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Hmmmm,,, 51 hardtailed Panhead,,, gotta at least try

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cowpuc

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Gonna go buy an old panhead,,

doo dah, doo dah..

Hope it goes cheap cause choppers are dead..

ohhh dee doo dayyy

 

At least gotta see what the old girl is,,

doo dah, doo dah,,

I love ol Harleys and thats my bizzz,,

allll the deee doo day

 

Work on her alll night,,,,

for a short ride the next day,,,

still bettin my money on that old chop,,

she's got soul I say..:big-grin-emoticon:

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/4723209035.html

 

 

Hey Condor,,, you make it over to that auction in Lodi?? Any idea what that 4 cylinder Indian went for??:confused07:

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djh3

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Why I bet you can buy'er for good price and then put it up for auction with Barret and probably get 10K. Way to much of a project for me. My luck at these auctions is I get 1 other dummy that wants what I do and he goes crazy on like the second or third bid.

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Mine was a 58 pan with about the same look as this one. I had 22" extension but I can't remember the rake. Yes it was a hard tail and yes it beat me to death. My wife, then my girl friend, remembers going for a ride on it and told me never to pick her up on that crap again.

 

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cowpuc

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well puc did you buy it

 

Just got home about half hour ago,, what a fantastic day for an auction.. LOTS of bikes and parts and fun fun FUN!! Made a couple video's for you guys,, uploading one to Youtube as I type,, may take a while - slow connection..

Aint gonna answer that question Rbig,, keep ya'll guessing,, you will have to wait for the final video to find out :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:

Now to be a REAL jerk wad,, here are some teaser pictures to play with until the feature presentation begins :rotf::rotf::rotf:

cowpuc

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At 60%,, wait for it,,,,, wait for it,,, grab some :icon_lurker: and some :essen_024::fnd_(16):

 

Goofy connection is slower than a stock Harley on a cold morning with straight 50 weight in her oil bag:rotf::rotf:

cowpuc

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So,,, just woke up after falling asleep waiting for this video to upload... Sure dont make the best projector operator do I.. Anyway,, here is the feature presentation,,,, yawwnnn..

cowpuc

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that little red Cushman looks cute

 

I am 100% there with ya Rbig,, those old Cushmans are cuter than a button.. That one ran as well as it looked,, who ever did the restore did a bang up job.. It sold for 4550....

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Scott, the tank on top of those hit and miss engines is for water to cool the engine or cook hot dogs. Does either job well...LOL

Love those old engines. Don't know a lot about them but love to watch and hear them run. I had a IH 1 1/2 HP for a while. I never really did much with it and decided it should go to someone who would show it off. Mine even had the lid for the water tank which you hardly ever see as they usually got lost over the years.

BTW, everyone calls them "hit and miss" engines but a lot of them are not. The real hit and miss engines only fire after several revs, when the rpm's drop. When they are working they fire more regular. Has to do with the governor I think. The one you pointed out is really not a hit and miss and fires every fourth stroke. They tend to run slow and may sound like a hit and miss but when they are working they fire regularly. When a real hit and miss is idling you'd swear it was about to stall and then bang, she fires again.

cowpuc

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Scott, the tank on top of those hit and miss engines is for water to cool the engine or cook hot dogs. Does either job well...LOL

 

Love those old engines. Don't know a lot about them but love to watch and hear them run. I had a IH 1 1/2 HP for a while. I never really did much with it and decided it should go to someone who would show it off. Mine even had the lid for the water tank which you hardly ever see as they usually got lost over the years.

 

BTW, everyone calls them "hit and miss" engines but a lot of them are not. The real hit and miss engines only fire after several revs, when the rpm's drop. When they are working they fire more regular. Has to do with the governor I think. The one you pointed out is really not a hit and miss and fires every fourth stroke. They tend to run slow and may sound like a hit and miss but when they are working they fire regularly. When a real hit and miss is idling you'd swear it was about to stall and then bang, she fires again.

 

Thanks Gary for the info,, never had the privilege of playing with one myself but always wanted to... Now that you mention that about the little cover for the water tank,, during the auction the auctionier picked up a couple small tin oval shaped covers while picking thru some boxes - kinda shrugged his shoulders and tossed em back into a box with some other "junk".. After having looked at those "hit n miss" motors, my mind actually thought those covers looked like the perfect size to fit something I had seen recently but I didnt put that together either,, daaaaaaaa :rotf:..

cowpuc

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So,, Gary got shined some light on the "hit n miss" coolness,, anyone into Airplanes and wanna take a shot at figuring one out? In the video, go to 3:40 and check out the little Airplane motor.. I got talking with an old gentlemen about this after the auction and he filled me in on what he thought it was all about - REALLY NEAT!!

Anyway,, lets see if anyone of our members knows what it is and if that lines up with the story I got about it...

Go to 3:40 in this vid...

oldgoat

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looks like an ultralight engine?

 

I could be wrong.

 

but after scorpion snowmobile went out of business they made engines

for small ultralight planes?

up in Crosby MN

am I close LOL

cowpuc

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looks like an ultralight engine?

 

I could be wrong.

 

but after scorpion snowmobile went out of business they made engines

for small ultralight planes?

up in Crosby MN

am I close LOL

 

You may be right on the money Goat BUT I was told something way different... It appeared to me to be somewhat older in design than the era of snowmobiles,, the only reason I looked closer and thought that was my curiousity was peeked by that older gentleman..

In the end,, we may very well find out that you are right on the mark though!! :backinmyday:

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ABC 8 hp

 

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8 hp http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/ABC8HP.JPG/300px-ABC8HP.JPG ABC 8 hp installed in the English Electric Wren at the Shuttleworth Collection Type Flat-twin aero engine National origin England Manufacturer ABC Motors Limited Designed by Granville Bradshaw First run 1923 The ABC 8 hp is an 8 hp (6 kW) two-cylinder aero engine designed by the noted British engineer Granville Bradshaw for use in ultralight aircraft. The engine was derived from a specially tuned motorcycle unit and was built by ABC Motors, first running in 1923.[1]

 

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The sole surviving English Electric Wren (G-EBNV) flies occasionally at the Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warden and is powered by an ABC 8 hp engine. With barely enough power to maintain flight the aircraft is assisted into the air by a team of volunteers using bungee cord, after which the Wren lands straight ahead following a short 'hop'.[2]

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  • Type: 2-cylinder air-cooled flat-twin
  • Bore: 2.72 in (69 mm)
  • Stroke: 2.13 in (54 mm)
  • Displacement: 24.76 cu in (404 cc)
  • Dry weight: 41 lb (18.6 kg)

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  • Valvetrain: Overhead valve, two valves per cylinder
  • Fuel system: Carburettor
  • Fuel type: Petrol
  • Cooling system: Air-cooled

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  1. Jump up ^ Lumsden 2003, p.51.
  2. Jump up ^ The Shuttleworth Collection - English Electric Wren Retrieved: 7 February 2009
  3. Jump up ^ Lumsden 2003, p.54.

 

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  • Guttery, T.E. The Shuttleworth Collection of historic aeroplanes, cars, cycles, carriages and fire engines. Biggleswade, Bedfordshire: The Collection, 1969. ISBN 978-0-901319-01-2
  • Lumsden, Alec. British Piston Engines and their Aircraft. Marlborough, Wiltshire: Airlife Publishing, 2003. ISBN 1-85310-294-6.

 

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cowpuc

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So,, the old guy at the auction called it a "writer target plane motor" used in WW2.. Did a little digging here and come up with a Righter Drone that fits its picture really well.. Pretty good shot here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioplane_OQ-2 of Marilyn Monroe building one up - how cool is that!!

The way the old guy explained it to me is that these things were basically a drone target used to teach soldiers to shoot and that most of these motors are in the bottom of the ocean...

Bunch more pictures of the "Righter" that resemble the one in the auction vid found here,,

https://www.google.com/search?q=righter+ww2+drone+engine&client=firefox-a&hs=XWG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8mxMVM-LN42zyASLioGQBg&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=657

 

After reading your last post OldGoat,, I can also see where that little motor is a direct fit for the ultralight application,, almost sounds like what they did during WW2 was hook up some RC controls to an ultralight airplane and used em for target practice :backinmyday:

cowpuc

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So, being the impatient sort, I need to ask. Did you get the panhead? What did it go for? :mo money:

 

Nahhh,, went for way more than it was worth - to me anyway.. If you go back and look at the pics you will notice the primary cover had been off for a long time and lots of rust damage was the result.. Certainly repairable/restorable but..

Anyway,, here is the link to the actual auction of the bike

 

It sold for 4500 bucks!!

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