Condor Posted August 11, 2014 #1 Posted August 11, 2014 I ran across this youtube on another board, and thought it was interesting. I know a lot of you already know about the school, but this was the first I'd heard of it. Maybe a few others might find them interesting as well. There are additional 'Tubes' that can be found by searching U for . Although mostly related to Track Day riding, a lot of these tips can be used in a limited way on Ventures as well. Maybe correcting bad habits??
cowpuc Posted August 11, 2014 #2 Posted August 11, 2014 WAY COOL JACK!! I could spend the rest of my life going from school to school learning from the pro's brother!! That said (I can hear you saying,, here we go again:rotf:) I gotta say.. I was down at our local Harley shop yesterday watching the "advanced Harley instructional class" ride around the practice course.. I inquired as to whether or not this was a class for people preparing to ride the roads or for people headed into racing.. I was told it was strickly for highway management. When I asked the instructor how come they dont toss some sand or gravel on a couple corners and turn the sprinklers on some others for the riders to buzz through, he laughed at me and looked at me like I was nuts (I get that a lot).. I told him that, IMHO, there is a difference between learning to read a track and learning to handle stuff that the road throws at us everyday out here in the real world.. That said, I REALLY appreciate your comment of - a lot of these tips can be used in a limited way on Ventures as well. Maybe correcting bad habits?? By the way brother,, those guys at the Harley Advanced Training were riding the brand new 500cc Harleys (looked like baby V-Rods), REALLY neat little bikes in their own right!! Puc
videoarizona Posted August 12, 2014 #3 Posted August 12, 2014 Puc, The advanced schools in the Phoenix area make you use your own scoot. They feel that learning slow speed handling and accident avoidance is mandatory on your own ride. The guy who did my refresher course 3 years ago is the lead instructor on the advanced course as well. He rides a Hayabusa very fast and says he practices what he teaches!! (grins) Meanwhile, I'm teaching myself rudimentary plastic repair....sigh! david
cowpuc Posted August 12, 2014 #4 Posted August 12, 2014 Puc, The advanced schools in the Phoenix area make you use your own scoot. They feel that learning slow speed handling and accident avoidance is mandatory on your own ride. The guy who did my refresher course 3 years ago is the lead instructor on the advanced course as well. He rides a Hayabusa very fast and says he practices what he teaches!! (grins) Meanwhile, I'm teaching myself rudimentary plastic repair....sigh! david See David,, now THAT makes HUGE sense to me, especially for an Advanced Road Riding Course! If I were young and money were no issue I would invent a virtual test machine for motorcycle training simular to a flight simulator.. The beginning rider would get on a real bike mounted on a dyno like stand. Screens on sides and in front. Starting out literally running the bike thru the gears and braking, learning throttle control, clutch and braking while an instructor is standing right next to the bike. Than proceed to a virtual roadway. An intersection where cars are present, a car creeps at the intersection and the machine records your reactions. The shadow of a kid on bicycle behind is shown, the machine records your reaction.. A truck driver comes across the center line, the machine records your reaction. Gravel on a hidden paved corner, the machine records your reaction. A deer jumps in front of you, the machine records your reaction. Its set up so you advance thru the course as your skills increase.. After passing the "bike simulator" you EARN the graduation of going onto the actual test track.. I know what cha mean on the plastic repair too my friend!! You dont think I have all those stickers on my bike just for conversation purposes do you:rotf::rotf:
racer514 Posted August 13, 2014 #5 Posted August 13, 2014 The skills taught there are invaluable for on track and road riders. Their theory is that the same skills the best in the world use to race, are applicable to any road rider. Any rider, any road is one of their motto's. How do you use the front brake, in a turn, to point your bike in the safest direction? They teach you that not only is your front brake your friend, it's actually your best friend for 90 percent of the situations that happen out on the road. Although the racetrack is a great and safe place to learn these habits, they will apply in many, many other situations.
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