Sleeperhawks Mechanic Posted March 20, 2008 #26 Posted March 20, 2008 "....and have a minimum of 1 gal of ice cream , bananas , cherries , chocoalate fudge , pineapples , whip cream , and more topping ready prior to doing the job . Terms are non-negotionable !!!!!!!" Ummmm, that sounds so good and so much fun!!!
muffinman Posted March 20, 2008 #27 Posted March 20, 2008 It would be even more Fun at your house in the Dungeon Mechanic. what do ya think??????
Sleeperhawks Mechanic Posted March 21, 2008 #28 Posted March 21, 2008 It would be even more Fun at your house in the Dungeon Mechanic. what do ya think?????? It depends on what tools you guys need. The Dungeon can only hold so much!
muffinman Posted March 22, 2008 #29 Posted March 22, 2008 Well I get to castrate not 1 but 2 second gens in the morning and I will get to see Family members to boot I can hardly wait.Now if TheKid shows up it will turn into a real Venture Rider Meet and Eat. Dont be shy ride on up from Charolette we dont bite hard Jeff
mini-muffin Posted March 22, 2008 #30 Posted March 22, 2008 Well we'll be out of here by 7am on our way to Tim's to do his bike and riderduke as well. Jeff's got them 2nd gen's just lining up to be castrated. Hard to believe I know. I already put the camera in the car so I can take pics. I'll post all the pics tomorrow I hope. Margaret
Color01 Posted March 22, 2008 #31 Posted March 22, 2008 I can't wait to have my bike done But first this morning to E.City for the New Rear tire.
Uturn Posted March 23, 2008 #32 Posted March 23, 2008 It's 2035, thought by now someone would have reported how the work went today. I'm sure that MM is back home by now. If I had read the post earlier, I would have rode out to Reidsville and got in line with my new bike ifn there was a spot. Maybe there'll be a post soon. Have a good Egg Day tomorrow. Ride safe. MIKE aka Uturn
BEER30 Posted March 23, 2008 Author #33 Posted March 23, 2008 At last minute decision as I got ahead of some of my chore finished , I departed early this A.M. to Tim's . I caught wind from RiderDuke the night before that there was Rib's to be had , so that was the straw that broke the camel's back and made the final decision as well to go . I arrived at Tim's first at 10:00 and he was already getting the BBQ pit cleaned up for Riderduke's arrival with the rib's . The Muffin's showed up 2nd and Mini grabbed her camera . I forgot mine , so we will have to wait for her to return home to post pic's . As we all finally gathered , we started on Tim's scoot to Colortune , then to Carbtune . Again parts went slinging everywhere ! Not only that , strange things were happening under the blanket !!! We used a blanket to shed out the sunlight to see the combustion flame , so I thought . As we were working on Tim's and Riderduke's scoot , Jeff was having the owners of their perspective scoots to see the flame color as he adjusted the mixture screws . If only Tim could look at the proper cylinder , the job would have gone faster , LOL !!! After Tim's scoot was finished , he and I left to the auto parts store to get some things . He himself commented on how much better the scoot performed . Meanwhile , Jeff and Riderduke were working on the other scoot. They finished up on the scoot up to apoint where the rib's need to be eaten . Mini and Renee fixed up all the side dishes to go along with the ribs , as Jeff just drooled as the ribs where on the BBQ pit . Mini and Renee fixed garlic bread , beans , slaw , and tater salad . Carrot cake was dessert ! Yummy , Yummy it was to say the least . I had to depart back to the home front at 3:00 , but left at 3:30 . As for the MPG results . I departed Hubert , NC to Reidsville , NC traveling an average of 70 mph . The scoot consumed 6 gallons . On the return trip . I placed 1/3 can of Seafoam in the tank , traveling the average of 80+ mph facing 12-15 mph headwinds and a belly full of Riderduke's ribs and still consumed only 6 gallons . I took the scenic route once I got off I-40 which was 260 miles one way from my home to Tim's house . That put my mileage back up to 43 mpg after the Colortune . Yahoo !!!!!!!! So saying the Colortune , new plugs , Carbtune , and now 4 adjustment screw caps missing , it was a success . Thank Muffinman for the work on my scoot . Also for Tim , Renee , Mini , and Riderduke for a delicious time and Dinner . Riderduke , Becky said Thanks for the ribs and they were god . Gizzy said Thanks for the bones ! BEER30
Uturn Posted March 23, 2008 #34 Posted March 23, 2008 Glad you guys had a great M&E Maintenance Day. So, what happened to the caps? Do you have to changeout the plugs when you do the colortune? BTW, did I miss a post, I thought Duke was going to be in NJ today. Catch you later. Ride safe. MIKE aka Uturn
muffinman Posted March 23, 2008 #35 Posted March 23, 2008 Mike David And us Muffins are staying the night. The caps are tamperproof plugs that Yamaha installs on all scoots.They are destined for the trash after removal as we will not be reusing them on any scoot. I am going to do Color01's bike in a couple of weeks as I have alot of things to do around the house and yard but dont worry we will get to you soon.Maybe you two need to figure out a maint day at one of your places for the 5th of April and invite at least the Muffinman to do the colortuneing of yalls bikes. Jeff
hipshot Posted March 23, 2008 #36 Posted March 23, 2008 Mike David And us Muffins are staying the night. The caps are tamperproof plugs that Yamaha installs on all scoots.They are destined for the trash after removal as we will not be reusing them on any scoot. I am going to do Color01's bike in a couple of weeks as I have alot of things to do around the house and yard but dont worry we will get to you soon.Maybe you two need to figure out a maint day at one of your places for the 5th of April and invite at least the Muffinman to do the colortuneing of yalls bikes. Jeff hey jeff. i am confused , a little, about the colortune process. if you do the colortune, does that not go "down the drain", so to speak, when you "RE-SYNC" the carbs? or are you adjusting two different sets of screws? just jt:confused24::confused24:
SaltyDawg Posted March 23, 2008 #37 Posted March 23, 2008 Do you have to changeout the plugs when you do the colortune? MIKE aka Uturn No you don't have to change the plugs, but since you are already taking out the plug to put the colortune plug in you might as well change them. Sounds like you guys had some good eats and a good time. An impromptu meed and eat. It's not a proper meet and eat if a little maintenance doesn't get done.
nkbjones Posted March 23, 2008 #38 Posted March 23, 2008 Mike David And us Muffins are staying the night. The caps are tamperproof plugs that Yamaha installs on all scoots.They are destined for the trash after removal as we will not be reusing them on any scoot. I am going to do Color01's bike in a couple of weeks as I have alot of things to do around the house and yard but dont worry we will get to you soon.Maybe you two need to figure out a maint day at one of your places for the 5th of April and invite at least the Muffinman to do the colortuneing of yalls bikes. Jeff I'd like to get in on this also. If you guys come up with something for the 5th let me know, my wife is busy that day so as long as I'm not working I could meet up. Can anyone say DQ:cool10:
muffinman Posted March 23, 2008 #39 Posted March 23, 2008 hey jeff. i am confused , a little, about the colortune process. if you do the colortune, does that not go "down the drain", so to speak, when you "RE-SYNC" the carbs? or are you adjusting two different sets of screws? just jt:confused24::confused24: Yes it is a different sets of screws JT the carbs need to be resinced after the CT is done Jeff
PGunn Posted March 23, 2008 #40 Posted March 23, 2008 You guys have to check this guys site out not so much for the how to with the colortune but his "poor mans dyno" section. This is scary.... http://www.gadgetjq.com/ctune.htm
BEER30 Posted March 23, 2008 Author #41 Posted March 23, 2008 Here , let me explain further on the ColorTune . (2nd Gen procedure) 1) Remove seat . 2) Shut off fuel valve and remove fuel tank . Don't for get to disconnect tank vent and fuel gauge . 3) Remove Air/Fuel Mixture adjustment caps . They look like little smaller .22 cal. bullets . It takes a set of long handle 45 degree needle-nose plier or a long small screw driver to cam them off . They will fall down into the V of the engine . You can leave them there if you do not mind a potential rattle , or you may go fishing for them . You do not need to replace them unless you are up for the challenge . Having new plug available to put back into the scoot is optional . But since you have the old ones out , why not ? 4) Jeff and I made a fuel cell . Connect to scoots fuel line and rest on top of the air boxes . Holding the scoots fuel tank is not recommended as it is heavy ! 5) Remove left side rear spark plug . Insert CT plug and start motor . As motor is running 1000 rpm , view into CT plug and look at the color it produces . Depending on the back light , you may have to turn off the lights if you are in a shop , or take a blanket and cover your head and cylinder to get darkness to view color tint better . RSV frame can prevent the use of the mirrored tube for viewing on some cylinders . 6) It's best to make this a 2 person job . As it it awkward to look and adjust mixture screw at the same time . As you are tuning , one looks for a Bunsen Burner Blue , as the other adjusts the A/F mixture screw . Once the BBB color is acquire , shut motor down , remove CT plug and then replace the old or new spark plug and SP wire and next , get set up to do the other 3 cylinders in the same procedure . 7) Once all 4 cylinders are tuned , replace all the items you took off back onto the scoot such as tank and seat , etc.... 8) Now that you have the CT finished , double check that you have all your removed parts back on properly , even to remember to reconnect the fuel line and fuel valve turned on . It's time for the CarbTune . I will not go into the CarbTune as the majority of you know already what to do as it has already been discussed . Once CarbTune is completed , you finished . Estimated time to do is around 1 1/2 hours if you are "NOT" eating Ribs and shoot'n the breeze .That's why this is not a M & E Parking lot event . If your going to have Muffinman do the tune . I strongly advise you to have to the A/F plugs removed and any LED lights under tank or personal items removed to make the job go faster . As a personal favor , I ask that you go to Walmart or Dollar store and purchase the thick foam rubber Koozies . Place these on the ends of the handle bars as bumpers , as Muffinman love to put dents in his noggin bumping into the handlebars :rotf: . Now for the Ride ! Hopefully you notice right off , the difference on the smoothness and the peak response within the throttle/power-band as Tim and I have experienced already . The fuel mileage should hopefully increase as mine jumped from 33 to 43 mpg . Not all scoots will be this good or perhaps even better , as many have difference pipes and have done other mods to their scoots . I can only attest to what my scoot's performance is and again a Colortune may not help every scoot , but I would definately recommend it , regardless . I have only placed Baron 4-2-4's and still have everything else stock . No other mods such as AI or vacuum mods have been done and I still have stock air filters . I hope this will help explain for the time being until Muffinman and Mini do a write up with photos . BEER30
Freebird Posted March 23, 2008 #42 Posted March 23, 2008 I do it pretty much the same way except I don't remove the fuel tank. I just unbolt it and lift the front enough to remove the "dog bones" so that I can get to the plugs. I then just let it sit there while I do the colortune.
flb_78 Posted March 23, 2008 #43 Posted March 23, 2008 I assume that the Ventures use the 14mm colortune?
TheKid Posted March 23, 2008 #44 Posted March 23, 2008 Guys and Gals, I def missed out on a great time and sounds like great ribs. I should have showed up and then there could have been 3 done, LOL. I have one question though, Should I wait until I stop getting a shop to do my scheduled check ups? I have two more which will put me to the 20K mark, actually I really need to get up there and get the 16k done and a new front tire probably soon. Then I have to start paying for it LOL. Sorry I missed out. Beer30 ~ Are you busy today if not when would be a good time to call. Being it is easter and all I don't want to bother you when you are with the family and such. Thanks for the invite and I hope to make one of these get togethers soon. TheKid
Color01 Posted March 23, 2008 #45 Posted March 23, 2008 I am going to do Color01's bike in a couple of weeks as I have alot of things to do around the house and yard but dont worry we will get to you soon.Maybe you two need to figure out a maint day at one of your places for the 5th of April and invite at least the Muffinman to do the colortuneing of yalls bikes. Jeff I park my bike always in our Horse barn... and to work on the bike in the weekend will be difficult...due to the fact that my wife gives Horse riding lessons and there are always people in the barn, to work with the horses... It will be better if we could work on the bike somewhere else.
Riderduke Posted March 24, 2008 #46 Posted March 24, 2008 Well Just made it back. It was a little longer trip then I thought. muffinman and I decided to help Tim out with a few home repairs....... we tackled some wiring issues and ended up doing that most of the day. Tim you have some problems over there but we will schedule some other time to get that stuff up to snuff. as far as the Colortune. and after a 240 mile ride back home. i did notice a huge differance with throttle response. i had thought my clutch was starting to ware a little. When i was in 5th the bike seemed a little slugish before the CT. But that is all gone. even though the mountians on I64 in VA the bike was quicker and no longer slugish. the bike also rode much smoother. i have 43,000 miles on the bike and I guess it was time to do this. I only picked up about 3-4 miles per gallon but the bike rides much better. I'll see how things go next weekend when i ride to Atlanta for the meet and eat and rep[ort back. I agree with Salty Dawg that while you have the plugs may as well change them if the haven't been changed in a while. Thanks to Tim and Renee for making this a very memorable easter weekend. Thanks to muffinman and Mini-Muffin for the colortine. And thanks to Beer30 for being Beer30:confused24:
mini-muffin Posted March 24, 2008 #47 Posted March 24, 2008 Yep we got home a while ago as well. Jeff's getting ready to leave and head down to the RV for work tomorrow. We had a lot of fun. Want to play golf Riderduke or Tim? :rotf:I know I'm no good at that game anyway. I'm better at the bowling game. Thanks Tim and Renee for a fun weekend. I think we'll be back to finish up those other repairs. I'll post pics later, I have to resize them yet. Margaret
Riderduke Posted March 24, 2008 #48 Posted March 24, 2008 Want to play golf Riderduke or Tim? :rotf:I know I'm no good at that game anyway. I'm better at the bowling game. we will let Tim explain this comment.. After all its his W.I.I. game:rasberry: First time i missed out on sleep to plag a Video Game:confused07:
mini-muffin Posted March 24, 2008 #49 Posted March 24, 2008 Ok Muffinman made it back to his RV and I just uploaded the pics to the VRPhotobucket. I have the link in the pic folder. Margaret
SledgeHammer Posted March 24, 2008 #50 Posted March 24, 2008 I wanted to post last night, but had a relative come by and stay late after RiderDuke, Muffin, and Mini left. We were thrilled to have Muffin,Mini, RiderDuke, and Beer 30 come for a visit. I feel really bad that Duke and Muffin jumped on a wiring problem on a 4 way and 3 way wall switch and spent so much time on it. Those guys like a challenge and will not give up until they can defeat it. Sometime near bedtime I was showing them the lights for the bedrooms.The hallway light would turn on at one end of the hall and not at the other end. Duke said it was wired wrong. That was the beginning. Before it was over, wall switches were off in the hall,great room,and dining room. The cover was off the electric panel box. Muffinman ended up in the attic and he and RiderDuke were tracing wires every where. Two trips to Walmart and we had a new light changed out over the dining room table and a new light on the back deck. I felt really bad that they were working so hard. But that is why I love these guys. If you have a problem, they just jump in. Just get out of their way and let them go because you could not stop them anyway. Thanks RiderDuke and Muffin for all your work on the wiring. Thanks for the colortune Muffin and thanks for the great ribs Duke. I could write 2 pages on this get together. It was great to see Beer30 ride up. I wish he could have spent the night also, but he had family plans for Easter Sunday. Let me wind this post down. The colortune is great. The first obvious effects are how much smoother the engine is and the improved throttle response. I have not had the chance to check the gas mileage yet. The only sad part of the week-end was to find out that Mini Muffin has a total lack of body coordination when it comes to video games (Wii), but we are working on it. Mini, hold the button and move your arm! To sum up the week-end; it was good friends, good food, and good times.
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