Venture Yamaha Jack Lift Adapter

[Al Bates]

Patents??? My experience is, patents will protected your product and idea as long as no one tries to still it from you. If that happens it depends on who is stilling. Now it's who has the $$$$ for attorneys. A good attorney can protected you and your idea. This depends on how much money each side wants to put out to attorneys. The best attorney will win.

 

Let's not forget about O jay and the right brothers. I'm shock what people will do for $$$$ these days.

 

Bottom line: Always patent your idea before showing or telling anyone.

 

That's my:2cents:

[FreezyRider]

PATENT INFO CLARIFICATION:

 

I was incorrect in my previous posting about not being patentable if it's already been released to the public. The below is from bitlaw.com's pages on patent law (emphasis added by me):

 

Novelty (Newness) Requirement:

In order for an invention to be patentable, it must be new as defined in the patent law. This novelty requirement states that an invention cannot be patented if certain public disclosures of the invention have been made. The statute which explains when a public disclosure has been made (35 U.S.C. Section 102) is complicated and often requires a detailed analysis of the facts and the law. The most important rule, however, is that an invention will not normally be patentable if:

• the invention was known to the public before it was "invented" by the individual seeking patent protection;
  
• the invention was described in a publication more than one year prior to the filing date; or
  
• the invention was used publicly, or offered for sale to the public more than one year prior to the filing date.

Although the United States grants the one year grace period described in the last two rules above, most other countries do not grant such a period. Therefore, it is almost always preferable to file a patent application before any public disclosure of the invention. Most patent attorneys will try diligently to file a patent application prior to any public release or announcement in order to allow international patent filings.

 

 

So, Carbon_one, it appears that it may not be too late to file. If granted a provisional patent, you could then contact the ebay seller and demand that he immediately cease and desist manufacturing, promoting, or selling his product unless he pays you royalties. Of course, all he has to do is make some mods and you're back in the same boat.

[Mean Dog]

According to this jerk's feedback on E-Bay, it appears that he sold his first one in May, if that isn't a forgery too! Boy, this gets the "Dog" Mad! I really feel bad for Larry!

 

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Dog

[Tommy]

Larry;

Does your device fit a gen one??I have a new 1500 lb. bike lift, but I have to build an adapter for the bike frame.

[BuddyRich]

I got one of Larry's with the legs. Great piece of equipment. I would recommend it over anything else out there.

[BEER30]

Good luck Carbon on the persuite of a patent . If you need any help , I be willing to help out in anyway I can . Just give me a call . Also look into the aspect of the adapter in use for other MC and ATV's . I also have a Yamaha Timberwolf and it barely fits on my lift .

 

Gene

[Carbon_One]

Larry;

Does your device fit a gen one??I have a new 1500 lb. bike lift, but I have to build an adapter for the bike frame.

Tommy I hate to say it but the Gen 1 bikes have their exhaust directly under the frame so my lift won't work on them. Not sure here but I think all 1st gen people just lift their bikes directly up under the exhausts. Then there's that center stand to get around too.

Would a 1st genner please step in and correct me if I'm wrong.

Larry

[Carbon_One]

To answer some of you who've given me great moral support here I wish to thank you. Whether I have possible recourse thru applying for a provisional patent right or not remains to be seen. As Al noted it may be to little too late once the door has been opened. Not to mention what it may cost me in the long run. I have made some contacts and am currently waiting for responses from them. Only time & money will tell where this takes me.

 

It never has been my intention here to corner the market so to speak on these adapters. My only thought was helping out the brothers here with a product that made using the Ventures easier in our life. That is why I first posted up my drawing along with dimensions last year sometime. It was before the sites crash and can't remember exactly when I posted that info. Once I lost my job and without any on the horizon I decided to use my talents to make them and offer them to our members here who don't have the knowledge or skills to build their own. Thus I got into selling them. Over time I also listed my adapter for sell at the Delphi fourms Royal Star Venture & Tour Deluxe site. When someone else had decided to capitalize on my design I have no idea. Did he STEAL from me? Kinda hard to say since I did place my drawing out for public viewing. Was it ethical? Again that's a judgement call. It does upset me knowing that there was no respect given me, but that doesn't seem to matter one bit for a lot of people in today's world.

 

As I've said many times I do Thank everyone one for their support in both buying an adapter from me & for moral support. I like to think of us as family here and I do believe that is true as I've seen many wonderfull examples of that since I came to this site in June of 05. I look forward to continue serving our member's here with whatever I can do to make this site as great as it already is.

 

Thanks, Larry

[BEER30]

Carbon ,

To obtain a provisional , an attorney can get you started for around $1,000.00 . Cheaper if you do it yourself . But to put the shoe on the other foot , you need at least document what and when your idea came to life . If the other person decided he wants to patent it , it could backfire on you . But my advice is to find all documentation that you have and store in a safe place .

If you come up with a new improvement , keep in under radar till you decide what to do .

I knew a guy whom invented an item on which I thought was pretty silly . Not he doesn't work anymore because he doesn't have too . I don't think he silly anymore .

Gene

[Guest SALTY]

Larry I hope you can get a patent for this great adaper and stand. If you let the drawing out od ok'd for someone to make their own from you drawing then would that jeopardize a patent??

Good luck i sur elike mine allready!