all backed up.
utadventure Posted October 25, 2014 #4 Posted October 25, 2014 Green could be good or bad. Makes people think of money......have much they have or how much chrome costs!!
BlueSky Posted October 25, 2014 #5 Posted October 25, 2014 Green could be good or bad. Makes people think of money......have much they have or how much chrome costs!! Or the Army!
Guest divey Posted October 25, 2014 #6 Posted October 25, 2014 I know for a fact that if you really want it to attract people's attention that you color it with a whole bunch of stickers! Just sayin'. Doug
tz89 Posted October 25, 2014 #7 Posted October 25, 2014 Sounds great Don,, well,, all except this Orange and Black idea... I have a hunch that those colors would slow the site speed wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down... wa yd ow nw ay do wn wa yd ow nw ay do wn They read and run about the same speed!
tz89 Posted October 25, 2014 #8 Posted October 25, 2014 Perhaps you could use that backup to create a test site, then do the upgrade, and let a few of us hammer on it. Might get a few lessons learned to ease the real deal.
lsutley Posted October 26, 2014 #9 Posted October 26, 2014 I found a list of the psychological meanings of colors on the net. Let's see what psychological meaning a combination of Orange and Black could present: Warm, sensual, glamorous, passionately sophisticated or depraved, immature, frustrated with poor digestion? Blue and yellow are nice? Some combinations can have a really scary interpretation. RED: Physical Positive: Physical courage, strength, warmth, energy, basic survival, 'fight or flight', stimulation, masculinity, excitement. Negative: Defiance, aggression, visual impact, strain. BLUE: Intellectual Positive: Intelligence, communication, trust, efficiency, serenity, duty, logic, coolness, reflection, calm. Negative: Coldness, aloofness, lack of emotion, unfriendliness. YELLOW: Emotional Positive: Optimism, confidence, self-esteem, extroversion, emotional strength, friendliness, creativity. Negative: Irrationality, fear, emotional fragility, depression, anxiety, suicide. GREEN: Balance Positive: Harmony, balance, refreshment, universal love, rest, restoration, reassurance, environmental awareness, equilibrium, peace. Negative: Boredom, stagnation, blandness, enervation. VIOLET: Spiritual Positive: Spiritual awareness, containment, vision, luxury, authenticity, truth, quality. Negative: Introversion, decadence, suppression, inferiority. ORANGE: Positive: Physical comfort, food, warmth, security, sensuality, passion, abundance, fun. Negative: Deprivation, frustration, frivolity, immaturity. PINK: Positive: Physical tranquility, nurture, warmth, femininity, love, sexuality, survival of the species. Negative: Inhibition, emotional claustrophobia, emasculation, physical weakness. GREY: Positive: Psychological neutrality. Negative: Lack of confidence, dampness, depression, hibernation, lack of energy. BLACK: Positive: Sophistication, glamor, security, emotional safety, efficiency, substance. Negative: Oppression, coldness, menace, heaviness. WHITE. Positive: Hygiene, sterility, clarity, purity, cleanness, simplicity, sophistication, efficiency. Negative: Sterility, coldness, barriers, unfriendliness, elitism. BROWN. Positive: Seriousness, warmth, Nature, earthiness, reliability, support. Negative: Lack of humor, heaviness, lack of sophistication.
Venturous Randy Posted October 26, 2014 #11 Posted October 26, 2014 Too much change. I was married 41 years and should have ended it 20 years earlier than I did, but I hate change. I have had my 1st gen almost 19 years and don't want to try anything else. I lived in my house before this one for 25 years and only moved here because both parents had passed, so it was like moving home. At least we should stay with very similar colors as we have now. Did I say that I hate change? RandyA
Motiv Posted October 26, 2014 #12 Posted October 26, 2014 I was getting ready to be a supporting member, should I wait for the upgrade or will it not make any difference?
cowpuc Posted October 26, 2014 #13 Posted October 26, 2014 I was getting ready to be a supporting member, should I wait for the upgrade or will it not make any difference? Man I dont know Motiv,, I think if I were you I would join now so after the change you can always say that you were a member before the very slow running Orange and Black color days:stirthepot:
Flyinfool Posted October 26, 2014 #14 Posted October 26, 2014 I just know that Yama Mama is hoping that the upgrade will bring her whips back to chat. I will deal with whatever changes there are, I may whine for a while, but I'll get used to it. But black and orange????????
StarFan Posted October 26, 2014 #15 Posted October 26, 2014 But black and orange???????? I actually like the color combo on Don´s HOG site. Very clear and easy to read.
saddlebum Posted October 26, 2014 #16 Posted October 26, 2014 Personally I hate change, specially when it comes to anything involving computers. It seems the more things change the more confusing and troublesome they get. Of all the sites I have been on I always found this one to be the most user friendly. Oh and I like the blue. Also I hope we don't loose our tech library etc..
Freebird Posted October 26, 2014 Author #17 Posted October 26, 2014 I'm thinking that some of you missed my post last week about this change. I'm not upgrading the site because I think that it needs to be the latest and greatest software. I'm very happy with it the way it is. I can promise you that I would not even be thinking about this if there was a choice. The software running on the server is very obsolete now. The PHP version is what they call "end of life" and will no longer be supported. If there is a problem, crash, etc. of any kind, there is not even a copy of it on the system to restore. They have warned me that PHP must be updated. The problem is that this software is so old that it will not run on the updated version of the server software. Now this site is running on VBulletin version 3.8.7. They actually do have a version 3.8.8 now that is supposed to run on the newer PHP BUT....that is only half the issue for us. When I built this site over 10 years ago, I used VBulletin for the forum and a software named VBPortal for the home page. They integrate together and give us the total home page and forum integration that we currently have. I have made many upgrades over the years to keep it as current as possible but have run out of rope to keep it going as is. VBPortal is not even on the market any longer. They went out of business several years ago and I've had to cobble it together to work with various updates to VBulletin. This time though, I just don't have the time or smarts to do it. Making VBPortal work with the newer version of PHP is simply beyond my capabilities and would mean editing thousands of lines of programming code. So I am not doing this to force a change on you that you don't want. I'm doing it to keep the site running.
Dragonslayer Posted October 26, 2014 #18 Posted October 26, 2014 I think it is also time for a color change. Haven't decided what colors yet but am getting tired of the blue. HEY....the ORANGE at the touring hog site looks pretty good. Orange and black...yea....that sounds nice. No No No The Millennium two tone cream are the fastest colors.:thumbsup2: You better not put them Harley Colors on here.
Marcarl Posted October 26, 2014 #19 Posted October 26, 2014 I vote for CONGAC and Chrome,,, everybody comments and stops to gaze on the congac, and it would make me feel right at home.
Brake Pad Posted October 26, 2014 #21 Posted October 26, 2014 Green & White ( The easy way to live ) Whatever you want to do, So Be It
Motorcycle Mike Posted October 26, 2014 #22 Posted October 26, 2014 I appreciate the heads up about you doing this. I've been on other forums when they just did it without warning and leave you wandering WTF untill it comes back up. Thank You!
Freebird Posted October 27, 2014 Author #23 Posted October 27, 2014 OK folks...I've run into major problems trying to do this update. So....after many hours of doing things that I won't even try to explain, I have restored it as was for now. I'm beat and will try again probably tomorrow night. Sorry and than you for your patience.
Skid Posted October 27, 2014 #24 Posted October 27, 2014 Sure made for a long day with our VentureRider.org. Thanks Don
Ben Rollins Posted October 27, 2014 #25 Posted October 27, 2014 Boy am I glad it's back up, This site is like crack, Change is good. I will agree with what ever
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