VentureFar Posted February 26, 2014 #1 Posted February 26, 2014 So I received my new points set and was anxious to get them in and get my RSV running. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/ihavethespirit/Yamaha%20Royal%20Star%20Midnight%20Venture/Newpoints_zpsa844287f.jpg Being the curious person that I am, I did a little pushing and poking and OH NO! BOING ! It all came apart. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/ihavethespirit/Yamaha%20Royal%20Star%20Midnight%20Venture/newpointsOOPS_zpsd2f80d8c.jpg Luckily I had the old part to compare against but it still took me quite a while to figure out how to "spring load" it, but I get it back together. PHEW! Next I went to install it and it didn't work. No open and close. I remembered reading somewhere to make sure that "something catches " on the post that comes out of the pump. There is a groove around the little post that needs to snag on something on the points. The odd shaped hole in the piece I am pointing to with the pliers is the edge that needs to snag the groove. I tried it several times and it is a spring pressure that pushes the edge of the hole into the groove. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/ihavethespirit/Yamaha%20Royal%20Star%20Midnight%20Venture/newpointscatch_zpsd02c9919.jpg Just take your time and DON'T get curious how the springy parts work....... fyi it doesn't "clatter" like the factory points. I don't hear it making the familiar click click click, but it is working. I will definitely be checking it every 10,000 miles from now on. Hope this helps. VentureFar...
bongobobny Posted February 26, 2014 #3 Posted February 26, 2014 They make the fuel pump go clickety clack...
djh3 Posted February 26, 2014 #4 Posted February 26, 2014 Hmm I'm wondering, I use to make my old ignition points last longer by sandpapering them ocasionaly. Think this would help the fuel pump points?
csdexter Posted February 26, 2014 #5 Posted February 26, 2014 Funny how you can find optical kits for similar old-style fuel pumps for cars, but none for motorcycles :-( By "optical kits" I mean a small PCB with a small light barrier arrangement that's interrupted by the stem of the pump when it moves. Preserves the operating principle but lasts forever with zero maintenance. Others are based on a Hall sensor, but same idea.
VentureFar Posted February 27, 2014 Author #6 Posted February 27, 2014 What is it these points do:think: Bongobobny is correct and funny. I like that. If you pull the left side cover off you will see a fuse box and a round black plastic cover. The round black plastic cover protects the points - that go clackity clack and push- suck- pressurize the fuel system. If the points stick together due to uneven wear or burning up then the fuel pump doesn't work and you come to a stop at the most inopportune time. Please open that black cover and look at your points. They should be clean and straight cut. If not, your choices are buy a replacement set of points for $29 or an oem pump for $300. The rest of this discussion is about alternative "points" for the oem fuel pump. VentureFar...
bongobobny Posted February 27, 2014 #7 Posted February 27, 2014 Thanis for the compliment VF!! I try! Of course Steamer is a personal friend so part of my response was sarcastically directed towards him but yes I was injecting humor...
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted February 27, 2014 #8 Posted February 27, 2014 Thanis for the compliment VF!! I try! Of course Steamer is a personal friend so part of my response was sarcastically directed towards him but yes I was injecting humor... No injection on the RSV all carborated!
VentureFar Posted February 27, 2014 Author #9 Posted February 27, 2014 Thanis for the compliment VF!! I try! Of course Steamer is a personal friend so part of my response was sarcastically directed towards him but yes I was injecting humor... Actually I laughed out loud. I truly enjoy this forum and everyone I have had the pleasure to begin to get to know - and that includes Cowpuc. VentureFar...
bongobobny Posted February 27, 2014 #10 Posted February 27, 2014 Kevin, you are just as bad if not worse than the both of us!!!
djh3 Posted February 27, 2014 #11 Posted February 27, 2014 I have not investigated this yet. So how hard is it to get to the fuel pump/points. I know the fuel filter is a @#$% I have located the pump, are they on the end of it?
VentureFar Posted February 27, 2014 Author #12 Posted February 27, 2014 I have not investigated this yet. So how hard is it to get to the fuel pump/points. I know the fuel filter is a @#$% I have located the pump, are they on the end of it? Just unscrew the single Phillips and peel the cap open. Slowly as wires run thru a grommet. If the wires won't slide spray some wd40. There they are. Look in the middle. That is the points. They should be clean and square. Not eaten up. To replace Two screws and one soldered wire. No skill required. Just don't play with the springy stuff like I did. VentureFar...
djh3 Posted February 27, 2014 #13 Posted February 27, 2014 May be worth a look see. My old ford from high school use to eat points left and right. I got to where I carried a pair or 2 in the glove box.
wes0778 Posted February 28, 2014 #14 Posted February 28, 2014 Bongobobny is correct and funny. I like that. If you pull the left side cover off you will see a fuse box and a round black plastic cover. The round black plastic cover protects the points - that go clackity clack and push- suck- pressurize the fuel system. If the points stick together due to uneven wear or burning up then the fuel pump doesn't work and you come to a stop at the most inopportune time. Please open that black cover and look at your points. They should be clean and straight cut. If not, your choices are buy a replacement set of points for $29 or an oem pump for $300. The rest of this discussion is about alternative "points" for the oem fuel pump. VentureFar... Is this an OEM part? If not, where did you get this point set?
VentureFar Posted February 28, 2014 Author #15 Posted February 28, 2014 It is an aftermarket set. This is where I got them and how much I paid. You can buy them from many sources and almost all the others are less expensive and free shipping. It is only because of the exorbitant charge for shipping that I do not recommend my supplier. just google 18-4615 and you will see the same part everywhere and cheaper.. Same part, exactly. Even the service writer at North Hollywood Yamaha when pressed agreed a better fix is points replacement instead of a whole new fuel pump. 18-4615 - K&L Supply Universal Fuel Pump Point Switch Kit Universal Fuel Pump Point Switch Kit Color: Black @$33.95ea. Subtotal: $33.95 Shipping: $17.77 via UPS Ground Estimated Delivery: 2/24/14 - 2/27/14 Sales Tax: $0.00 Total Amt: $51.72 http://www.powersportswarehouse.com 329 By pass 123 Seneca, SC 29678 864-888-8123 Hope this helps. VentureFar...
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