Kids, sidecars, and Royale & RSV questions

[Beau-Kat]

As many of you may remember, my wife and I adopted a 16 month old (Simon) 2.5 years ago. Well, he will be 4 next month. How time flies!

 

We will be adopting again this summer. Another son (Evan) with the same condition as Simon (Albinism). He will be 4 in August, so they may be mistaken for twins.

 

My wife said that I need to get a sidecar. So, I just purchsed a 2 passenger California Sidecar Friendship 3 that was made between 1988 and 1993. It was connected to a Goldwing 1500 and I have most of the brackets, only missing 3 clamps. The previous owner is cleaning up and may find those. Of course, I know that I would have to change some things, do some modifications (and paint it) to make the car fit one of my Yamahas.

 

It is in good shape and I intended to hook it up to the Royale, but after reading some posts on sidecar sites about rear tire mileage going way, way down, I think I might put it on the RSV and use a car tire when my new tire wears out. Since I wouldn't be leaning around corners anymore, I think the car tire would work fine.

 

Due to the narrower rear rim, a car tire really isn't an option for a Royale, is it?

 

Comments or suggestions truly appreciated.

Edited January 20, 2014 by Beau-Kat

[Pegasus1300]

i have not heard of any car tires that would fit a regular VR rear rim.That having been said I don't know why somebody like Precision Machine couldn't make one for you.

As to fitting the sidecar I think that CSC could supply you with anything you need in the way of mounting brackets for either bike.

Hope that gives you some ideas.

[Goose68]

Go to the dark side sight and read around . I am positive I have read where a guy has used a spare car tire. I am not saying yea or nae to riding a car tire. Just letting you know where I read about it. Hope it works out for you.

[Beau-Kat]

i have not heard of any car tires that would fit a regular VR rear rim.That having been said I don't know why somebody like Precision Machine couldn't make one for you.

As to fitting the sidecar I think that CSC could supply you with anything you need in the way of mounting brackets for either bike.

Hope that gives you some ideas.

 

Thanks for the idea.

Sadly, CSC doesn't support the sidecars anymore. From what I understand, they only do trikes now.

 

I found a place that offers the clamps that connect to the motorcycle frame. But they want $105 for each clamp. May have to just bite the bullet and buy 3 of those anyway.

[djh3]

Try a local parts house that has big truck parts. Not your Advance or Autozone someone that carries big rig stuff. They should have some in a varitey you can use.

[Bob Myers]

Do you have pictures and app sizes for these clamps you need?

[Beau-Kat]

Try a local parts house that has big truck parts. Not your Advance or Autozone someone that carries big rig stuff. They should have some in a varitey you can use.

 

Thanks. We have a farm supply place and a big truck place near me.

[Beau-Kat]

Do you have pictures and app sizes for these clamps you need?

 

Good idea.

I'll try to upload a few pictures and identify the dimensions today or tomorrow.

[Flyinfool]

My thoughts were the same as Bobs. $100 sounds like a lot for a "clamp", how hard can it be to make?

[Guest tx2sturgis]

My thoughts were the same as Bobs. $100 sounds like a lot for a "clamp", how hard can it be to make?

 

Sidecar frame clamps tend to be pretty heavy-duty, machined, and sometimes have threaded inserts.

 

Not your typical hose clamp.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Side-Car-Connector-Clamps-Tie-Rods-Set-OEM-/301072716394?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item461955126a&vxp=mtr

[Beau-Kat]

Good idea.

I'll try to upload a few pictures and identify the dimensions today or tomorrow.

 

Here's some photos. Dang. Forgot to take measurements of the hole and clamp sizes.

 

I added some photos of the car. From the small tail light and windshield external hinges, I think it was made between 1988 and 1993.

 

Anyone seen a fuel cell like that one in the photos? Got it and a fuel pump with the sidecar. It looks like about a 3 gallon and says Champion Sidecar on it. Don't know where the previous owner had it installed.

[Bob Myers]

the fuel cell looks just like the one in my Wing, it too is a Champion. On my GL1500 it is in the right side box.

I've not had an opportunity to fill it yet, but I'm hoping it is more than 3 gallons.

[Beau-Kat]

the fuel cell looks just like the one in my Wing, it too is a Champion. On my GL1500 it is in the right side box.

I've not had an opportunity to fill it yet, but I'm hoping it is more than 3 gallons.

 

What do you mean by right side box?

[Bob Myers]

right hand saddlebag on the bike. They're hard bags more like a danged box than a bag, I just misname them as a box

Edited January 22, 2014 by Bob Myers

[Beau-Kat]

Gotcha. Maybe that is where this one was mounted.

The sidecar was at one location and the bike it had been attached to was at another. The bike hadn't run in years and was pretty much a carcass. I had to go to the bike to remove some things, quick connect ss brake line, the one clamp that I could find, and a few other things.

I texted the lady today to see if she could find any more parts for the sidecar. She said her husband hoarded all kinds of stuff and she is trying to get all the sheds and buildings sorted out now. Hopefully, she will find some more things that I need to try to get this car attached to one of my Ventures soon. I know that all the Wing attachment stuff will not just "hook up" to my bike. But, maybe I'll get lucky and not have to buy too many things.

Thanks for your response.

[Bob Myers]

I'm not likely to be of much use in designing what you need to make it work but if you can draw it, I can make it

[Beau-Kat]

Thanks.

I'm good mechanical and electrical, but not much in the fabrication or welding/milling department.

Got any photos of the lower attachments on your bike? Just want to get an idea of how this car attached to the Wing. When I was scavenging from the bike, I found some sort of frame mount thing lying beside the bike. It looks like a wide "C" with two holes on either end and one boss for a short sidecar connecting arm in one of the curves. The piece has some scrapes on the under side of both "curves", leading me to think it was mounted below the bikes frame.

Maybe I can get a photo of that tomorrow.

[Bob Myers]

Highly likely that went from one side of the frame to the other, as you say, beneath the bike. Tie both sides of the frame together for stiffness without stressing either component.

I'll try to shoot some pics for you tomorrow, 24ºF in my garage right now

[Beau-Kat]

Appreciate it. Thanks and talk later.

[Pegasus1300]

As many of you may remember, my wife and I adopted a 16 month old (Simon) 2.5 years ago. Well, he will be 4 next month. How time flies!

 

We will be adopting again this summer. Another son (Evan) with the same condition as Simon (Albinism). He will be 4 in August, so they may be mistaken for twins.

 

My wife said that I need to get a sidecar. So, I just purchsed a 2 passenger California Sidecar Friendship 3 that was made between 1988 and 1993. It was connected to a Goldwing 1500 and I have most of the brackets, only missing 3 clamps. The previous owner is cleaning up and may find those. Of course, I know that I would have to change some things, do some modifications (and paint it) to make the car fit one of my Yamahas.

 

It is in good shape and I intended to hook it up to the Royale, but after reading some posts on sidecar sites about rear tire mileage going way, way down, I think I might put it on the RSV and use a car tire when my new tire wears out. Since I wouldn't be leaning around corners anymore, I think the car tire would work fine.

 

Due to the narrower rear rim, a car tire really isn't an option for a Royale, is it?

 

Comments or suggestions truly appreciated.

 

Check these people out,they may be able to help

http://www.motorvation.com/