dingy Posted October 24, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) I am working on getting another group buy together for Ignitech replacement TCI's. If interested PM me. $255 USD, includes priority shipping to USA address. $7.00 extra if using PayPal to cover my fees. I don't want to get personal marked payments as PayPal will get irritated with many of those coming in. I will also take checks or Money Orders. USB-COM cable to connect TCI to laptop is $20 extra, very handy if you want to adjust settings and fine tune to your setup. Replacement Ignition Control module for 1983-1993 Venture's. TCI will be configured for specific year of buyers bike through adapter cable & software setup. Ignitech TCI features: Timing advance can be programed based upon RPM's & vacuum. TCI has a rev limiter that can be set in 100 RPM increments. Dwell setting has four options: Short, Long Manual & Auto. This feature allows use of Coil over Plug (COP’s) without need for adding resistors in coil circuit. 2 input circuits, selections are: Off, Kill Switch, Blocking, Clutch Master, Clutch Master inverse input, Start Limiter & retard settings. Setting to disable ignition when first starting from 0~40 revs, helps clear cylinders out. Timing advance is fully controllable based on RPM and vacuum. The Ignitech TCI module has two power outputs that can be set to trigger at programmable RPM & vacuum (MAP) settings. Last picture is of the settings screen for this option attached. In the screen shot the 1st power out is set to special. There is a truth table with 12 boxes in it, RPM's at top which can be set in 100 rpm increments and MAP (TPS) sensor readings on left side. As I checked blocks in screen, this output would have 12 volts on it when RPM is below 4000 and MAP is below 75%, also when RPM is between 4000 & 12,500 and MAP is below 75%, also when RPM is above 14000 and MAP is below 75%, then one other point when RPM is between 4000 and 12,500 and MAP is above 90%. These are all just random numbers that serve really no purpose other than to illustrate what TCI can do. Fuel pump relay output can be selected as one of the two power outputs. Two year warranty by manufacturer. Screen shots of software attached. First picture is of kit contents. Included in kit: Ignitech TCI Adapter cable that allows TCI to be Plug & Play replacement for existing TCI One bar MAP sensor, replaces one on bike, the stock unit has been known to have failed. High temperature Velco for mounting TCI & MAP Sensor. Alcohol pads for cleaning Velcro mount areas. Dielectric grease for electrical connectors. 15 wire zip ties Additional pins for Ignitech harness for use in adding optional features. CD with software for customizing the Ignitech programming. 6 foot USB to TCI adapter cable, interfaces with windows based computer for customized programing. This is only needed if buyer wants to work with programming TCI when hooked up to a computer. $20 additional. TCI will be programed for year & model of 1983-193 Venture. Installation procedure is to unhook the 6 pin & 8 pin from stock TCI, the supplied adapter cable connects to the 6 & 8 pin connectors on bike. The MAP sensor will be shipped hooked up to adapter cable. Supplied vacuum cable is connected to the existing vacuum port, which is connected to #2 carb on left side of motor generally. Stock vacuum sensor can remain in place on bike, but is not used. TCI & MAP sensor are mounted using velcro to available location on bike. Fully sealed unit, all electronics are epoxy encapsulated. Package will be shipped USPS priority mail, insured & will require a signature upon receipt. Priority USA shipping included in price. PM me for other locations. Gary Edited December 3, 2013 by dingy Added PayPal fee I missed in post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankd Posted October 25, 2013 Share #2 Posted October 25, 2013 Setting to disable ignition when first starting from 0~40 revs, helps clear cylinders out. That'd probably also help with hot starts. It'd let the engine start spinning and build up speed before the spark started and then it wouldn't kick back as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix rider Posted November 11, 2013 Share #3 Posted November 11, 2013 I am working on getting another group buy together for Ignitech replacement TCI's. If interested PM me. $255 USD, includes priority shipping to USA address. I will discount cost for prepaid orders $15. I may be getting a smaller MAP sensor with this group. I have a unit from my supplier that I haven't tried yet, but it is half the size of previous units and half the size. USB-COM cable to connect TCI to laptop is $20 extra, very handy if you want to adjust settings and fine tune to your setup. Replacement Ignition Control module for 1983-1993 Venture's. TCI will be configured for specific year of buyers bike through adapter cable & software setup. Ignitech TCI features: Timing advance can be programed based upon RPM's & vacuum. TCI has a rev limiter that can be set in 100 RPM increments. Dwell setting has four options: Short, Long Manual & Auto. This feature allows use of Coil over Plug (COP’s) without need for adding resistors in coil circuit. 2 input circuits, selections are: Off, Kill Switch, Blocking, Clutch Master, Clutch Master inverse input, Start Limiter & retard settings. Setting to disable ignition when first starting from 0~40 revs, helps clear cylinders out. Timing advance is fully controllable based on RPM and vacuum. The Ignitech TCI module has two power outputs that can be set to trigger at programmable RPM & vacuum (MAP) settings. Last picture is of the settings screen for this option attached. In the screen shot the 1st power out is set to special. There is a truth table with 12 boxes in it, RPM's at top which can be set in 100 rpm increments and MAP (TPS) sensor readings on left side. As I checked blocks in screen, this output would have 12 volts on it when RPM is below 4000 and MAP is below 75%, also when RPM is between 4000 & 12,500 and MAP is below 75%, also when RPM is above 14000 and MAP is below 75%, then one other point when RPM is between 4000 and 12,500 and MAP is above 90%. These are all just random numbers that serve really no purpose other than to illustrate what TCI can do. Fuel pump relay output can be selected as one of the two power outputs. Two year warranty by manufacturer. Screen shots of software attached. First picture is of kit contents. Included in kit: Ignitech TCI Adapter cable that allows TCI to be Plug & Play replacement for existing TCI One bar MAP sensor, replaces one on bike, the stock unit has been known to have failed. High temperature Velco for mounting TCI & MAP Sensor. Alcohol pads for cleaning Velcro mount areas. Dielectric grease for electrical connectors. 15 wire zip ties Additional pins for Ignitech harness for use in adding optional features. CD with software for customizing the Ignitech programming. 6 foot USB to TCI adapter cable, interfaces with windows based computer for customized programing. This is only needed if buyer wants to work with programming TCI when hooked up to a computer. $20 additional. TCI will be programed for year & model of 1983-193 Venture. Installation procedure is to unhook the 6 pin & 8 pin from stock TCI, the supplied adapter cable connects to the 6 & 8 pin connectors on bike. The MAP sensor will be shipped hooked up to adapter cable. Supplied vacuum cable is connected to the existing vacuum port, which is connected to #2 carb on left side of motor generally. Stock vacuum sensor can remain in place on bike, but is not used. TCI & MAP sensor are mounted using velcro to available location on bike. Fully sealed unit, all electronics are epoxy encapsulated. Package will be shipped USPS priority mail, insured & will require a signature upon receipt. Priority USA shipping included in price. PM me for other locations. Gary I am new to this site so not really sure I how to respond. I have an 83. Need new TCI and am interested. Bike has rebuilt 85 carbs. Don't know if that makes a difference in mapping...thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix rider Posted November 11, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 11, 2013 I may be being redundant here.. sorry I am interested in a new TCI for my 83. The one I bought on Ebay still misfires on #3. So I am looking "new". The bike just had 85 carbs rejetted and installed so I don't know if that makes a difference on the mapping..thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted November 11, 2013 I will try to get them ordered 1st week of December. With the 85 I would think you would be having problems with the bike if it still has an 83 TCI in it. The 83's with original carbs pulled vacuum from above the throttle plate on #2 carb. 83 was only year to have this port, other than California bikes for smog system. The 84-93 bikes get vacuum from below the throttle plates. These 2 sources of vacuum have an opposite pressure curve. The vacuum is supposed to advance timing when bike is under load via the boost sensor. What yours is probably doing is not advancing timing at all due to load, which will not allow it to perform to motors ability. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix rider Posted November 17, 2013 Share #6 Posted November 17, 2013 I am working on getting another group buy together for Ignitech replacement TCI's. If interested PM me. $255 USD, includes priority shipping to USA address. I will discount cost for prepaid orders $15. I may be getting a smaller MAP sensor with this group. I have a unit from my supplier that I haven't tried yet, but it is half the size of previous units and half the size. USB-COM cable to connect TCI to laptop is $20 extra, very handy if you want to adjust settings and fine tune to your setup. Replacement Ignition Control module for 1983-1993 Venture's. TCI will be configured for specific year of buyers bike through adapter cable & software setup. Ignitech TCI features: Timing advance can be programed based upon RPM's & vacuum. TCI has a rev limiter that can be set in 100 RPM increments. Dwell setting has four options: Short, Long Manual & Auto. This feature allows use of Coil over Plug (COP’s) without need for adding resistors in coil circuit. 2 input circuits, selections are: Off, Kill Switch, Blocking, Clutch Master, Clutch Master inverse input, Start Limiter & retard settings. Setting to disable ignition when first starting from 0~40 revs, helps clear cylinders out. Timing advance is fully controllable based on RPM and vacuum. The Ignitech TCI module has two power outputs that can be set to trigger at programmable RPM & vacuum (MAP) settings. Last picture is of the settings screen for this option attached. In the screen shot the 1st power out is set to special. There is a truth table with 12 boxes in it, RPM's at top which can be set in 100 rpm increments and MAP (TPS) sensor readings on left side. As I checked blocks in screen, this output would have 12 volts on it when RPM is below 4000 and MAP is below 75%, also when RPM is between 4000 & 12,500 and MAP is below 75%, also when RPM is above 14000 and MAP is below 75%, then one other point when RPM is between 4000 and 12,500 and MAP is above 90%. These are all just random numbers that serve really no purpose other than to illustrate what TCI can do. Fuel pump relay output can be selected as one of the two power outputs. Two year warranty by manufacturer. Screen shots of software attached. First picture is of kit contents. Included in kit: Ignitech TCI Adapter cable that allows TCI to be Plug & Play replacement for existing TCI One bar MAP sensor, replaces one on bike, the stock unit has been known to have failed. High temperature Velco for mounting TCI & MAP Sensor. Alcohol pads for cleaning Velcro mount areas. Dielectric grease for electrical connectors. 15 wire zip ties Additional pins for Ignitech harness for use in adding optional features. CD with software for customizing the Ignitech programming. 6 foot USB to TCI adapter cable, interfaces with windows based computer for customized programing. This is only needed if buyer wants to work with programming TCI when hooked up to a computer. $20 additional. TCI will be programed for year & model of 1983-193 Venture. Installation procedure is to unhook the 6 pin & 8 pin from stock TCI, the supplied adapter cable connects to the 6 & 8 pin connectors on bike. The MAP sensor will be shipped hooked up to adapter cable. Supplied vacuum cable is connected to the existing vacuum port, which is connected to #2 carb on left side of motor generally. Stock vacuum sensor can remain in place on bike, but is not used. TCI & MAP sensor are mounted using velcro to available location on bike. Fully sealed unit, all electronics are epoxy encapsulated. Package will be shipped USPS priority mail, insured & will require a signature upon receipt. Priority USA shipping included in price. PM me for other locations. Gary Thanx for the response Gary. I have a 1983 and am interested on paying you right up front. How do I go about that? I want the USB cable. I am assuming that I would be paying $260 as I want to pay in advance and I want the cable. Need to know how to pay you...thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted November 20, 2013 I am going to get TCI's ordered about 1st of December. PM me if interested. Also, I missed $7.00 extra if using PayPal to cover my fees. I don't want to get personal marked payments as PayPal will get irritated with many of those coming in. I will also take checks or Money Orders. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted December 11, 2013 TCI's were ordered December 1st, have all the other stuff here already. Don't have a ship date from Ignitech as usual though, they always come through. Still have several not spoken for. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted December 15, 2013 TCI's have shipped from Ignitech, I will have them Monday or Tuesday (12/16/13 or 12/17-13). Still have available TCI's. If interested, PM me. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozlander Posted April 3, 2014 Share #10 Posted April 3, 2014 Gary, Is 121107c_tcip4A_v88 the latest program? And what is the latest part number for the TCI? I would buy a new one if I thought they had fixed the IAP glitch. Merlyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted April 3, 2014 Current software version is 131203a_tcip4A_v88.exe Model name is TCIP4 - 4 channel Other than the 2nd group I bought in January 2012, I have not had a single complaint. I have sold 66 TCI's after that 2nd group purchase. I personally think it is fixed. I am running a TCI from the 2nd group with later software in it and have not had the hesitation problem in 2 years. I have 4 TCI's left right now. It's spring time and they are starting to sell again, sold 4 in the last week, none since February before that. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozlander Posted April 3, 2014 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Do you think the 131203a_tcip4A_v88.exe is what fixed it? Where can I get a copy? Merlyn Edited April 3, 2014 by Ozlander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpuc Posted April 3, 2014 Share #13 Posted April 3, 2014 I will try to get them ordered 1st week of December. With the 85 I would think you would be having problems with the bike if it still has an 83 TCI in it. The 83's with original carbs pulled vacuum from above the throttle plate on #2 carb. 83 was only year to have this port, other than California bikes for smog system. The 84-93 bikes get vacuum from below the throttle plates. These 2 sources of vacuum have an opposite pressure curve. The vacuum is supposed to advance timing when bike is under load via the boost sensor. What yours is probably doing is not advancing timing at all due to load, which will not allow it to perform to motors ability. Gary Gary,, its folks like you (and others) who are willing to share this kind of info that helps make VR what it is!! This whole thread is FULL of really cool stuff and GREAT info!!! THANK YOU GARY (and to all you other gear heads who share info)! Puc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted April 4, 2014 Share #14 Posted April 4, 2014 Got a couple of questions. If I got one for my 83, and maybe later put a later model engine and carbs, would I have to reprogram the unit? Also, have you had any feedback on any gas mileage changes, better or worse, on those that have gone with the Ignitech? Thanks, RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted April 4, 2014 Got a couple of questions. If I got one for my 83, and maybe later put a later model engine and carbs, would I have to reprogram the unit? Also, have you had any feedback on any gas mileage changes, better or worse, on those that have gone with the Ignitech? Thanks, RandyA 83-89 Ignitech TCI's are the same, I supply a plug that will block of the port on the carbs for an 83 bike. The vacuum is then attached to the #2 intake port where the sync hookup is done. I do not have any feedback other than Twigg said he experienced a little lower mileage on one of his long distance runs I believe. This was one of the ones from the 2nd group, that was experiencing the very rare but disconcerting dropouts for about a second at low RPM's. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted April 4, 2014 Share #16 Posted April 4, 2014 83-89 Ignitech TCI's are the same, I supply a plug that will block of the port on the carbs for an 83 bike. The vacuum is then attached to the #2 intake port where the sync hookup is done. I do not have any feedback other than Twigg said he experienced a little lower mileage on one of his long distance runs I believe. This was one of the ones from the 2nd group, that was experiencing the very rare but disconcerting dropouts for about a second at low RPM's. Gary Gary, as you know I had an Ignitech on my '90 and I recovered the Ignitech after the wreck. I don't plan to install the '90s Ignitech into the '91, because I am not experiencing the strange behaviors of the '90 OEM TCI that caused me to change to the Ignitech. I am going to use the '90 OEM TCI as a spare for the '91. Will we be able to utilize the Ignitech that was originally intended for use on the '90 on my '83? Or is the Ignitech I have only workable on '90-'93 model Ventures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Gary, as you know I had an Ignitech on my '90 and I recovered the Ignitech after the wreck. I don't plan to install the '90s Ignitech into the '91, because I am not experiencing the strange behaviors of the '90 OEM TCI that caused me to change to the Ignitech. I am going to use the '90 OEM TCI as a spare for the '91. Will we be able to utilize the Ignitech that was originally intended for use on the '90 on my '83? Or is the Ignitech I have only workable on '90-'93 model Ventures? To move one from an 83-89 bike to a 90-93 bike requires a different adapter cable and the TCI to be reprogrammed. I have extra adapter cables & MAP sensors I can get you. Difference in cables is due to change from single to 4 pickup coils. Reprogramming TCI can be done via a USB-Com cable. If you don't have the cable I will reprogram tci or get you part # of cable I furnish atTigerdirect.com. The cable is not readily avaliable at radio shack or best buy stores. Gary Edited April 4, 2014 by dingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted April 4, 2014 Share #18 Posted April 4, 2014 To move one from an 83-89 bike to a 90-93 bike requires a different adapter cable and the TCI to be reprogrammed. I have extra adapter cables & MAP sensors I can get you Difference in cables is due to change from single to 4 pickup coils. Reprogramming TCI can be done via a USB-Com cable. If you don't have the cable i will reprogramtci or get you part # of cable I furnish atTigerdirect.com. The cale is not readily avaliable at radio shack or best buy stores. Gary Thanks, Gary. Soon I will be getting a new harness and a MAP sensor from you for the '83. As for the reprogramming, I have the USB cable required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggletooth Posted April 4, 2014 Share #19 Posted April 4, 2014 I'm kind of a late comer to the Ingitech upgrade. Was happy with my reconditioned TCI I've had in for several years with a couple of spare units, one them a NOS unit. Last year i was in a position where it it looked like i was going to let the bike go so of course i sold off my spare parts. Last month i had a minor accident and went down. I took a beating but the bike survived well. Of course a few days later it started the tach drop off and could not Rev over 2,500 rpms. I knew what the problem was. Lil trouble shooting with Dingy and he had an Ingitech upgrade kit in the mail to me in short order. So i got the Kit installed today in pretty much a roadside repair style. Gary's included directions were spot on and made it slick to do and his included kit was everything needed. Perfect. Back to running and another upgrade on the bike. Not a bad project for a limerock driveway on a windy clammy day. Gary, thanks for pulling all this together and setting up these units. Outstanding service. Mike From my Droid wherever I may happen to be at any given moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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