midnightrider1300 Posted May 17, 2014 #1 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) well I just got slapped in the face ( figure of speech) went out to check my bike my back tire has wire showing thru http://bamarides.com/ride/Smileys/don/sad-034.gif .... what makes me mad I don't have bout 3k miles on the dunlop E3, I've been getting 11/15k miles out of them, I'm bummed... maybe that is why it was so cheap on EBAY .... Edited May 18, 2014 by midnightrider1300
Flyinfool Posted May 17, 2014 #2 Posted May 17, 2014 Are you saying that the wire from the bead is coming out? I did not think that there was any other wire as part of the tire? Or is the wire a piece of road debris?
cowpuc Posted May 17, 2014 #3 Posted May 17, 2014 well I just got slapped in the face ( figure of speech) went out to check my bike my back tire has wire showing thru http://bamarides.com/ride/Smileys/don/sad-034.gif .... what makes me mad I don't have bout 4/5k miles on the dunlop E3, I've been getting 11/15k miles out of them, I'm bummed... maybe that is why it was so cheap on EBAY .... COPY/PASTED from the "Dang Tire" thread to follow ya here Midnight.. Now THAT brings up an interesting topic Midnight:scratchchin: Years ago I bought into a batch of cheap Michellin tires (yea, I know,, "cheap" and "Michellin" never went together so I shoulda known something was up) for the back of my KX500 M/X bike.. Brand new tire, go single trackin with some buds, guy behind me pulls up at a break in the action and says "I keep getting hit by hunks of rubber from your rear tire".. Took a look and I was literally missing over half the knobs on a brand new rear tire.. Have always wondered if there was something to the thought of tire manufactures sourcing out "seconds" or maybe even "thirds" and having them land in the hands of people like me tryin to ride on the "cheap"... If that is the case,, there is a really good chance that in my lifetime of destroying motorcycle tires, I have NEVER owned a "good" set of tires in my life:rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rot f::rotf: Another interesting thought on the tire subject... I gotta bud down the street who always buys the best of the best.. He buys some kind of multi-rubber tire for the rear of his 2010 Ultra Classic.. Suppose to be hard in the center (to fight wear) and soft on the outer (maintains good grip),, I know he paid a lot of money for his rear tire,,,, I think its a Dunlop,, but he has over 10k Michigan miles on it and it still looks great... Just a thought...
midnightrider1300 Posted May 17, 2014 Author #4 Posted May 17, 2014 Are you saying that the wire from the bead is coming out? I did not think that there was any other wire as part of the tire? Or is the wire a piece of road debris? I'm saying that there is a place in the middle of my tire and wire is showing.... it's in the tire
midnightrider1300 Posted May 17, 2014 Author #5 Posted May 17, 2014 ok just ordered from JakeWilson....this tire where I WORK was gonna cost me $188.00 150/90B-15 (80H) Avon Venom AM42 Rear Motorcycle Tire Black Wall1245550008 receive by May 21, 2014 total $146.99 FREE SHIPPING __________________
BlueSky Posted May 18, 2014 #6 Posted May 18, 2014 Could it be counterfeit Dunlops? The Chinese have been know to counterfeit almost everything else!
midnightrider1300 Posted May 18, 2014 Author #7 Posted May 18, 2014 Could it be counterfeit Dunlops? The Chinese have been know to counterfeit almost everything else! It could have been... seriously I don't think I got 3K miles out of it...I know I WONT buy any more tires off of EBAY unless it is from a well known source....
Prairiehammer Posted May 18, 2014 #8 Posted May 18, 2014 I'm saying that there is a place in the middle of my tire and wire is showing.... it's in the tire I'm curious of the origin of this 'wire', too. Some Dunlop E3 are belted, but not with steel. I take it the cords are showing on the tire and the wire that you see is part of the cord fabric? Somethings not right. There should be no wire fabric or a single piece of wire in that tire. I would keep that tire and present it to Dunlop for their evaluation and warranty.
midnightrider1300 Posted May 18, 2014 Author #9 Posted May 18, 2014 I'm curious of the origin of this 'wire', too. Some Dunlop E3 are belted, but not with steel. I take it the cords are showing on the tire and the wire that you see is part of the cord fabric? Somethings not right. There should be no wire fabric or a single piece of wire in that tire. I would keep that tire and present it to Dunlop for their evaluation and warranty. When I get the tire off I will take pictures and post them of the tire wear and show the "cord" / wire I was talking about....
greg_in_london Posted May 18, 2014 #10 Posted May 18, 2014 Surely you get wires in the bead, though if that was showing the tyre would be in danger of ripping apart and jumping off the rim... 3K miles ? I had a Kenda down to illegal in less than 1000 miles, but I have a sidecar and was pulling a trailer.
IronMike Posted May 19, 2014 #11 Posted May 19, 2014 As a truck driver I've delivered and picked up tires from many places. All I have to say is. Brand don't mean much. They all outsource and what went into that tire may not be what goes into the next. It seems to be a fairly unregulated industry with a high turnover of labor. And they are always looking for a less expensive source for supplies just like everyone else. You might get 15k out of one tire, buy the same exact one from the same exact people and get totally less than desirable experience. I've never gotten less than 25 k out of a Dark side configuration with a MC rear on the front. I just had two spanking new tires on when I bought the bike. Metzler front and rear and I've worn them both to the threads in 7k mi. First time ever the front did not double the rear. That was a lot of curvy roads though that's what I like.
midnightrider1300 Posted May 19, 2014 Author #12 Posted May 19, 2014 thanks for all the input. I do value your opinions... I have learned one thing in life, listen to those that have experience in what you have questions about, it makes the road a little easier to travel....
midnightrider1300 Posted May 20, 2014 Author #13 Posted May 20, 2014 Ok I ordered my tire from Jake Wilson Saturday, just checked and they moved delivery date from the 21st to the 20th ..... so hopefully i will have some answers to some of questions when I get the bad tire off....
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