Yahoo!!!

[Wizard765]

Thank you Skydoc_17 (Earl):

 

I have had a gremlin for awhile now. When I park the bike it smells like gas for a long time and as a result my friend has been stuck outside for a few weeks now and is missing being in the house. Anyhow Earl gave me some instructions on cleaning the carbs while still in the bike.. Only took an hour or so including taking off a few parts to get to them.. BUT

 

IT WORKED!!!!!

This was way less expensive and much easier than rebuilding the carbs or even having to take them out..

 

Thanks again Earl..

 

What I did was take off a few side covers so that I could see the carbs clearly and there are 4 rubber hoses which are plugged into drains on the carbs. I loosened the small philips screws and let them drain into a metal can. Then took some seafoam spray and stuck the red nozzle extension up the hose while holding a shop rag tight around the junction of the rubber hose and the red nozzle. Sprayed about 4 seconds into the hose. and then let it drain. Did this on each carb then did it again on each carb and then again. About 5 or 6 times on each carb. After this I started the bike and waited for the gas smell. Nothing.. Put it all back together and started it again and let it run for awhile. She is now parked inside again..

 

[Phoneman1981]

Glad it worked for you. Thanks for sharing.

[Evan]

Your good note triggers two thoughts Wayne. One is that good feeling when you are able to successfully fix something like your carb problem yourself. The other is how good it is to have people like Earle on the site who are so will to share their valuable experience and info with guys like us.

[Marcarl]

Does that mean we get to see more of you again?

[BradT]

Glad it worked but did you get the dirt out or just dislodge it ?

 

Hope you got it.

 

Brad

[BradT]

Does that mean we get to see more of you again?

 

Maybe if you just invited us some of us would show up. Pretty simple to do you know.

 

Brad

[skydoc_17]

Thank You ALL for the kind words! I havn't been on the sit as much as I have been in the past due to my "Day Job" work schedule, but things have slowed a bit, and I was very happy to be able to help Wayne with his Carb. issue. Here is a copy of a write up I did a few years ago. In my opinion, it's very hard to justify a $600.00 to $800.00 total Carb. Rebuild on a First Gen. Motorcycle. It's not that they aren't worth it, it's just that the average First Gen. is only worth about $1800.00 to $2500.00. (No insult intended to anyone that has one of those "just off the show room floor" low miles bikes) This "on the bike" cleaning won't replace worn out parts, but it will clean up the inside of the float bowls, and could get your bike running well enough to allow you to get some seafoam running thru the fuel system.

 

 

Cleaning First Gen. Carbs. On The Bike!

 

 

 

 

I use this cleaning method to unstick a float needle that is causing the gas tank to drain when the bike is parked, or for a Carb. That is passing raw gas out of the overflow tube when the bike is running. This on bike cleaning DOES NOT address the issue of a Carb. Set needing a complete rebuild, (off the bike) and does not address the issue of AIR PASSAGES being blocked, and causing poor performance. These two issues require the Carbs. be removed from the bike.

 

 

 

 

With the bike on the center stand, and the engine off, I select the first Carb. I want to clean. You will be looking for the Black Plastic Carb. Drain Tube, and the screw that opens that drain. (Phillips Head Screw) You will need a small coffee can, or a coke can with the top cut off, (NO plastic containers) to catch the gas that will come out when you open the drain screw. Allow all of the gas to drain from the Carb. and have a look in the can for “floaters”. (Solid particles) With a new can of Carb. Cleaner, insert the red straw in the end of the drain tube. I wrap the junction of the red straw, and the drain tube with a small piece of shop towel to slow the blow by. Press the button on the top of the can of Carb. Cleaner, and count to 3. Remove the red straw and let the cleaner fluid run into the coffee can. Move to the next Carb. and repeat. When you do Carb. #4, start over again, and do them again. I use up one can of Carb. Cleaner on the four Carbs. When the can of Carb. Cleaner is gone, retighten all four drain tube screws,

 

 

(CAUTION DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE DRAIN SCREWS) Turn on the ignition switch, (do not start bike) listen for the fuel pump to fill the Carb. Bowles and stop pumping, check the drain tubes and the overflow tubes (down in front of rear tire) for fuel leakage, move the can with the Carb. Cleaner/Gas mixture away from the bike, (or better yet, roll the bike out of the garage) and start the bike. (It may take a few short bursts on the starter motor, and you may need to choke it as well) Go for a ride and “blow the cobwebs out” (my personal FAV part) if this doesn’t solve your problem, then a “Carbs. Off Rebuild” may be in order. On a side note, I run 3 ounces of Seafoam in every tank of gas I put in my 87’and 89’VR because of the negative effects of the Ethanol in the fuel these days. Because of my shop here in South Central PA. I buy OEM parts direct from Yamaha, and share my discount with the VR.ORG members. It would be my pleasure to help you with any project you have in mind for your First Gen. VR.

 

 

Earl (skydoc_17)

[Marcarl]

Maybe if you just invited us some of us would show up. Pretty simple to do you know.

 

Brad

OK so you're invited,, now when are you going to show up?