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I like Timken myself and if you just go to a bearing jobber to buy them you'll probably save money but someone will have to give you the size info. I don't actually think "All Balls" is a respected name in bearing mfg. Looks like they're putting their label on another product.

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I like Timken myself and if you just go to a bearing jobber to buy them you'll probably save money but someone will have to give you the size info. I don't actually think "All Balls" is a respected name in bearing mfg. Looks like they're putting their label on another product.

 

Right on target Crusher, I am sure that its just a repack from All Balls and I am a Timken man too!! I tried finding Timkens for one of my 1st Gen neck bearings once and couldnt find them BUT if they are available by all means he should use em!!! Excellent point!!!

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Only time will tell the quality of bearings,,, and if you find out that it's not as good a expected, then it's too late for anything but a redo with what you should have used in the first place. I'd stay with known quality if possible.

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I know that some of the members on the XJ forum have used them and there has been issues with them fitting properly. But on the other hand if they fit properly they will last. Problem is if they do not fit properly they tell you you have to do a lot of unnecessary work to get them to fit. So its a bit of a crap shoot as to weather they will fit or not. :crying:

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On a 2nd gen, the part numbers were a bit odd. Timken didn't show a direct cross over from the original Japanese brand (NTN or Koyo - don't recall which). If you are able to find a Timken brg for this, it won't have the seal.

 

All Balls is a brg repackager. They don't make anything (that I know of). If the tapered bearing brand is one of the 1st world producers (Japan - NTN, Koyo, NSK; Sweden - SKF, Germany - FAG) you will be alright. However, if it turns out to be one of the Chinese manufacturers (Peer), I would pass.

 

In a younger life I was an engineer for Timken. Top quality. However, the steering application isn't very taxing to the bearing design. Therefore, any good quality bearing will work.

 

Just keep in mind you need the seal with it.

 

FYI - I bought bearings from the dealer when I replaced mine.

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In my opinion buy only brand name bearings.

Go to a bearing shop and they can cross reference the numbers on the bearing.

 

Each number has a specific meaning. (i.e. size ID/OD, seal, material, cage, etc.)

 

Some brand names:

FAG

Timken

 

Buy good quality bearings and do it once. It ends up being cheaper than doing it twice and less aggravating.

 

:2cents:

Bubber

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In my opinion buy only brand name bearings.

Go to a bearing shop and they can cross reference the numbers on the bearing.

 

Each number has a specific meaning. (i.e. size ID/OD, seal, material, cage, etc.)

 

Some brand names:

FAG

Timken

 

Buy good quality bearings and do it once. It ends up being cheaper than doing it twice and less aggravating.

 

:2cents:

Bubber

 

 

That's what I was thinking Bubber. These have 80k on them and are getting the notch in center. I'm thinking lift them up and rotate 90 degrees and clean and repack would extend them another 50k??

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That's what I was thinking Bubber. These have 80k on them and are getting the notch in center. I'm thinking lift them up and rotate 90 degrees and clean and repack would extend them another 50k??

Yep, spin them around and in a short while they'll rotate back to where they were and you can do it again,,,, bearings are made to turn EH?

To be more specific, the biggest problem will be with the races, and you'll bugger them up getting them off to spin anyways. For the cost, replace them, and as mentioned, you local bearing dealer will be able to get them for you and can probably get a seal to do the job as well, or just be real careful with the present seal and use it again, seeing as it's not that super critical.

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That's what I was thinking Bubber. These have 80k on them and are getting the notch in center. I'm thinking lift them up and rotate 90 degrees and clean and repack would extend them another 50k??

 

For all the work you have to do to get to the bearings in the first place you might as well replace them. Even if you go back to Yamaha for the bearings they are good quality and you can get them at a discount at several online houses. If you look in the yellow pages where you live I'll bet there is an industrial supply house that will have what you need in a quality name brand bearing. I have gotten good quality bearings for many odd brands of motorcycle over the years at local industrial bearing houses. So far the only thing I couldn't find was a bearing for a Zundapp KS 601 and the needle bearing for our final drives that is proprietary to Yamaha.

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For all the work you have to do to get to the bearings in the first place you might as well replace them. Even if you go back to Yamaha for the bearings they are good quality and you can get them at a discount at several online houses. If you look in the yellow pages where you live I'll bet there is an industrial supply house that will have what you need in a quality name brand bearing. I have gotten good quality bearings for many odd brands of motorcycle over the years at local industrial bearing houses. So far the only thing I couldn't find was a bearing for a Zundapp KS 601 and the needle bearing for our final drives that is proprietary to Yamaha.

Pivot Works list the needle bearing, contained in a complete kit for the rear wheel,,, about $50,, but I don't see the inner race for the needle bearing shown.

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Here is a hint.

Bearing manufacturers want you to know that they made the bearing, they are proud of them.

I wouldn't buy any bearing that didn't have the manufacturer's name on the bearing.

Most likely repackage from China.

Run would be my advice. :2cents:

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Pivot Works list the needle bearing, contained in a complete kit for the rear wheel,,, about $50,, but I don't see the inner race for the needle bearing shown.

 

Thanks for the info Marcarl. Things are always changing. I did the wheel bearings on my 86 about 12 years ago.I think the only way to get them then was thru a Yamaha dealer or at least that is all I could find.

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