sjag18 Posted September 23, 2013 #1 Posted September 23, 2013 Hi, I have a 2000 Venture with a recovered factory seat. I'm looking at putting a new seat on it and have looked at the Mustang, Corbin and even the newer style OEM factory pillow style of the newer Ventures. The Mustang and Corbin are priced about the same and the OEM is about twice as much (ouch!) I want to upgrade to a more comfortable seat. I know the newer pillow top is comfortable, but I don't know how the Mustang and Corbin compare. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for the help! Steve
Sylvester Posted September 23, 2013 #2 Posted September 23, 2013 Find an upholsterer that will strip the seat cover and install a gel pad underneath. I did this way back in 2003 with a company called "Butt Buffer" and still use it today.
JerryT Posted September 23, 2013 #3 Posted September 23, 2013 Lots of information out there on seats. May depend on what type of riding you do. Stock seats are not to bad for short rides. I had a pillow top on mine which I really liked the first three years. After that it seemed like it changed and wasn't as comfortable after 300 or 400 miles a day. In Aug this year I finally went to a Day-Long and although I only have about 6000 miles on it, so far I'm very happy with it. They are built for long distance comfort, and I believe well worth the money.
sendaro_99 Posted September 24, 2013 #4 Posted September 24, 2013 Check out what Rick can go for you thru this site. had him do mine and it's better than a Corbin or mustang seat:backinmyday:
IronMike Posted September 24, 2013 #5 Posted September 24, 2013 Back in the day I worked in a trim shop, I have trim shops around here but in doing some really Custom work on my Roadstar no one could help me make a custom Speaker enclosure for a HD trunk but June's Upholstery in Michigan. I measured wrong and sold the first set to an HD guy seconds after I noticed. And June sent me a second set in 3 days. This guy is freaking fantastic,!!!! If I had your problem, I would call him and send him my seats! He's 350 miles from me and they ONLY person I trust to do that kind of work. http://stores.ebay.com/JUNES-UPHOLSTERY He's on the net, e bay, and FB. He posts pics of his work on FB all the time LOTS of satisfied seat people. They guy seems to do the work because he ADORES it! Not just for the money! He's really reasonable on prices!
Barrycuda Posted September 24, 2013 #6 Posted September 24, 2013 Back in the day I worked in a trim shop, I have trim shops around here but in doing some really Custom work on my Roadstar no one could help me make a custom Speaker enclosure for a HD trunk but June's Upholstery in Michigan. I measured wrong and sold the first set to an HD guy seconds after I noticed. And June sent me a second set in 3 days. This guy is freaking fantastic,!!!! If I had your problem, I would call him and send him my seats! He's 350 miles from me and they ONLY person I trust to do that kind of work. http://stores.ebay.com/JUNES-UPHOLSTERY He's on the net, e bay, and FB. He posts pics of his work on FB all the time LOTS of satisfied seat people. They guy seems to do the work because he ADORES it! Not just for the money! He's really reasonable on prices! I wished I worked at a trim shop. Mike you're a real lucky guy... BTW, I believe it is called BUTT BUTLER, not buffer... And he happens to do a great job as well. Nice as can be.
Guest Posted September 24, 2013 #7 Posted September 24, 2013 Hi, I have a 2000 Venture with a recovered factory seat. I'm looking at putting a new seat on it and have looked at the Mustang, Corbin and even the newer style OEM factory pillow style of the newer Ventures. The Mustang and Corbin are priced about the same and the OEM is about twice as much (ouch!) I want to upgrade to a more comfortable seat. I know the newer pillow top is comfortable, but I don't know how the Mustang and Corbin compare. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for the help! Steve Look into Hartco seats. I have had mine now for about 10 years and its still comfy. Im a big guy and the seat is deep dished and wide and the passenger seat is wider then stock as well. The rider backrest is also pretty large and comfy. http://hartcoseats.com/YAMAHA/55/Yamaha-Royal-Star-Venture/Yamaha-Royal-Star-Venture/982.html
RedRider Posted September 24, 2013 #8 Posted September 24, 2013 What kind of riding do you do? 100 mile per day putting around to the local DQs? 200-300 mile runs for lunch? All day 500+ mile days to get somewhere? The answer to these questions are needed to give a good answer. RR
Condor Posted September 24, 2013 #9 Posted September 24, 2013 Hi, I have a 2000 Venture with a recovered factory seat. I'm looking at putting a new seat on it and have looked at the Mustang, Corbin and even the newer style OEM factory pillow style of the newer Ventures. The Mustang and Corbin are priced about the same and the OEM is about twice as much (ouch!) I want to upgrade to a more comfortable seat. I know the newer pillow top is comfortable, but I don't know how the Mustang and Corbin compare. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for the help! Steve The pillow tops don't fit everyone so don't make that mistake. I know there'll be a lot of comments from riders how they think they're great, but not me, and I have the monkey butt scars to prove it. I've replaced the pillows on both of my 2ndGens with Corbins and they made a world of difference. I found one complete set on Craigslist and the other seat only on eBay. Both are like new at less than 1/2 of new price. So look around and be picky....
sjag18 Posted September 24, 2013 Author #10 Posted September 24, 2013 Thanks for all the replies and suggestions! I usually ride locally, but want the option of riding the 200-300 mile days. My current seat isn't great with even the local stuff. Thanks again.
beltfed50 Posted September 24, 2013 #11 Posted September 24, 2013 Once again, I have to recommend Diamond Custom for a seat to replace the stock seats. I tried Corbin and my wife has an Ultimate seat for her bike, neither of which even comes close to the seats I'm riding on. The pillow top is NOT comfortable by ANY stretch of the imagination. After 20-30 minutes it was like sitting on a board...no, that would be doing a disservice to the board. Seat needs to be firm enough to provide support, and shaped correctly so you can sit in it.
OLDYELR Posted September 24, 2013 #12 Posted September 24, 2013 I had Rick Butler do his "Butt Butler Seat Mod" on my bike last year, '04 Midnight Venture. Did a 2000 mile trip in 5 days just after I got it back. It was great! Just did a 312 mile ride yesterday and could have ridden another 2-300 with no problem. The best part is that he is a member and charges only $40 for driver seat. Think it's $70 for both driver & passenger? You can find him and pictures of his work in the classifides under supporting vendors, Rick Butler. Check him out!
midnightrider1300 Posted September 24, 2013 #13 Posted September 24, 2013 think i'm gonna order me this http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/saddlemen-saddlegel-pads?utm_source=product&kwd=&gclid=CICHtaKe5LkCFadj7AodDz4AyA & do my seat myself.... wifes dad does upholster so I can get him to help...think if i cut some foam away add the gel and some memory foam it'll do the job....
LilBeaver Posted September 24, 2013 #14 Posted September 24, 2013 Once again, I have to recommend Diamond Custom for a seat to replace the stock seats. I tried Corbin and my wife has an Ultimate seat for her bike, neither of which even comes close to the seats I'm riding on. The pillow top is NOT comfortable by ANY stretch of the imagination. After 20-30 minutes it was like sitting on a board...no, that would be doing a disservice to the board. Seat needs to be firm enough to provide support, and shaped correctly so you can sit in it. As mentioned by others, different rears fit different seats very differently. For YOU the stock seat might not be comfortable. I personally find the stock pillow top to be quite comfortable. I am NOT a big guy though. before I had my seat redone by Rick Butler, I was able to do about 800-1000 miles in a day before starting to feel the tailbone burn. When I got on for a second or third day, the distance decreased by about 200 miles before feeling the burn again. Rick Butler cut in the tailbone relief and replaced the old and worn out padding on my seat and I subsequently rode ~4k in 6 days with no pain or discomfort from the pillow top. I now have a Corbin (that I cannot wait to get rid of) that is on my bike while my pillow top is being recovered (the fabric tore and I found a used Corbin here for a good price). For me, the Corbin simply does not work. My rear does not have enough padding and is simply not shaped properly to match the Corbin's shape. The Corbin is firm and shaped for someone that is a bit bigger framed than I am. --- So to the O.P. If you are finding short trips uncomfortable on your pillow top, then yes, there is no way a long day would be comfortable on your pillow top. My experience is limited to the Corbin, Stock pillow top and a modified pillow top.
jakester Posted September 24, 2013 #15 Posted September 24, 2013 I picked up a new to me bike in May, It came with a Leatherman Road sofa with a utopia back rest. So far so good, most comfy seat to date for me. As mentioned before....each person has a unique fit for their seat and style. Pick wisely. Bill
beltfed50 Posted September 24, 2013 #16 Posted September 24, 2013 As mentioned by others, different rears fit different seats very differently. For YOU the stock seat might not be comfortable. Yeah, that...and whether it's true, or just another dose of smoke, Diamond's propaganda is that they make their seats based on the "dimensions" of the rider. Either way, the stock seat kept me sitting on the tank with the twins under duress and had my butt begging for relief. The replacement doesn't. If I had to spend 700 miles a day on the original seat I'd be in tears.
Rick Haywood Posted September 24, 2013 #17 Posted September 24, 2013 Once again, I have to recommend Diamond Custom for a seat to replace the stock seats. I tried Corbin and my wife has an Ultimate seat for her bike, neither of which even comes close to the seats I'm riding on. The pillow top is NOT comfortable by ANY stretch of the imagination. After 20-30 minutes it was like sitting on a board...no, that would be doing a disservice to the board. Seat needs to be firm enough to provide support, and shaped correctly so you can sit in it. If I was going with a new seat I wouldn't call anyone but Diamond seats Most of yoyr problem is you have to get the butt use to setting in the seat I ride a 200 MM with a seat that has the butler mod and I can ride 600 miles a day without to much problem but I ride about 30, 000 miles a year so my rearend is accustomed to setting in the saddle. Good luck on your seat choice
awsmsrv Posted September 24, 2013 #18 Posted September 24, 2013 As mentioned by others, different rears fit different seats very differently. For YOU the stock seat might not be comfortable. I personally find the stock pillow top to be quite comfortable. I am NOT a big guy though. Same story here. I'm only about 155 & the stock pillow seat, to me, is absolutely wonderful. I've gone 850 miles & felt I could still have gone further with no problems. My caboose doesn't have much of its own padding, so, the pillow seat is perfect. Every caboose is different.
dacheedah Posted September 24, 2013 #19 Posted September 24, 2013 Find an upholsterer that will strip the seat cover and install a gel pad underneath. I did this way back in 2003 with a company called "Butt Buffer" and still use it today. not hard to do yourself, get a gel pad and some memory foam , cut them in and restaple the seat with stainless steel staples and ride on. . . or send it to Butler
Barrycuda Posted September 24, 2013 #20 Posted September 24, 2013 I have had my OEM pillow top sent to Rick a few months after I started riding the RSV. I am fairly durable in the saddle, however this is a step further. I have been comfortable riding 7-8-900 miles easily with no soreness. But like the others have said, every backside is different...
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